The Official Boston Celtics Offseason Thread

by **8-Hype** on Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:49 pm

What do you think? personally, the fourth option of an answer is not right. Walker is already free agent, they don't have to release him.

I heard rumours that Ainge wanna get rid of either Walker or Pierce, but one person should go. Walker is unrestricted free agent, and in my opinion they should keep Pierce, forget about Walker and try to sign Bosh (C), Curry (C) or C-Webb (PF). If C-Webb will be released, because he wants to get out of Philly, they can sign him, otherwise they should trade him in exchange for Walker. If they wanna get Curry, the Bulls will probably sign him in order to trade him for players, then Curry + someone for Walker + someone could go through. But I would like to see C-Webb in Boston.

Lately I saw on ESPN that trading Pierce is getting a more and more important topic. They say he doesn't fit Doc's imaginations of a team, and his playing style is keeping Doc cold. But I don't think that's the best they can do. Pierce is like the Celtics' heart and soul. He's making all the important plays. But Doc doesn't think so.

So what do you think will happen, or what would you like to see?

by **BOSS** on Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:01 pm

I think they should get rid of Antoine Walker. He is too overrated. I like him and all but if this franchise wants to start young they should trade or release him and start Al Jefferson. Give him a year or two and he will be a 10/10 guy. As for Pierce, i don't know why Boston might get rid of him. He is the franchise. I can see them getting rid of Pierce to bring in Gerald Green but if not why do they want to trade him. If any kind of trade happens, It should be for a Centre.

by **BOSS** on Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:02 pm

Also you guys will never get Bosh, he jus signed a 3 year extension

! You guys could probably get Webber and Curry will probably be staying a Bull.

by **Fresh8** on Fri Jul 01, 2005 8:42 pm

Trade both Pierce and Walker. They don't belong in the Celtics' youth movement anymore. Two trades to bring in a bunch of awesome young roleplayers or a consistent star would be a good idea. I was thinking, maybe the Clippers are dumb enough to trade Elton Brand for Walker and trade Pierce for someone else. Al Jefferson should start along with Gerald Green. I don't know, but I say trade both!

by **8-Hype** on Fri Jul 01, 2005 8:51 pm

If they trade both, they should either go for some young players, or two of the best players in the NBA!

by **BOSS** on Fri Jul 01, 2005 8:55 pm

Hmm ... who also is on the trade block around the league ?

by **GloveGuy** on Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:22 am

Onyx, don't believe the C-Webb stories. He's said openly on national television that he loves playing with AI and that he can't wait for next year.

by **FanOfAll** on Sat Jul 02, 2005 5:34 am

Walker is a FA (unrestricted obviously). The C's only want to throw the MLE at him, but he wants more apparently. I heard the Kings are interested in him. They should just let him walk and let the young big guys (Jefferson, Gomes, and Perkins) play. They need some toughness up front and Walker doesn't bring that. As for Pierce, they should keep him as the leader for a couple more years. Sure, he had the prima donna performance in the playoffs, but PP was more mature during the regular season than ever.

by **Indy** on Sat Jul 02, 2005 7:36 am

I hope the dumbass Celtics re-sign Walker. What a fat piece of shit :lol:

by **maes** on Sat Jul 02, 2005 8:18 am

They'll probably keep Pierce, as he's not very old. If you can rebuild around Kobe or Gasol you can rebuild aroud Pierce, all these guys are mid 20s.

Walker will probably go. The tragedy is that if Walker realized he's not very good at attacking the basket anymore and give the ball up he's a phenomenal PF. But i don't think he'll ever accept the rebound + distribute ball role, that's why he asked to be traded from Dallas and why he liked being in Atlanta.

