HS to Pros are coming to an end

by **tsbarbee2002** on Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:04 pm

David Stern has been seeking an age limit, well 2,3 years from now he won't have to worry about that. After this Greg Oden kid jumps, the HS scene should be quiet. Any kid who scores 20 a game in HS is being hyped up to go to the draft, but if the kid looked around, the college game is slowly picking up. A perfect example is Gerald Green. Barring he has dyamite workouts with the NBA, he's a late 1st round-early 2nd round pick

by **Amphatoast** on Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:06 pm

this is good, get more educated children out there.
if kobe took a college philosophy class maybe him and phil jackson would of worked out

by **tsbarbee2002** on Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:08 pm

LOL, it may come out as a joke but it's the truth. Im really glad the college game is picking up. There will be much more polished players coming out ready to contribute

by **J@3** on Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:28 pm

Gerald Green is seen by most as a lottery pick, I've seen him in mock drafts go as high as #6.

by **Ataraxia** on Sat Apr 09, 2005 4:37 pm

yeah Green is not anywhere near being a late first round pick. (y)

YouTube · by **shadowgrin** on Sat Apr 09, 2005 5:07 pm

If that happens, the NBA's new educational campaign slogan:
Don't be a fool, stay in school!

by **Indy** on Sat Apr 09, 2005 5:09 pm

shadowgrin wrote:If that happens, the NBA's new educational campaign slogan:
Don't be a fool, stay in school!

good one dude

reaaally good one.

by **AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy** on Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:21 pm

Im really glad the college game is picking up.

Not really. Stern has stated that his intention is to create a farm-team system, using the NBDL as a base. High-schoolers can still declare draft eligibility, and get picked by NBA teams. They then have to go to the NBDL until they turn 20, at which point thay can play in the pros. Now why would a kid play in the NBDL instead of college, you might ask. The answer is: He will be paid the standard rookie salary by the team that picked him even if he isn't part of the pro roster...

by **J@3** on Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:25 pm

The one I read said that there'd be 15 NBDL teams and each would be used by 2 NBA teams. That being said, the NBDL is a joke at the moment so they'd have to do some tweaking to fix it up.

by **Fresh8** on Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:26 pm

I like the NBDL idea... an idea is that they will expand it to 15 teams... two NBA teams own each team... and they send their reserves down there... i reakon it would work!

by **Strike Freedom** on Sat Apr 09, 2005 10:04 pm

but NBDL have different rules than NBA...
won't it confuse players? :lol:

by **Fresh8** on Sat Apr 09, 2005 10:11 pm

If u got no bain it will lol...

the idea of a new NBDL would be it to be NBA's minor league so if any plan went ahead.,.. we'd see NBA rules implemented...

by **Sauru** on Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:27 am

imo they would have to match the NBDL's rules to the NBA's for this to work out. they cant use the NBDL as a trial and error league for possible new rule changes and expect it to survive.

by **Jeffx** on Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:47 am

Dweaver99027-Greek Myth wrote:
Im really glad the college game is picking up.

Not really. Stern has stated that his intention is to create a farm-team system, using the NBDL as a base. High-schoolers can still declare draft eligibility, and get picked by NBA teams. They then have to go to the NBDL until they turn 20, at which point thay can play in the pros. Now why would a kid play in the NBDL instead of college, you might ask. The answer is: He will be paid the standard rookie salary by the team that picked him even if he isn't part of the pro roster...

Excellent. At least these kids will get paid for their craft. That always bothered me about the NCAA. Football & basketball bring in millions and everybody gets paid(including loudmouth broadcasters) except the kids doing the work. Of course the NCAA tries to pass this off as amateur athletics - please! These football & basketball players are semi-pros, IMO. Many of these young men come from poor backgrounds. If they want to make money in the NBDL, more power to them. No one has the right to judge them. They'll learn the NBA game, get a nice check, and come into the pros better prepared.

by **T-Comm55** on Sun Apr 10, 2005 2:21 am

I really like the NBDL idea, it works out for both parties. By playing in the NBDL the players get paid and NBA teams get "experienced" and "mature" players.

by **The X** on Sun Apr 10, 2005 2:48 am

I got a question....will that rookie who is NBDL salary count against the team's cap?!? I think it must not if it is to work as the team will already be paying the 15 other players on their active roster as well as 6 or 7 in the farm league....must be cap-exempt....

by **Sauru** on Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:39 am

Jeffx wrote:
Dweaver99027-Greek Myth wrote:
Im really glad the college game is picking up.

