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Postby Fresh8 on Sun Jul 17, 2005 6:51 pm

Good news for Bogut. At least there won't be any 'bust' chants against him soon! (Y) WHich I doubt he will veer get.. oh only every night he goes in single digits for scoring or something...
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Postby AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy on Sun Jul 17, 2005 8:24 pm

Andrew bounces back!

21 points
13 rebounds
5 assists
2 blocks
5/9 shooting
11/16 ft



Nice numbers. Although I don't take summer league boxscores for serious..
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Postby cyanide on Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:21 am

That's definitely a nice stat sheet. Although it's only a summer league game, I really do like how he's playing better than other prospects. The 5 assists is the eye-opener for me, something that would make Yinka Dare jealous.
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Postby AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy on Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:23 am

The 5 assists is the eye-opener for me, something that would make Yinka Dare jealous.


I think Dare had no more than 5 dimes in his entire career... :lol:
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Postby cyanide on Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:52 am

4 assists in his 4 year career, including zero in one year... just found out today that he died of a heart attack a while back. Didn't know that either :(
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Postby Jona on Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:35 am

cyanide wrote:4 assists in his 4 year career, including zero in one year... just found out today that he died of a heart attack a while back. Didn't know that either :(


That is like the only thing I knew about Yinka :P
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Postby J@3 on Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:53 am

cyanide wrote:That's definitely a nice stat sheet. Although it's only a summer league game, I really do like how he's playing better than other prospects. The 5 assists is the eye-opener for me, something that would make Yinka Dare jealous.


Well the boxscore said 1 assist but according to everyone the statisticians there can't count anything other then points and rebounds :lol:

So I looked for a review of the game, and the guy said Bogut had "at least" 5 assists.
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Postby LeBron17 on Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:04 am

Guys imagine Darko talkin like that (bla bla i am the best bla bla bla)
Before your professional career :lol:
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Postby Kemp on Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:37 pm

Nice numbers Bogut! Though, his defender is not the best his face yet. Wait until he face Shaq, Yao, Z and see what numbers he will put up.
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Postby J@3 on Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:58 pm

LeBron17 wrote:Guys imagine Darko talkin like that (bla bla i am the best bla bla bla)
Before your professional career :lol:


Bogut never said anything remotely like that.

Had another game today, here's a recap...

Andrew Bogut: Poor kid, he is surrounded by a pretty crappy team. The interesting thing of it all was the Rocket game and this game were two different beasts. The Rockets tried to beat on him, but today it was Bogut doing the beating. Physically, strength wise, the Raptors had no one that could match up with him. Bogut consistently moved players around the paint, manhandling them out of the block. He beat the **** out of Nate Doomekamp on several occasions. The Raptors couldn't get anything to happen inside with Bogut camped out there, so they did a smart thing. They moved the man he was guarding to the top of the key or free throw line, moving Bogut out of the paint. Bogut didn't look as comfortable in space as he did yesterday, and with his teammates sucking it up, he started to become frustrated when he wasn't in the middle able to mix it up as the Raptors started grabbing offensive rebounds. Not to mention the open man he left when he rotated down to help out on penetration. This led to a few frustration fouls on his part. The Raptors put a small man at center (6-9 230 Sharif Fajado) and he gave Bogut a few problems. As long as Bogut remained in contact with him, no problems. But on a few occasions, Bogut left him to cheat underneath, and Sharif used his quickness to slash inside and get position, which led to a few reaching fouls on Andrew. As the fouls started to mount (Bogut ended the game with 7) he got more tentative. He let a penetrating guard get to the rim once, and he stopped bodying players in the paint. Defensively, Bogut was more impressive last night.

Offensively, Bogut was better today. The Raptors decided that Bogut was not going to beat them today and often times surrounded him with three men even when he didn't have the ball, beating him around like a pinball. He hung in there though, dished out some punishment of his own, got to the offensive glass and set up his teammates well. He showed more aggressiveness in the post and took it to the rack, especially in the second half. He showed flashes of the post moves the Bucks raved about, hitting on a baby hook and schooling Fajado on a baseline move for a lay-up. Today he wasn't afraid to put the ball on the floor and take it to the lane. I would like to see him take it up stronger, as he still seems to be a little tentative and slow, allowing beaten players to get back into the mix. It happened a few times today where a guy got in behind him after he had beaten him and swatted the ball away. Once he set strong on the block though, there was little the Raptors could do to move him, and he showed more aggressiveness because of it. He still has yet to show is mid-range shot though. His 16 points, while not impressive stat wise, were pretty gosh darn good considering the way the team played today.


Triple teamed on and off the ball :? I guess that's what happens when you play with a shit team...

16 points (6/10 FG 4/8 FT)
11 rebounds (7 offensive)
Don't know about assists, no one listed them.
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Postby AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy on Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:35 am

Quote from NBAdraft.net:

"While sitting next to Ron Artest and Raptor's head coach Sam Mitchell, I overheard an interesting conversation. Andrew Bogut was at the free throw line when Ron said to Sam, "Is that one of the top picks?"

"Yeah," Sam replied, "number one."

"Number one?" a mildly surprised Artest exclaimed. A moment later, he goes, "Is he worth it?"

Sam smiled and said, "Don't know yet."

Good answer.

