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Postby Indy on Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:47 pm

beau_boy04 wrote:I haven't heard anything about Andrew Bogut???


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Postby Fresh8 on Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:54 pm

Umm... Andrew Bogut is 6'10". He first came to fame after leading the Aussie Junior mens team to a gold medal including a guge 30+ point and 15 rebound performance against Team USA... Went to Utah Utes to average 12 ppg and 7-8 rpg in his first seaosn and won Freshman of the years honours... played for Aussie team at the Athens Olympics and I believe had a double double against Tim Duncan... He was convinced to play another season for Utah which was a great chocie as he had 26 double doubles and averaged 20 ppg and 12 rpg... Got Utah to Sweet Sixteen and now may be the number one pick in NBA Draft

Strengths: He can move very well for his size.. good footwork... got range on his jumper... very underrated passer... got a few low post moves and a little bit of a hook shot... smart player too and his work ethic is huge...

Weaknesses: He's not a very strong player and will prob get harrased in the post by bigger guys like Shaq... Not an athlete- i think he will play about 32 mpg in the NBA... lacks defensive intensity... will struggle against huys who hold him in check...

NBA Comparison: A much better Vlade Divac

Bogut will be good but maybe not great... He was a post presence in college but it was viewed that when bigger guys started playing him and double teams slowed him down a lot on offence. Hes got potential though but the fact that he is another big man who is entering the NBA who is soft and rather pulls up for a jumper than banging down low...
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Postby COOLmac© on Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:39 pm

double teams slowed him down a lot on offence

who wouldn't?
if you get double team, the opposing team is trying to shut you down...anyways bogut is a little famous since i think he owned tim duncan once......
i consider him to be an aussie counter part of Yao (Y)
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Postby Fresh8 on Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:45 pm

But Bogut couldnt handle it at all... especially when the guys were bigger.. he wont stand a chance unless he gets stronger... hes a much shorter Yao with a btter jumper IMO...

And he didnt own duncan but he did good for someone his age and experience... i think he hadf 11 and 13 in that game...
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Postby Indy on Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:51 pm

Bogut did a great job when oklahoma doubled him up. He made some great passes out of the post to open 3 shooters.
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Postby Fresh8 on Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:54 pm

aha... thats where his passing comes in... great passer for his size. But he will still have trouble especially if he has to score and he cant pass out of it...
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Postby J@3 on Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:17 pm

But Bogut couldnt handle it at all... especially when the guys were bigger.. he wont stand a chance unless he gets stronger... hes a much shorter Yao with a btter jumper IMO...


Question: How many NBA teams have 3 competent guys over 7 foot they can throw at Bogut at one time?

Question: How many NBA teams are going to focus their entire defense against Bogut like they do in college?

His athletisism is underrated, after the Olympics he came back to the college game looking better than ever. The fact that his college team is shit apart from him shows that teams can afford to throw their entire defense at him and not get punished by it. NBA teams can not and will not do this.
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Postby The X on Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:46 pm

X's 2005 MOCK DRAFT (Version 1)

Basically, I'm basing this mock draft on current standings and on who I think will be in draft based on current info (so no Marvin Williams :( )....here it is....version 1....next version will probably come after lottery....

1. Atlanta: C/F- Andrew Bogut
Hawks need everything basically, but they can't afford to pass up a big man as good as Andrew Bogut. Jason Collier will only take them so far.

2. Charlotte: G- Chris Paul
They love this guy, and need a PG badly. If Paul doesn't declare, look for them to trade down a couple of pics to grab Deron Williams.

3. New Orleans: G- Deron Williams
Desperate for a starting PG, Hornets will pick Williams a little earlier than everyone else expects. Or they will pick best available and trade down for a PG like Williams.

4. Utah: C- Martynas Andriuskevicius
With 2 PG's that could really help them both gone by this pick, the Jazz will go big and hope it pays off. I can't see them taking a high schooler like Green.

5. Golden State: F- Tiago Splitter
Looks like the Warriors have given up on Dunleavy Jr with this pick. Splitter's a Gasol-like talent at PF who could end up playing a little bit as a big 3.

6. Portland: G/F- Gerald Green
Trailblazers won't be able to contain themselves if high schooler Green is still on the board at 6. It's either Green or Taft here.

