Let's talk about trade

The trade deadline is Feb.20th, who will go where???

There's a rumor about GP going to the Lakers exchange for Fisher and Rush, but I don't think that will happen, if it does happen Lakers are the one who gets the better deal for a short term.
Latrell Sprewell and Kurt Thomas will leave New York, since Sprewell makes so much money, and Kurt Thomas has to included in the deal, no team would easil take them.
Magics is the team who really needs a trade, Doc said they need size and rebounding, and their Mike Miller is very hot right now for the trade, I think Laterll and Kurt may have a chance go to Magic(like what I said Latrell makes so much money, Magic may not be able to afford him). Mike Miller and Andrew DeClercq will going for Paul Gasol, that's another rumor, that's pretty reasonable, because Paul has everything Magic needs right now.

What do you guys think?
Experts think Tony Parker could be a Steve Nash-type, or he could wind up a Kenny Anderson-type, but he is NOT as good as GP. If Sonics offer GP to Spurs for Tony Parker, Spurs would probably take him.

New Jersey, Piston, and Washington don't want to trade anybody. Lakers may not have a chance, and it seems to me they don't even care about trade.
Anyway, Mike Miller , Gary Payton and Latrell Sprewell are three of the biggest names mentioned in possible deals.

There's a rumor about GP going to the Lakers exchange for Fisher and Rush

That's not going to happen.

Mike Miller is very hot right now for the trade

All I keep hearing is that the Magic don't have any plans of dealing Miller. He is their only other consistent scorer apart from TMac and hasn't given the Magic any reason to deal him.

If Sonics offer GP to Spurs for Tony Parker, Spurs would probably take him.

Depends if their plans were for the present or the future.

I absolutely wish the trade would happen with the Lakers and GP!! Unlikely but hey...

As for Miller and DeClercq for Paul Gasol, being reasonable! Please!! Paul Gasol is much more valuable than that and Memphis would never make that deal! lol.

rumors here for the 6ers have vanhorn,coleman,sprewell,ratliff,g.hill
involved with possible trades..
dont like the hill trade cuz i see him retiring soon.. ratliff, good shot blocker and 6ers need one but hes still kinda undersized compared to the west centers, a spreewell trade would be nice, 6ers need another gr8 scorer to complement iverson and knicks are very willing to give him up...

also payton was mentioned but hes getn old, still good but old.. how much yrs does he got left...

Mike Miller is very hot right now for the trade

All I keep hearing is that the Magic don't have any plans of dealing Miller. He is their only other consistent scorer apart from TMac and hasn't given the Magic any reason to deal him.

Mike Miller IS very hot for the trade, if Magic wants get size and rebounding, the only choice they got is Mike Miller. Grant Hill cant go anywhere, because his insurence thing, his insurence company pays 80% of his salary, just like any other injuried player. Armstrong will become a free agent this summer, and he is already 33+ years old, no one would take him unless Mike Miller is in the deal.

Memphis would like to take someone has more experience, that's why I am saying Magic would make a deal with them.

I think Payton's got about 5 more years in him. I know he's gonna have a long career since he takes care of his body well. If GP were to go to the Lakers than his stats would dramatically change. He'd go from the number 1 option to the number 3.

The Lakers have offered Robert Horry, Tracy Murray, Kareem Rush, Slava Medavenko and a #1 in 2003 for Theo Ratliff and Jason Terry.

Timberwolves have expressed an interest in GP, but they don't want to trade Wally Szczerbiak.
Latrell Sprewell for Keith Van Horn is a new rumor, but this one seems reasonable for both team.

Spree - Van Horn rumor is not new and I don't think the Knicks would be getting the best out of that deal, so I don't see it happening.

well, is the Knicks

Anyway, Mike Miller , Gary Payton and Latrell Sprewell are three of the biggest names mentioned in possible deals.

i don't think Latrell would be traded! he's earning so much but not performing well, no other team can afford having him in the team right now! unless he performs like a few years ago in the Finals

Spree - Van Horn is possible because Spree makes so much money, if Knicks can throw away a "Super Star" exchange for a potential player plus some cash, Knicks would do it. On Sixer's side, they don't lose anything, and they get a better player for a short term.

Magics is the only one who needs some spark, I just read an article from newspaper. There are only 4 decent big men in the league who are available: Cleveland's Tyrone Hill; Philadelphia's Derrick Coleman; New Orleans' Elden Campbell; Miami's Brian Grant. There's no way Magic would take Grant due to his contract problem. Look at the other three, Coleman is too old now; Who in the Magic would Hornet wants-----no one; so Tyrone Hill would be Magic's only trade choice, but in order to get Tyrone Hill, Magic will have to give away Mike Miller and another roster or a future first round draft pick; Cleveland now needs a experience player not a 3rd year player like Mike Miller, so this probably won't happen either.

What do you guys think, the trade deadline is in two days now. I really hope Magic can step up a little bit, and Lakers make some change.

Oh yeah, I can almost guarantee that GP is leaving Sonics soon, because they lost 6 games in a row now, that means something.

Alright I'll give a little update on what I know of the Raptors:

It's said there's a standing offer for the Hawks of Lindsey Hunter and Hakeem Olajuwon for Theo Ratliff. The Magic offered two first rounders for Ratliff but the Hawks laughed it away appearantly. They are said to be holding out for the deal with Toronto looking if anything better comes along, otherwise they might do it at the deadline.

