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Knicks Sign Jerome James

Postby SkipToMy_Lou on Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:21 pm

Jerome James, who played the last four seasons in Seattle, agreed yesterday to a five-year deal with the Knicks, according to his agent. Precise terms will not be set until the league completes its new labor deal. But it was expected that James will earn about $5 million in the first year of the contract, and $29 million over five years.

Before the contract is signed, James will be installed as the starting center, a job he will win by default. The Knicks traded their only true center, Nazr Mohammed, in February, and traded his replacement, Kurt Thomas, in June. The team drafted a center, Channing Frye, but he may not be ready for full-time work as a rookie.

So the void will be filled by James, a 7-foot-1 journeyman who turns 30 in November and has career averages of 4.9 points and 3.5 rebounds a game.

"It was clear once they moved Kurt Thomas and moved Nazr that they were in need of a real center, and that's what Jerome is," said James's agent, Marc Fleisher. "He's looking forward to the challenge."


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Postby J@3 on Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:24 pm

Contract is too high but otherwise he should help. If he plays like he did in the first round of the play-offs that'd be a bargain.
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Postby SkipToMy_Lou on Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:26 pm

If he plays like he did in the first round of the play-offs that'd be a bargain.


He wont :wink:
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Postby Kemp on Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:27 pm

Not a bad move by the Knicks. James can help the Knicks with his defensive talent because he is such a good shot blocker.
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Postby -BHZMAFIA- on Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:59 pm

Isaiah must've been pissed off with everybody talking about him being a bad GM :lol: He has been doing a pretty good job so far, I guess he finally realized that he had to actually make good moves to make the playoffs.
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Postby Do' on Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:00 pm

ah...im not a big fan of the knicks,but i think that is a great idea!
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Postby [L3]1101 on Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:16 pm

Jae wrote:Contract is too high but otherwise he should help. If he plays like he did in the first round of the play-offs that'd be a bargain.


James has never played like he did in the playoff until the playoffs. I don't expect him to play any better than his career average. He's just not motivated. Though he's capable of doing better, but more likely he won't. He's not worth 5m/year. maybe 2 or 3 max.
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Postby EGarrett on Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:34 pm

C James
PF Sweetney
SF Richardson
SG Crawford
PG Marbury

C Frye
PG Robinson
SG Houston
PF Rose
SF Lee

They should make the Playoffs at least. Even if they cut Houston.
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Postby Emiliano on Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:45 pm

EGarrett wrote:C James
PF Sweetney
SF Richardson
SG Crawford
PG Marbury


Pretty good starting five....its actually good this time....
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Postby MaD_hAND1e on Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:04 pm

[L3]1101 wrote:
Jae wrote:Contract is too high but otherwise he should help. If he plays like he did in the first round of the play-offs that'd be a bargain.


James has never played like he did in the playoff until the playoffs. I don't expect him to play any better than his career average. He's just not motivated. Though he's capable of doing better, but more likely he won't. He's not worth 5m/year. maybe 2 or 3 max.


For his sake in the minds of Knicks fans, he better, or he' ll have the last ounce of motivation booed out of him by the fans.
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Postby [L3]1101 on Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:13 pm

oh, another thing... if the knicks are looking for a center, why the hell in the world did they trade Nazr Mohammed? I'd take Mohammed over James any day. Someone please fire Thomas....
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Postby cklitsie on Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:37 pm

They're looking for a center because they traded Nazr. :idea:
And being a GM is harder than you think, many teams are afraid to make trades because everyone wants to be at the better end of the trades (especially with Jerry West :lol: ). It's not as easy as NBA Live makes you think.

About Jerome James, he wasn't too great in the regular season with Seattle, but he didn't get much playing time either. In the playoffs he showed what he really can do, not only against his former team Sacramento (extra motivation), but also against the tough frontcourt of the Spurs. When he gets the starting job I don't expect him to put up 20-10, more around 10-7. He'll split the minutes with Frye anyway, it's not like he will play 35+ mpg (don't expect him too).
He will be very usefull for the Knicks for his defense, we don't really need a scorer when we've got Marbury, Crawford and Q already.
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Postby kinokong on Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:12 pm

hopefully knicks can make the playoffs with the offseason additions of channing frye, nate robinson, q, jerome james, and david lee... the team doesn't look too shabby on paper but you never know until you put them on a court
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Postby Fenix on Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:45 pm

OMFG. It should be illegal to give Jerome James more than a LLE.
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Postby AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy on Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:23 pm