7. Milwaukee: F/C- Fran Vazquez
Bucks need a big and they will prefer to take a punt on the athletic Vazquez over the inconsistent Taft.

8. Toronto: F- Nemanja Aleksandrov
Not what Raptors fans were hoping for. He needs a lot of time.

9. New York: G- Raymond Felton
I'm making a bold prediction that the Knicks, for once will not pick another PF. Meet the Knicks' new starting PG.

10. LA Clippers: G/F- Antoine Wright
Clippers need backup for Maggette and Simmons at the SG and SF spots. Wright is probably best suited for their needs at this picks.

11. New Jersey: F/C- Chris Taft
If Taft falls to them and he pans out, this could be one of the steals of the draft. Although that's two big IFs.

12. Orlando: G- Rashad McCants
Magic would have been better served with Antoine Wright, but Magic go with best SG available. Will combine with Nelson and Francis to make a dynamic 3-headed (albeit very small) backcourt rotation.

13. LA Lakers: G- Jarrett Jack
Lakers need a PG in the worst kind of way. With Kobe bickering with Atkins, a new PG will be running show next season. Jack could be their man.

14. Toronto (from Phi): F- Danny Granger
Toronto will be frustrated to have missed out on Jack, but they could have taken Felton with their other 1st Round pick. Raptors take best on board, which happens to be do-it-all SF Danny Granger.

15. Indiana: F- Joey Graham
With all the injuries that the Pacers seem to have in the frontcourt, the Pacers will pick a forward. It's either Graham or Simien here, but for some reason I think they'll go with Graham.

16. Minnesota: C/F- Johan Petro
T'wolves need a new SF, but they figure Petro will at the very least, be an upgrade over the Kandi Man.

17. Charlotte (from Cle): F- Hakim Warrick
Bobcats seem to love their stringy, athletes and Hakim is one of the best you'll find. Nice pick at this spot.

18. Phoenix (from Chi): G- Francisco Garcia
You might think it's a stretch to have Garcia this high, but with a strong NCAA tourney and good workouts, he could move this high. Garcia could easily fit into the Suns' playing style, and the fact that he can play anywhere from the 1 through to 3 means his versatility will suit the Suns when they want to run different lineups at opponents.

19. Boston: F- Charlie Villanueva
Forward with potential who can play anywhere in the frontcourt. Other players that could fall to the C's are Rudy Fernandez, Joey Graham or Kennedy Winston.

20. Denver (from Was): G- Rudy Fernandez
Nuggets have 2 consecutive picks, so they'll use one of them on a foreigner who they'll probably leave in Europe for a season or two. Fernandez is a combo guard who could help the Nuggets team a year or two from now.

21. Denver: G- Kennedy Winston
Nuggets really need a 2. Winston is best available, and would make a sensible pick at this juncture.

22. Memphis: F- Ike Diogu
Grizzlies could use a bit of toughness and insurance at PF, so Diogu could go here. They might go with a Euro here and stash him away.

23. Houston: C/F- Channing Frye
There are no guards that interest the Rockets at this point, so they will get a solid big guy who can backup at C & PF.

24. Sacramento: F- Vladimir Veremeenko
Kings draft Vlad and leave him in Russia for a couple of years.

25. Detroit: G- Monta Ellis
Pistons take a punt. Let's see if he works out.

26. Utah (from Dal): F- Angelo Gigli
It's almost become a tradition for Jazz to use a late 1st Rounder each year on a Euro and stash him away or trade his rights to another team.

27. Seattle: F/C- Erazem Lorbek
Never thought Lorbek would squeeze in, but somehow he has. Hmm....

28. San Antonio: F- Ronny Turiaf
This pick makes a lot of sense. Spurs bring in Parker's fellow countryman, who will provide toughness at PF and C.

29. New York (from Pho): F- Wayne Simien
A forgotten senior falls again. And it only seems fitting that the Knicks select at least one undersized PF, to go with the other 5 or 6.

30. Miami: G/F- Mickaël Gelabale
Probably would have taken whichever PF was available between Turiaf and Simien, but both are gone, so Heat go with French swingman with last pick of 1st Round.

Last out: G- Salim Stoudamire


Let me know what you think....