Rumours of Sheed for juts about every Raptors not named Vince Carter have floated around. I don't think these are realistic, the best offer I've read is Antonio Davis and Jerome Williams for Rasheed Wallace. I don't think Portland would even consider it without being able to dump Stoudamire, I bet the Raptors would take him on for a chance of Sheed, but this deal seems to have 0.01% probability.

Some talk about Eddy Curry has surfaced, I don't know what the Raptors would give up, but I'm sure it would have to be at least Morris Peterson. I'd do this in an instant, I don't know how far in the doghouse Curry is with the Bulls. Might have to add Bradley or something, which I wouldn't like.

Antonio Davis for Derrick Coleman was mentioned, I'd like this, I think it would be good for both teams. Maybe add some more players to mix it up (I'd love Aaron McKie or Brian Skinner on the Raptors for obvious reasons).

Some other team rumours:

Bulls want Eddie Jones, Heat want expiring contracts, which the Bulls don't have. Sam Smith suggests a deal that would include forwards Eddie Robinson and Marcus Fizer for Jones. Either Jamal Crawford or Fred Hoiberg would likely be included to make the numbers work.

The Atlanta Hawks are saying they'll deal Shareef Abdur-Rahim and Theo Ratliff. Miami is said to be interested, along with Golden State, Philadelphia, Memphis, Orlando and the New York Knicks.

from espn: Sonics reportedly turn down N.Y. deal
The Sonics have rejected an offer from the Knicks that would send Gary Payton to New York in exchange for Kurt Thomas and Charlie Ward, high-ranking officials with three different teams told The New York Times on Tuesday.
that deal looks kinda lopsided if u asked me.. how are thomas/ward gonna improve the sonics... that would jus make their team worse..

also.. hope some kind of spreewell deal will bring him to the 6ers...

from espn: Sonics reportedly turn down N.Y. deal
The Sonics have rejected an offer from the Knicks that would send Gary Payton to New York in exchange for Kurt Thomas and Charlie Ward, high-ranking officials with three different teams told The New York Times on Tuesday.
that deal looks kinda lopsided if u asked me.. how are thomas/ward gonna improve the sonics... that would jus make their team worse..

also.. hope some kind of spreewell deal will bring him to the 6ers...

I heard Knicks turned down Dallas' deal, not Sonics. Dallas wanted to trade Nick VE for Thomas and Wards.

Like what I said, in 24 hours Gary Payton will leave Sonics, I am 60% sure.

I heard Knicks turned down Dallas' deal, not Sonics. Dallas wanted to trade Nick VE for Thomas and Ward

The Sonics did reject Knicks offer for GP.

Like what I said, in 24 hours Gary Payton will leave Sonics, I am 60% sure.

Let's see, just 1 more day. I don't see where would you send GP, or will seattle just realease him? That's a possible way to leave the Sonics tho.

Then you explain to me why they lost 6 games in a row, they must have some big changes going on in the team.

If they have lost 6 consecutives, is too bad, they have to start playing harder.

Does any team in a bad streak need to get rid of the only superstar they have?

If they trade Payton, do you see them capable of getting any wins? Seattle is not trading Payton for some fool, and at the moment there are not superstars on the trade market other than Spree and if they refused the Knicks offer, means that the Knicks didn't want to offer Spree to them or Seattle wants a PG to substitute Payton there.

The trade deadline is tomorrow, if they didn't make some change in the team, how come they lost 6 games in a row before the trade deadline?????? Isn't this a little bit odd?

6 games, how many lost games have Cleveland? Are you thinking before posting?, I don't think you are trying your best, use some logic and you will see 6 games is just a bad moment, the Lakers have been thru that, even the Kings have had that. You are making 6 lost games a big deal, this is not NBA Live 2003, this is the real thing. They will not make the playoffs but you can't think that 6 games are going to make disappear a team throwing away the best player they have. Think a little before posting, your short post about the same thing are annoying.

Eg. 6 lost games, 6 lost games. Come with facts explaining what are the reasons the Sonics should trade Payton, do you think Payton is the responsible for those loses?

Damn it!!! How do you want me to explain it to you, why they lost 6 games just before the trade deadline??????? Use your logic, not mine.

No, I want you to use your logic. I know well why they have lost those 6 games, the case is who do you think is the responsible of losing those, if you think it is Payton, then obviously you know just a little of what Payton is. I don't care 6 games, they will win and break that streak, but my other point is why do you think they should trade Payton?,

Simple, just come with facts, not just they have lost 6 games, they have lost 6 games. If your theory about getting rid of the best player for losing 6 games, then Sacramento should get rid of Webber & Bibby, cause they have been over that streak.

I'm telling you, you need to use your logic, I'm using mine and don't see that's a good reason to trade Payton, why?, cause they won't get a better Playmaker, it's simple.

Ok, maybe I was wrong about GP will leave, but they lost 6 games just before the trade deadline is not coincident.

That's a bad coincident. And yes, they might trade him, I'm not saying they won't but if they do, they better get enough, cause there are just a few and I meant a very few better than Payton at the Point.

Well, they did trade Mike Miller now.