Not really. Stern has stated that his intention is to create a farm-team system, using the NBDL as a base. High-schoolers can still declare draft eligibility, and get picked by NBA teams. They then have to go to the NBDL until they turn 20, at which point thay can play in the pros. Now why would a kid play in the NBDL instead of college, you might ask. The answer is: He will be paid the standard rookie salary by the team that picked him even if he isn't part of the pro roster...

Excellent. At least these kids will get paid for their craft. That always bothered me about the NCAA. Football & basketball bring in millions and everybody gets paid(including loudmouth broadcasters) except the kids doing the work. Of course the NCAA tries to pass this off as amateur athletics - please! These football & basketball players are semi-pros, IMO. Many of these young men come from poor backgrounds. If they want to make money in the NBDL, more power to them. No one has the right to judge them. They'll learn the NBA game, get a nice check, and come into the pros better prepared.

the biggest selling point for not paying the college players is, they are getting a totally free top level college education. that in itself is worth a ton of money if you think about the schools these players go to. granted its no way near what they generate but still a free education is nothing to laugh at. the problem is these players dont care about that. why would they? they gonna have more money than they can handle if things go thier way. of course if they jump straight to pro and get hurt in thier rookie year then they might regret skipping college.

by **Jeffx** on Sun Apr 10, 2005 4:24 am

They could get hurt in college too. It's a chance they're willing to take. Life's a risk.

My thing is, college should be for kids who WANT to go there. If a young man wants to go to college to learn and play ball, great for him. But you & I know college isn't for everybody. To me, a kid who goes to school, plays ball and takes B.S. classes without learning anything is wasting time. I say let there be an option for those cats who only want to play ball.

by **Madsnyb** on Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:48 am

A potential problem, though, would be that college ball would be a lot weaker :cry:

, as I think surprisingly many players would do this - instant payment is always tempting... :twisted:

by **J@3** on Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:25 pm

I agree 100% with Jeffx. Why should a kid who's good enough for the NBA be forced to go to college before he can enter the L? From a personal standpoint, no matter how many times I've tried it's just obvious that the whole school thing isn't for me... if I was good enough to be drafted I'd be going for it as soon as possible, but if there was an age limit and I had to go to college beforehand it's hugely likely that I'd last about a month, drop out and never be heard from again.

Alot of people say things like "oh it's good to get a college education in case basketball doesn't work out" but I can guarantee you being drafted in the first round, or even signing the minimum salary would set that person up financially for life (if they're smart). I mean a first round draft pick is worth a 3 year contract at like a minimum 900k.. 900k! Who the hell comes straight out of college and has 3 year job security plus nearly a million in the bank? I dunno, I don't like the idea of forcing people to do things just because David Stern doesn't like highschoolers. Maybe he should consider that the next time he counts all of the money the NBA is making out of LeBron, KG and Kobe merchandise.

by **tsbarbee2002** on Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:25 am

Im curious to see how the NBDL teams will be assigned to the NBA teams

it would be smart if all the D league players were put in a draft pool and the NBA picked out of it

by **J@3** on Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:27 am

I kinda like that idea actually, it'd give NBA teams a chance to have players whom they actually think could become useful for them, or have some potential. If they go into it with the current rosters, I think there'd probably be a fair few players who will find themselves being released at some point.

by **tsbarbee2002** on Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:55 am

Exactly.
How do u think the D league teams should be split up amongst the NBA teams?

by **J@3** on Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:58 am

I'm guessing via location would be the easiest way.

by **tsbarbee2002** on Mon Apr 11, 2005 4:21 am

I got a great question!!

What players do u think would benefit the most from the minor leagues if it were implemented for next season.
When i minor leagues, i immediately thought of Nate Robinson. So many ? marks about his game and he almost certaintly wouldn't be a top 20 pick. A year in the D league would get him considerable recognition

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