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Postby J@3 on Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:37 pm

The X wrote:1. Atlanta: C/F- Andrew Bogut
Hawks need everything basically, but they can't afford to pass up a big man as good as Andrew Bogut. Jason Collier will only take them so far.


Agree with that pick, they're actually starting some guy with an African name which I can't recall at the moment, but regardless of whether Bogut becomes a star or just a solid player, they can't do much worse with what they've got.

2. Charlotte: G- Chris Paul
They love this guy, and need a PG badly. If Paul doesn't declare, look for them to trade down a couple of pics to grab Deron Williams.


Interesting scenario with Deron Williams... although for some reason I get the feeling they would go for Felton instead of Williams (via trading down). Brevin Knight is doing a great job at PG for them so they can probably afford to let Felton ride the bench for a year and learn the NBA that way rather then just throwing him straight in. But yeah if Paul declares this is where he goes.

3. New Orleans: G- Deron Williams
Desperate for a starting PG, Hornets will pick Williams a little earlier than everyone else expects. Or they will pick best available and trade down for a PG like Williams.


This pick could be either fantastic or useless. Depends really, I honestly think either Claxton or Dickau could develop into a more than solid starting point guard, but if Dickau skips town and signs with someone else this would be a very good pick for them.

4. Utah: C- Martynas Andriuskevicius
With 2 PG's that could really help them both gone by this pick, the Jazz will go big and hope it pays off. I can't see them taking a high schooler like Green.


I don't think they'd take Felton here, even though they're screaming for a point guard. I read one thing that said the Jazz have too many draft picks to really accomodate all of the players, so drafting some Euro's and leaving them there to develop is a good idea I think.

5. Golden State: F- Tiago Splitter
Looks like the Warriors have given up on Dunleavy Jr with this pick. Splitter's a Gasol-like talent at PF who could end up playing a little bit as a big 3.


Interesting one, people either love or hate Splitter. If I were in there position I'd try to take an American player instead, someone who's already kind of proven in college at least. There's such a danger these days with taking Euro's, especially when you're an up and coming team like Golden State who might just need that 1 more player to put them over the top.

6. Portland: G/F- Gerald Green
Trailblazers won't be able to contain themselves if high schooler Green is still on the board at 6. It's either Green or Taft here.


This is just inevitable isn't it. Although Green's stock rose significantly after that all star game thing he played in.

7. Milwaukee: F/C- Fran Vazquez
Bucks need a big and they will prefer to take a punt on the athletic Vazquez over the inconsistent Taft.


I like this one, although personally I think alot depends on Michael Redd. If he won't re-sign (which is unlikely) they'll need another guy to step up and fill his spot. That being said, Joe Johnson's a free agent too.

8. Toronto: F- Nemanja Aleksandrov
Not what Raptors fans were hoping for. He needs a lot of time.


He does indeed. I guess if they can get rid of Jalen Rose this is a smart pick, when you're rebuilding and in a stage of complete uselessness like Toronto is, having a project with LOADS of potential potential (the potential to be a potentially amazing player) isn't such a bad thing.

9. New York: G- Raymond Felton
I'm making a bold prediction that the Knicks, for once will not pick another PF. Meet the Knicks' new starting PG.


That is a bold prediction... I just can't see it happening though. I'm hoping they pick a C or a shooting guard who isn't Jamal Crawford.

10. LA Clippers: G/F- Antoine Wright
Clippers need backup for Maggette and Simmons at the SG and SF spots. Wright is probably best suited for their needs at this picks.


They have Lionel Chalmers and Quinton Ross coming through the ranks rapidly, I think they'll take a C or a PF here although your pick is the most likely I reckon.

11. New Jersey: F/C- Chris Taft
If Taft falls to them and he pans out, this could be one of the steals of the draft. Although that's two big IFs.


I saw him play heaps of times in his freshman year, I was really really impressed but from what I read he's basically just fallen off. I can't see him falling this far, but I think he should.

12. Orlando: G- Rashad McCants
Magic would have been better served with Antoine Wright, but Magic go with best SG available. Will combine with Nelson and Francis to make a dynamic 3-headed (albeit very small) backcourt rotation.


This is an interesting one... I think they're another team who need a C, this could possibly be a bit too high for McCants to be picked although you never know these days. I have a (horrible) feeling New York could be tempted by him.