He'll hate Sac, they'll want him to do exactly what he did in Dallas, rebound & pass, not shoot.

by **Sauru** on Sat Jul 02, 2005 10:17 am

i think we should let walker leave and try to sign someone else, a center hopefully. i dont want another 4 as i would like to see jefferson get alot more minutes this season.

as for trading pierce, i would be up for it based on the trade. if we get a nice young player in return then i am all for it, if we get someone of his age or older then its stupid imo.

basicly i want to see the celts give green and jefferson as many minutes to develop as possible. i think having a good center in the middle who could help clean up thier mistakes would be best. so if it takes pierce to get this center then by all means pull the trigger.

by **FendeR`** on Sat Jul 02, 2005 11:02 am

I don't think they should give up a pretty good vet like Paul Pierce quite yet. You can't have a team of all first-year and second-year guys, you need some veteran presence. Trade Walker and get a decent big man who can rebound and score some.

Bluesky · by **Andrew** on Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:13 pm

Obviously the fourth option isn't a viable one as that's not quite how the salary cap works.

While I understand the need to let the younger players grow, I think the Celtics would be wise to at least consider keeping Walker for a couple of years...at the right price. I wouldn't be too surprised to see them cut ties with him again though.

by **Mentally Hilarious** on Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:23 pm

In my eyes the youth movement is quite near completion, taking on more youngsters at the cost of more experienced players would turn the organization into a talentdrooling always rebuilding heap of nothing.

There are a few bits that I would rather see changed for something else, but without adding MAJOR rookie/sophmore talent it's not really worth it (but then again... if we could get Battier...).

Walker hangs on to what the right price is. 8 mil a year over 3 years I would guess is the most he can get for Boston, if even that.

by **Fresh8** on Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:37 pm

No way is Battier going to be dealt by the Grizz. He is way too important to Jerry West's game plan.

At the end of the day, it's going to be one of these guys going. Trading Walker away will bring in someone to provide more depth. IMO, they need a veteran presence to fill in when the younger guys are having problems. Of course, if Walker isn't trigger happy, everything would be good. But thats not the case...

by **Mentally Hilarious** on Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:43 pm

Battier will probably never play in green, but oh how much I would like it. Maybe if we drug West and then offer Davis straight up.

by **Fresh8** on Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:44 pm

haha... btw, where does Ricky D fit into all of this? Will he play a significant role in Beantown? Maybe someone could convince Minny to do KG for Ricky/Walker lol

by **Mentally Hilarious** on Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:48 pm

I think it depends on how seriously DA want to push for play-off, if they go further into rebuild, he'll probably be shipped. If not maybe Green and/or Gomes will se NBDL-action (let's hope not...).

by **Fresh8** on Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:50 pm

Oh.. they will rip it up lol - wats better? NBA ROY or NBDL MVP and scoring title?

But yes, the Celtics should push for the playoffs WITH the young guys, they will learn more along the way.

by **8-Hype** on Sat Jul 02, 2005 5:20 pm

FendeR` wrote:I don't think they should give up a pretty good vet like Paul Pierce quite yet. You can't have a team of all first-year and second-year guys, you need some veteran presence. Trade Walker and get a decent big man who can rebound and score some.

They now have seven of 15 players who have a one year experience and less. That would be suicide to give up Pierce. They need Bosh or Curry, but what will happen to LaFrentz?

by **Mentally Hilarious** on Sat Jul 02, 2005 5:23 pm

Boston doesn't NEED Bosh or Curry (neither of which is really availiable... Curry will probably sign in Chicago, and Bosh just signed a 3-year deal. Prying either of them away would probably need a package around Green, Jefferson or PP. Neither of which will happen.).

by **Sauru** on Sun Jul 03, 2005 4:28 pm

gotta admit, i would not mind having curry though lol

by **Jackal_** on Sun Jul 03, 2005 5:49 pm

Well it's evident what most people think... getting rid of Walker clears up lots of moola. The guy is useless and one of the most over-rated players today. He was pretty good about 4 years ago but he's been going downhill ever since.

All in favor of throwing Mr.Walker out say Aye!

Aye mafawka! (Y)

by **Fresh8** on Sun Jul 03, 2005 8:27 pm

Well, if Walker is happy with just rebounding and passing the ball. It would all work. Obviously egos don't allow that... (N)

by **Sauru** on Mon Jul 04, 2005 2:27 am

i would not mind keeping walker at a reduced salary(way reduced) but i rather see him go just so jefferson can get some more minutes.

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