Wizards answer for low post scorer

[tsbarbee2002]

Im a big Wizards fan and im curious as to what you guys think is the most likely scenario for the Wizards. For me it would probably be signing Shareef Abdur Rahim.

I giggled myself to tears writing that Kwame to Clippers one( Just what he needs right)

[fgrep15]

HAHA trade Kwame and role players for Elton Brand, yea, because the Clippers have just been waiting for that trade

[grusom]

Keep the core guys (Jamison, Arenas, Huges) together, they did great even without a lowpost precence. Kwame msut get out of Washington, that team is the worst thing that could happen to him. He flashed his talent a couple of times last season, and i think that he could do pretty good on another team. He will probably never be another Jermaine O'neal, but who knows how a change of scenario will change his game.

I think the Wizards should try to get a powerfull forward, but not nececarily Elton Brand. Perhabs a Mike Sweetney/Malik Rose/Robert Traylor-kind of player. Sean May or Ike Diogu would be perfect fits!

[Full Surface]

Stroooooooomile Swift.

[End Boss]

I could stand to be corrected, but I'm guessing sheef, stro, and ty are all out of the price range of the wiz (what with jamison, hughes, and gilbo having meaty contracts).. it's either a sign and trade (I'm not sure that kwame + hughes/jamison would even be good enough for brand let alone role players) or they let him walk for nothing (he's not worth terribly much more than nothing to them) and let JJ play PF/SF and draft a backup PF or sign a lesser name/older contract

[furious1]

Not enough choices. I say let Kwame walk. He'll probably play great somewhere else (for a year or two) but he's not going to do shit as long as he plays for the Wiz.

[fgrep15]

The team has more than one need. Kwame can be used to acquire a backup PG in a sign and trade, or another player that can help the team.

Shareef Abdur-Rahim is not a good fit with the team IMO as he's another 20 PPG scorer added to the mix. EG should be looking to get an athletic PF/C who can score inside but isn't neccesarliy a top option, and who can add shot blocking and low post defense.

One thing that would help a lot is if Jamison went back to how he was playing in Dallas instead of this jumpshooting thing he did this season. Shareef is more of a mid-range scorer, and his defense isn't neccesarily that great. I wouldn't mind him, but his offense though more efficient is a lot like Jamison's.

[tsbarbee2002]

HAHA trade Kwame and role players for Elton Brand, yea, because the Clippers have just been waiting for that trade

We could sell the Clippers on the idea that they should get someone in return for Brand before he just walks with nobody in return for him.

Im pretty sure the Clippers would bite on Kwame's potential, throw in some players and/or a pick and i could see the that deal going through

fgrep15, Arenas already plays 40+ min a night, and Hughes plays it from time to time, PG is far from their worries. Resign Dixon and that's taken care of(Not going to be an easy task, but im sure they could get it done)

grusome, a low post scorer, just a threat really, is definitely needed
If the Wizards want to take their Franchise to another level, they need that person.

[huarache']

Keep the core guys (Jamison, Arenas, Huges) together, they did great even without a lowpost precence. Kwame msut get out of Washington, that team is the worst thing that could happen to him. He flashed his talent a couple of times last season, and i think that he could do pretty good on another team. He will probably never be another Jermaine O'neal, but who knows how a change of scenario will change his game.

I think the Wizards should try to get a powerfull forward, but not nececarily Elton Brand. Perhabs a Mike Sweetney/Malik Rose/Robert Traylor-kind of player. Sean May or Ike Diogu would be perfect fits!

good move keep the 3 big scorers of the whiz add brand!

[fgrep15]

HAHA trade Kwame and role players for Elton Brand, yea, because the Clippers have just been waiting for that trade

We could sell the Clippers on the idea that they should get someone in return for Brand before he just walks with nobody in return for him.

Im pretty sure the Clippers would bite on Kwame's potential, throw in some players and/or a pick and i could see the that deal going through

fgrep15, Arenas already plays 40+ min a night, and Hughes plays it from time to time, PG is far from their worries. Resign Dixon and that's taken care of(Not going to be an easy task, but im sure they could get it done)

grusome, a low post scorer, just a threat really, is definitely needed
If the Wizards want to take their Franchise to another level, they need that person.