13. LA Lakers: G- Jarrett Jack
Lakers need a PG in the worst kind of way. With Kobe bickering with Atkins, a new PG will be running show next season. Jack could be their man.


Yep, if the Lakers take any of the top PG's (Paul, Felton, Jack, Williams) I'll be happy (Y)

14. Toronto (from Phi): F- Danny Granger
Toronto will be frustrated to have missed out on Jack, but they could have taken Felton with their other 1st Round pick. Raptors take best on board, which happens to be do-it-all SF Danny Granger.


I can see them trading this pick but who knows, I don't really know a great deal about Granger.

15. Indiana: F- Joey Graham
With all the injuries that the Pacers seem to have in the frontcourt, the Pacers will pick a forward. It's either Graham or Simien here, but for some reason I think they'll go with Graham.


Another one I'm not overly familiar with, I could see Garcia going here (with Reggie retiring and all), that'd be my own personal preference anyways.

16. Minnesota: C/F- Johan Petro
T'wolves need a new SF, but they figure Petro will at the very least, be an upgrade over the Kandi Man.


I really like the sounds of this guy, with him and Eddie coming off the bench it could be great for Minnesota, although I think Nate Robinson would be an upgrade over Olowokandi at C... anyone with a pulse really.

17. Charlotte (from Cle): F- Hakim Warrick
Bobcats seem to love their stringy, athletes and Hakim is one of the best you'll find. Nice pick at this spot.


I can see this one happening too. Although they're not exactly short of forwards, and this Matt Carroll guy (I think that's his name) looks pretty promising so who knows, they could go for a backup for Primoz maybe.

18. Phoenix (from Chi): G- Francisco Garcia
You might think it's a stretch to have Garcia this high, but with a strong NCAA tourney and good workouts, he could move this high. Garcia could easily fit into the Suns' playing style, and the fact that he can play anywhere from the 1 through to 3 means his versatility will suit the Suns when they want to run different lineups at opponents.


I think this is a great pick, but to be honest I'd want to see them trade this pick and look into the late first round/second round for a playmaking PG.

19. Boston: F- Charlie Villanueva
Forward with potential who can play anywhere in the frontcourt. Other players that could fall to the C's are Rudy Fernandez, Joey Graham or Kennedy Winston.


I really really like this pick for them. I don't think Fernandez or Winston are right for the C's with Delonte West and Tony Allen hanging around, not to mention Paul Pierce. I think Ricky Davis will be gone at some point before the season starts, nice prediction with this one.

20. Denver (from Was): G- Rudy Fernandez
Nuggets have 2 consecutive picks, so they'll use one of them on a foreigner who they'll probably leave in Europe for a season or two. Fernandez is a combo guard who could help the Nuggets team a year or two from now.


I'm a big fan of Fernandez, he really impressed me in the Olympics aswell. He doesn't need to be left overseas to be honest but that's always an option for them.

21. Denver: G- Kennedy Winston
Nuggets really need a 2. Winston is best available, and would make a sensible pick at this juncture.


More than sensible, this would be a fantastic pick. It's basically what they need at SG.

22. Memphis: F- Ike Diogu
Grizzlies could use a bit of toughness and insurance at PF, so Diogu could go here. They might go with a Euro here and stash him away.


He'd fit in nicely, but I agree with them going for a Euro. Specifically, I think they could go for Roko-Leni Ukic. Stacks of potential, he's also a tall PG and would be nice insurance for their current PG situation.

23. Houston: C/F- Channing Frye
There are no guards that interest the Rockets at this point, so they will get a solid big guy who can backup at C & PF.


I like this one too, although I think Shelden Williams will be gone by this point... he'd also be a good pick for them. An interesting one too, considering they'd go from a 7'5 C to a 6'9 one.

24. Sacramento: F- Vladimir Veremeenko
Kings draft Vlad and leave him in Russia for a couple of years.


Never heard of him, but I'd be going for a small forward of some form.

25. Detroit: G- Monta Ellis
Pistons take a punt. Let's see if he works out.


I could definitely see Ronny Turiaf going here. I think he'd fit right in with Detroit.

26. Utah (from Dal): F- Angelo Gigli
It's almost become a tradition for Jazz to use a late 1st Rounder each year on a Euro and stash him away or trade his rights to another team.