A short time later, Bogut picked the pocket of a Raptor's guard at half court, grabbed the rolling loose ball on the run, dribbled behind his back to avoid the oncoming guard, and finished the play off with a basket. If Bogut keeps making plays like that, Sam Mitchell will be able to answer his question very soon.
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Looks like Ron is really into the draft... :lol:
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Postby Indy on Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:54 am

Ron also didn't know Al Jefferson's last name :lol:
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Postby Kobe101 on Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:00 am

Didnt he just get ejected from a game?
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Postby Indy on Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:38 am

Kobe101 wrote:Didnt he just get ejected from a game?


Who?

EDIT: Yes, Bogut got thrown out of the game against Indiana today.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2110951

David Harrison ate him up today :wink:
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Postby j.23 on Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:31 pm

Bogut ejected from summer league game
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MINNEAPOLIS (AP) - Milwaukee Bucks center Andrew Bogut, the No. 1 pick in this year's NBA draft, was ejected from a summer league game on Monday after tangling with Indiana Pacers center John Edwards.

Edwards, who was also ejected, got caught up with Bogut underneath the basket and inadvertently shoved him to the ground as he headed back up court.
Bogut bounced off the floor and went after Edwards, but the two were separated by teammates before they made any contact.

After deliberating for a few minutes, the officials decided to eject both players rather than issue technical fouls, eliciting heavy complaints from both coaching staffs.

"It was a pretty quick hook," Bogut said after the game. "I needed a rest anyway."

Edwards said the initial contact was not intentional.

"I don't think it was merited," he said of the ejection.

It was a frustrating day for Bogut, who was 1-for-7 with six points and four fouls in 26 minutes when he was ejected. He was also dominated on the defensive end by Pacers center David Harrison, who scored 14 points in the first half with Bogut guarding him.

The Bucks beat the Pacers 79-72 for their first summer league win after three losses. Chris Owens had 16 points and Madison native Reece Gaines added 14 to lead Milwaukee.

Jimmie Hunter scored 17 points and Harrison 16 for Indiana.



:) bahahaa
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Postby Flasher on Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:36 pm

IndyPacers67 wrote:
Kobe101 wrote:Didnt he just get ejected from a game?


Who?

EDIT: Yes, Bogut got thrown out of the game against Indiana today.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2110951

David Harrison ate him up today :wink:

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Postby J@3 on Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:21 pm

Lol yep got himself ejected and had a fairly ordinary game. I read a post the other day at a Bucks forum that the most impressive part of Bogut's play has been the ability to withstand the temptation to throw Reece Gaines into a wall :lol:

Anyways I'm not too concerned, Harrison's a fat shit who'd give most players trouble... not surprised he got all of those points in 14 minutes either, since he seems to give up after that time. Bogut will be ok, his offense is fine but his D needs work.
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Postby Fresh8 on Tue Jul 19, 2005 6:53 pm

lmao @ Ron Ron up there

And yes, Bogut got ejected... This is ok, shows he's not gonna get pushed around I guess! (Y)
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Postby The X on Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:11 pm

yep, I'm not concerned either....all going to form....I bet Longley never had that sort of fire in his belly :lol:

edit: and yeah, I fully agree with Jae, Bogut's post D is very ordinary....I remember that Greek lard arse scoring on him at will at Athens....he'll probably need lots of help from Joe Smith and Dan Gadzuric against a good portion of the league's big men....
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Postby AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy on Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:28 am

I remember that Greek lard arse scoring on him at will at Athens....


Greek with a large butt? In the National Team? Who? :?:
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Postby maes on Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:04 am

His game against Harrison wasn't even ordinary. He was 0-4 in the 1st half, his 3 points coming from free throws. Harrison shut him down in a major way.

Which is odd because Harrison doesn't have much in skills yet, i think wasn't he even a football player? Harrison is mainly huge and in the learning stage right now.

If big players give Bogut trouble, that's going to be an issue in the regular season.
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Postby J@3 on Wed Jul 20, 2005 3:01 am

It wasn't Harrison's actual defensive prowess that stopped him, it was the size. Bogut's not really strong enough to handle huge players either end of the court. Before he got drafted he said his strength was the thing he was most concerned with working on during the off season, so it must be an issue for him if it has a higher priority than his D.
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Postby Fenix on Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:26 am

maes wrote:Which is odd because Harrison doesn't have much in skills yet, i think wasn't he even a football player?

His dad was one, I'm not so sure about him, though.

I don't know much about NFL, but do they have 7 foot, 300 pounds guys running around and hitting people :shock:?
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Postby AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy on Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:54 am

I don't know much about NFL, but do they have 7 foot, 300 pounds guys running around and hitting people


Yup... Defensive and offensive linemen don't really have to run, they have to rush to the QB, stop the rush, or block their own QB. So basically they're used as human walls or battering rams. But a 7 footer has never been sighted in football so far. The average DL or OL in the league id about 6' 3" and 290 pounds. Still pretty big, no? :lol:
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Postby Fenix on Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:59 am

D-Weaver 99027 wrote:Yup... Defensive and offensive linemen don't really have to run, they have to rush to the QB, stop the rush, or block their own QB. So basically they're used as human walls or battering rams. But a 7 footer has never been sighted in football so far. The average DL or OL in the league id about 6' 3" and 290 pounds. Still pretty big, no? :lol:

OMFG. My height, but almost twice my weight. What kind of supplements do these people eat :shock:? Babies?
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