Yea, the Clippers are terrified of Brand walking out after the 2008/2009 season, 4 years from now, so they better trade him quickly

I think it's about time you just stopped with that one. If the Clippers wanted to trade Brand, they'd have offers coming from all over, and they wouldn't even think about a Kwame, pick and role players trade. They'd laugh at EG and slam the phone on him.

The Wizards draft pick is in the 20's, and no one is expecting it to rise. The Clippers are even contemplating trading their current 12th pick so they can get more impact players, and have more money to bring back Simmons and Jaric, why would they want a lower pick for Brand? The Clippers have no positional needs right now, their needs are a shooter and a solid bench. Brand would only be traded to get better, not to get worse, some people think because the Clippers owners like to save money, they're stupid

People really need to think before they talk about trades

Dixon and Blake have said they want to go to teams where they can actually play and contribute, the likelyhood of them coming back isn't that high. Like you said, the Wizards have Arenas and Hughes playing close to 40 MPG. If Kwame is not going to be brought back, and another PF can be gotten without a S&T [which I don't think can happen], then at least getting a need for Kwame would help.

I don't see Shareef being too possible as the Blazers won't really be looking to acquire Kwame. A player I'd like is Donyell Marshall, who can be acquired in a S&T with the Raptors. Marshall will give a consistent outside threat that isn't Arenas, good scoring, decent defense at PF, and will be a good addition to the team.

He won't be a low post scorer though, that's the only problem, but looking at the cap situation and players out there, unless the Wizards are trading Jamison or a package of some other players it will be hard to get one.

[tsbarbee2002]

Yea, the Clippers are terrified of Brand walking out after the 2008/2009 season, 4 years from now, so they better trade him quickly

Apologies
I though Brand was restricted

U got me on that, but i'll have to disagree with that Donyell Marshall idea.
Marshall hangs around the perimeter and relies on his jumper too much. I will say though, that he is a capable defender.

The Wiz need a low post threat, Marshall is not

[fgrep15]

Yup, I definately agree, he waits in the corners, but the team also needs a consistent outside threat that is not the PG. Jarvis Hayes could fill that role when he returns next season as the backup SG/SF though.

[Strike Freedom]

Next thing to hope for..
Kwame turns into Rodman..
Defender+Rebounder.. that's it!

[air gordon]

NONE OF THE ABOVE

[-BHZMAFIA-]

Stroooooooomile Swift.

HA! Well if Swift goes to the Wizards, expect that to be a sign-and-trade deal and I don't know why the Grizzlies would want Kwame Brown if they are looking for a bruising PF. If the Grizzlies can't do a sign-and-trade I don't see how the Wizards would have all that money to sign Swift which he wants close to the max.

[maes]

I say add a spot up shooter, i don't think the big 3 of washington needs major changes.

Washington seems like one of the few teams that has a bounty of big men.

[kinokong]

jamison+kwame for brand would work. i don't know i just have a feeling that 3 outside scorers with no dominant big man will work even in the big-manless eastern conference, you still gotta have someone to go against shaq, the 2 wallaces, and the other oneal to win not to mention chicago has a young frontline in the makings...

[fgrep15]

I say add a spot up shooter, i don't think the big 3 of washington needs major changes.

Washington seems like one of the few teams that has a bounty of big men.

Yup, that's why I was saying Marshall would be a good piece in a S&T for Kwame. He gives consistent 3PT shooting and fills the PF role.

jamison+kwame for brand would work. i don't know i just have a feeling that 3 outside scorers with no dominant big man will work even in the big-manless eastern conference, you still gotta have someone to go against shaq, the 2 wallaces, and the other oneal to win not to mention chicago has a young frontline in the makings...

It would work if the Clippers were on crack

The Clippers do this why? Kwame would require a S&T, and Jamison already makes about the same as Brand which would mean they'd have to give up another player for him. Even without that the Clippers already have Maggette, and likely Simmons back at SG/SF. Jamison is not a good PF, especially in the West and on the defensive end, and their's no certainty in Kwame's production.

Brand >>>> Kwame and Jamison.

