Bogut-Watch

by **Jugs** on Fri Oct 21, 2005 5:25 pm

But this is the NBA, not NBA Live

by **Fresh8** on Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:12 pm

Reports have confirmed that Bogut is claiming he will be coming off the bench at the start of the season with Dan Gadzurich starting.

by **J@3** on Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:48 pm

Yeah there's a huge thread about it at RealGM. I don't think it's a good move, but hopefully it won't be long term.

by **Matt** on Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:08 pm

i think it's a good idea until he learns the ropes.

by **Jugs** on Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:27 pm

I still like the idea of both Gadzuric and Bogut starting and Joe Smith to come off the bench (Y)

by **air gordon** on Sun Oct 23, 2005 6:35 am

this was the 1st game i got to see of him since the Ncaa's: he looked ok against the small frontcourt of the bulls

executed a nice backdoor pass that lead to a layup. i was a disappointed w/his offense- all his shots were gimme types- right by the basket over smaller players but he busted a few of them

on defense, he affected a lot of shots in the paint. should they start together- gadzu & him should cause a lot of problems

as far as his athleticism- like a young vlade divac. in other words mobile but doesn't get a lot of space between him and the floor when he jumps

by **J@3** on Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:48 am

Do you think he'd be better suited playing in the high post? Most of what I've read has suggested he makes the best of his passing abilities from up there. He has a 32" vertical, who knows why he doesn't use it. Hopefully it'll develop with experience or something.

by **air gordon** on Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:28 am

no clue- haven't seen enough.

what was his standing vertical??

by **J@3** on Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:39 am

29" standing vertical.

by **The Other Kevin** on Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:40 am

Yeah, 29 CMs. :roll:

by **J@3** on Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:57 am

I've come to the conclusion that 95% of your attempted jokes fail miserably.

by **The Other Kevin** on Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:00 am

But the other 5% rule. :roll:

by **Carmo** on Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:09 pm

no, the other 5% actually are jokes (not attempted ones) but they still suck

by **J@3** on Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:45 pm

Andrew played his last pre-season game with the Bucks today before the regular season begins. Matching up against Denver, he had 17 points (7/10 shooting), 7 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 steals. Probably his best numbers so far, and I don't expect him to do as well against Shaq. Although with Magloire in the team now, he might get lucky and match up on Haslem/Walker.

by **Laxation** on Thu Oct 27, 2005 4:36 pm

gonna be hard for bogut to get much time, now with gadzuric and magloire (both were rumoured to start ahead of him)

at least he showed some nice work with 17 pts 7 rbds against denver (tj ford good too with 10assists and 22 points

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by **J@3** on Thu Oct 27, 2005 4:38 pm

Gadzuric and Magloire won't start together... Stotts is saying it'll be Magloire and Smith, Harris is saying it'll be Magloire and Bogut so God knows what'll happen.

by **Fresh8** on Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:05 pm

Well, good luck to Andy for the rest of the season. Hope to see him starting by All-star break!

by **The X** on Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:20 pm

it looks like Bogut will be playing quite a bit of PF now....should be interesting to see how he handles it....

by **Scotty** on Sat Oct 29, 2005 3:32 pm

it looks like Bogut will be playing quite a bit of PF now....should be interesting to see how he handles it....

I think he'll fit perfectly into PF especially as he starts to pack on the muscle

YouTube · by **shadowgrin** on Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:29 am

The X wrote:t looks like Bogut will be playing quite a bit of PF now....should be interesting to see how he handles it....

Will Bogut have trouble playing in the PF slot? I'm a bit familiar with his game but I'm still wondering why some doubts are raised on his effectiveness at the 4 spot.

by **Fenix** on Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:45 am

shadowgrin wrote:I'm a bit familiar with his game but I'm still wondering why some doubts are raised on his effectiveness at the 4 spot.

Perhaps him being slow and unathletic has something to do with it :lol:

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by **J@3** on Sun Oct 30, 2005 1:05 am

His athletisism results from the pre-draft combine were better than Emeka Okafor :roll:

if Bogut was black his athletisism would never be mentioned.

As far as doubts on Bogut's ability to play PF, that's where he played at the Olympics for a large part.

by **Fenix** on Sun Oct 30, 2005 1:54 am

Jae wrote:His athletisism results from the pre-draft combine were better than Emeka Okafor if Bogut was black his athletisism would never be mentioned.

As far as doubts on Bogut's ability to play PF, that's where he played at the Olympics for a large part.

You don't know what you're talking about. Bogut does have a better vertical than Okafor, but Emeka is a much, much quicker jumper, which is what counts in the game of basketball. Plus, he had a terrible result on his lateral quickness test, which tells you that he'll have trouble guarding smaller, quicker players - or quicker players of his size. His lack of athleticism (vertically and horizontally) didn't show in the olympics, because the players he guarded were much less athletic than their NBA counterparts. Of course, you can say that he effectively guarded Duncan, but he isn't really an athletic specimen in his own right, is he? (Don't get me wrong - TD is still better than Bogut, especially in quickness&speed department.) Plus, I have a four-letter word for you: zone. That's why Bodiroga can play a guard in the Euroleague.

by **Fenix** on Sun Oct 30, 2005 6:23 pm

Bogut Will Be Reserve Tank For Bucks
30th October, 2005 - 12:05 am
Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel - The playoff-hopeful Milwaukee Bucks had history on their side when they decided last week to go into this season with veterans Jamaal Magloire and Joe Smith in the starting lineup and rookie Andrew Bogut coming in off the bench.

Coach Terry Stotts said that Smith, if healthy, would start at power forward with Magloire starting at center. Bogut, who started all eight exhibition games at center, will play a reserve role. The Bucks are hoping that starting a veteran lineup will be beneficial to them in their quest for a playoff spot.

In deciding not to start Bogut, the Bucks were mindful of the fact that dating back to 1986, only three of the 19 players who were selected No. 1 overall in the draft, led their teams into the playoffs in their first season. Of those 19 players, only eight led their teams into the playoffs in their second season.

"History shows that overall, No. 1 draft picks don't necessarily lead teams to playoffs," Stotts said. "As a matter of fact, it's quite the opposite."

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/37725/20051030/bogut_will_be_reserve_tank_for_bucks/

Aha!

by **J@3** on Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:10 pm

You don't know what you're talking about. Bogut does have a better vertical than Okafor, but Emeka is a much, much quicker jumper, which is what counts in the game of basketball. Plus, he had a terrible result on his lateral quickness test, which tells you that he'll have trouble guarding smaller, quicker players - or quicker players of his size.

Ah you're an idiot, lets continue.

Andrew Bogut Lane Agility: 12.06 seconds
Emeka Okafor Lane Agility: 12.32 seconds

So how much trouble does Okafor have guarding smaller, quicker players :roll:

His lack of athleticism (vertically)

Andrew Bogut Vertical Leap: 33 1/2"
Emeka Okafor Veritcal Leap: 34"

Jonathan Givony: Looking at your combine results…on first glance I actually thought you did fine. Your vertical leap is only a half an inch less than Emeka Okafor’s, and your lane agility time is much better.

Congratulations though on being another mindless drone that refuses to actually research and just pulls something random out of their ass based on a generalisation of someone they read in a Bill Simmons article.

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