C James
PF Sweetney



MSG is going to be renamed to "Burger King Garden"... Those two guys' butts put next to one another are enough to cause a lunar eclipse... :lol:

Anyway, this is just sad. One good playoff series, and 5 MILLION DOLLARS in your pocket. Brian Cardinal, Adonal Foyle all over again. This is just stupid. (N)
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Postby Andrew on Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:41 pm

I won't say it's a great move, but I won't say it's a bad move. I will say that it's a bit much to pay but he does give the Knicks size. It will look a lot better if he puts up the standard "solid big man" numbers - like Kurt Thomas, for example - or even anything close to his first round performance this year, the former being a more reasonable expectation.
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Postby Jeffx on Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:24 am

Andrew wrote:I won't say it's a great move, but I won't say it's a bad move.


I agree, it's not that big a deal to me. Several GMs have questioned James' work habits. I'm looking at his stats and he averages 3-4 boards a game - WTF?? I'd rather have Kurt Thomas back - there's no questioning HIS heart & desire.

Knicks are still a soft . Isiah's Pistons teams won with tough, hard-nosed defense. Why is he trying to turn the Knicks into a watered-down version of the Suns? Looks like another season of mediocrity at the Garden. :roll:
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Postby Its_asdf on Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:48 am

Hah, I knew James would get picked up by some team and get overpaid. I'm guessing he'll go back to pre-playoff Jerome James after.
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Postby Ruff Ryder on Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:00 am

EGarrett wrote:C James
PF Sweetney
SF Richardson
SG Crawford
PG Marbury

C Frye
PG Robinson
SG Houston
PF Rose
SF Lee

They should make the Playoffs at least. Even if they cut Houston.

Houston is gone thank God. Isaiah released him a couple weeks ago. They have a pretty nice looking team right now. Hopefully James and Sweetney will be able to get the rebounds after Marbz, JC, and Q finish jacking up 20 3's a game. I wouldn't be surprised if his stats are boosted due to the addition of Q. If he can get the offensive boards then he can get decent looks inside off of them, which could lead him to a double double every night. I just hope he plays with that desire.

Right now Isaiah's moves are decent, but questionable. Both Q and James have come off of a high energy season/playoff, but short lived. Q's pretty streaky and James as said before has a questionable work ethic.

@ Jeffx, keep in mind he only averaged 17 mpg too.
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Postby tsherkin on Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:22 am

Jerome James won't be a start in NYK, especially at 30, but he should at least provide them with more rebounding and shot-blocking.

It's better than nothing, IMO.
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Postby fgrep15 on Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:01 am

Jerome James is a fouling machine. He has an okay back to the basket game, and is a good shot blocker, but he's not a great rebounder, though better than his last 2 seasons show because he's been playing with Reggie Evans who is a beast on the glass.

Anyways, decent signing, but way too much money for a 30 year old center who hasn't averaged more than 6 points or 5 rebounds once in his career, and has yet to play even 20 MPG.
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Postby Fenix on Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:10 am

Did anyone read that article at RealGM? "Isiah is making all the right moves." (http://realgm.com/src_fromtherafters/76/20050714/isiah_is_making_all_the_right_moves) I almost had a stroke. Signing a 30 years old, overweight, lazy, undeachieving, lying (reportedly) son of a bitch is "the right move to do"? I don't get it why they don't rebuild. Lakers are doing and their market is at least as tough as Knicks's. You think your fans would be more pissed if they had a few loosing seasons and then start winning (and sign LeBron) or if you have ten mediocre seasons in a row, howering at .500.
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Postby fgrep15 on Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:23 am

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Yes, but at least the Lakers have nice players to rebuild around, what do the Knicks have? Also the Knicks have been in the lottery 2 of the last 3 years, but accomplished nothing really lol
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Postby Jeffx on Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:57 am

VanK wrote:I don't get it why they don't rebuild. Lakers are doing and their market is at least as tough as Knicks's.



Because the Knicks are owned by Jim Dolan and Cablevision who don't want to rebuild. All they care about is barely getting in the playoffs. Whether the Knicks win or lose doesn't matter - they want the Garden filled in May. We have short-sighted management, and it's been that way since the Knicks last title(1973). This is what Isiah's dealing with, along with serious cap woes.

Dolan wouldn't care if NY loses in the first round for the next 15 years. Money from playoff ticket sales & cable TV is all that matters. In other words, we're f----d.
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Postby AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy on Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:07 am

Money from playoff ticket sales & cable TV is all that matters.


I agree, but doesn't a deep playoff run result in more money?
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