[beau_boy04]

I'd say get rid of K Brown as soon as possible. He's the real team's disease. The only bad thing is that his name will always be attached to the one and only MJ

[Matt]

honestly, why the hell would the Clippers want Jamison or Brown? Jamison doesnt play defense, shoots too much and eats up the salary cap....Brown hasn't done shit all in this league and it's about damn time that he should be getting @least 15 & 7. Brand on the other hand just so happens to be a great mid range shooter with post game, excellent one-on-one defender, shot blocker and great rebounder. Not to mention a guy that doesnt bitch about shots or PT.

That Brown for Marshall deal, i'm not sure if i'd be for it. It'd leave Washington thin upfront with size, they'd have to sign another decent big man otherwise their small lineup would get abused.

What the wizards need is a guy @the PF position that has post game and can score...that was their weakness, when you played Washington you knew that 80% of shots would come from 3 players. They need some variety.

[tsbarbee2002]

honestly, why the hell would the Clippers want Jamison or Brown?

U act as if this would be out of character for the Clippers!!!

I could definitely see them trading for potential(Brown), hell, they've drafted three high school players in 5 years.

Brown is going to eventually be a very good player, it's just his fucked up attitude that is holding him back

I wish we didn't have to ship him out but he needs a change of scenery

But that's a whole different disscusion

[fgrep15]

U act as if this would be out of character for the Clippers!!!

It's definately out of character for the Clippers. Let me tell you 2 things about the Clippers:

1) They don't take risks in trades, if you can find the last risky trade they've made, just tell it to me. The Clippers don't take risks, Daruis Miles for Andre Miller was not a risk, Tyson Chandler for Elton Brand was FAR from a risk.

2) They don't sign players unless they feel they deserve to be signed, their's not maybe he'll be good, it's he better be good. They re-signed Elton Brand and Corey Maggette, gave offers to Gilbert Arenas and Kobe Bryant, and let Michael Olowokandi, Lamar Odom, Andre Miller, Q-Rich, Maurice Taylor etc go.

The Clippers drafted one of their highschool players to trade him for Elton Brand, they aren't stupid, they just like to save money. I don't understand why people don't get this.

That Brown for Marshall deal, i'm not sure if i'd be for it. It'd leave Washington thin upfront with size, they'd have to sign another decent big man otherwise their small lineup would get abused.

PF - Donyell Marshall | Michael Ruffin | E.Thomas | Jamison
C - Brendan Haywood | Etan Thomas | Ruffin | Ramos [ ]

[Indy]

hahahaha you have no idea how hard i lauged at the idea of the Elton Brand trade.

But if a miracle was pulled off and they SOMEHOW got Elton... imagine that lineup

Gilbert
Hughes
Jamison
Elton
Whoever

Thats pretty damn good! They might actually be able to compete with the Pacers next season!

[maes]

Donald Sterling is not in this to win a championship, he's in this to make money. The Clippers are business investment, nothing more. Now, a part of business is winning to make the team popular & sell tickets, but at some point there's diminishing returns considering the salaries you'll need.

This is a very old article, but explains why Sterling does what he does. And unlike most teams, if the Clips get their books red, he has to foot the bill because he's the sole owner, not a group of investors who can divide up the losses.

http://espn.go.com/nba/s/2003/0417/1540659.html

"LOS ANGELES -- It's hard not to laugh at the Clippers. Another losing season. Another postseason missed. Another front row seat at the NBA Draft Lottery.

But you'd be hard-pressed to find Donald T. Sterling, one of the most reviled owners in sports, complaining. The pain of losing three out of every four games and more than 1,200 in total since buying the team for $13.5 million in 1981, has to be soothed by his penchant for putting winning numbers on the books.

Thanks in part to a league-low $42.7 million payroll, a strong market and plenty of help from the 28 other teams, the Clippers likely will be among the league's most profitable teams once again this season. "

[Fresh8]

I guess u could put a lil bit on the Kobster for playing with the CLippers last offseason.... Anyways, let Kwame walk. Its time for both parties to move on!

And the Wizards need to sign someone who can stand and reboudn the ball.... someone like that tall Sun Ming Ming guy!