Yeah mroe than likely, there's a fair few Euro prospects for them to chose from aswell.

27. Seattle: F/C- Erazem Lorbek
Never thought Lorbek would squeeze in, but somehow he has. Hmm....


I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that Stoudamire would be nice for Seattle. He can shoot the lights out (like most of the guards on that team) and he'd be backing up Allen, Murray etc so he wouldn't really have room to kill the team just yet.

28. San Antonio: F- Ronny Turiaf
This pick makes a lot of sense. Spurs bring in Parker's fellow countryman, who will provide toughness at PF and C.


It makes sense, but I'm hoping he's gone before now. The Spurs are just picking for backup purposes really, they're so solid virtually everywhere. Bringing in a European big man might be a good option.

29. New York (from Pho): F- Wayne Simien
A forgotten senior falls again. And it only seems fitting that the Knicks select at least one undersized PF, to go with the other 5 or 6.


Lol they could always just sign Lonny Baxter. May aswell draft a Euro and hope for the best I reckon. Not Lampe this time. Or Julius Hodge :lol:

30. Miami: G/F- Mickaël Gelabale
Probably would have taken whichever PF was available between Turiaf and Simien, but both are gone, so Heat go with French swingman with last pick of 1st Round.


Andray Blatche is one to consider for them. A decent C with some potential out of high school, and who better to learn from than that fat guy they have playing C right now.

Last out: G- Salim Stoudamire


For mine it'll be Nate Robinson or Julius Hodge... probably Hodge, if he can carry his team further in the NCAA.

I didn't set out to comment on every pick, but I get carried away when it comes to the draft :oops:
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Postby The X on Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:57 am

nice analysis :D

as for a few names like Shelden Williams of Duke, I'm expecting him, like most Dukies, to go back for his senior season....if he declared he'd probably be in the 10-15 range I'd say....scouts are high on him....

I also didn't include Roko-Ukic in there as I'm figuring with the impending age limit his agent might hold off....if he's in, he's in the early 20s....

I've got a feeling I've got the PG's been taken too high....teams always take big men higher than they should go and PG's always seem to slide....every draft....that's why I'd probably expect Paul in top 3, Deron Williams in 4-8 range, Felton in the 8-14 range, Jack in the 12-21 range, Fernandez in the 18-25 range, and so on....I guess it's the same reason why Jameer Nelson dropped all the way to 20, and guys like Aruajo went at 8, and Swift went in lottery :roll:

and as always, it's just version 1....I'll probably do one after draft lottery and then just prior to draft (Y) but is good to see that you like some of my picks (Y)

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probably Hodge, if he can carry his team further in the NCAA.

The NC State Wolfpack have already been knocked out of Tourney. They got knocked out by Wisconsin in the Sweet 16.

As for Stoudamire, I actually do think he'll go in the 1st Round....just ran out of room for him....you could probably throw out Lorbek or something and pop him in there....
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Postby beau_boy04 on Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:21 am

Where's Chcago pick? no pick in the first round? :shock:
BTW I heard that Chicago might trade some players to get the 1st pick from Atlanta. Have you guys anything about this?
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Postby GloveGuy on Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:15 am

For those who don't know, John Gilchrist will be testing the draft waters this summer -- pretty much this as one of the strongest point guard drafts in recent history. He would've been an automatic first rounder, possibly lottery, had he entered last year, due to his legendary ACC Tournament performance.

But this year has been up and down for him. His attitude problems have really shown and he's had public confrontations with coach, Gary Williams. Not to mention the fact that Maryland missed the NCAAs, he's gonna have to do well to get that guaranteed contract.

He's arguably the strongest PG in the draft, and has done really well against Felton, Jack, Paul, and Ewing. An NBA comparison of Stephon Marbury would do him right.
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Postby J@3 on Sun Apr 03, 2005 1:18 pm

The NC State Wolfpack have already been knocked out of Tourney. They got knocked out by Wisconsin in the Sweet 16.


Oh lol, I stopped paying attention when Utah got knocked out.
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Postby Rip32 on Sun Apr 03, 2005 1:25 pm

Oh lol, I stopped paying attention when Utah got knocked out.


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Postby J@3 on Sun Apr 03, 2005 1:47 pm

I'm Australian, we don't exactly get many star basketballers these days.
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Postby air gordon on Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:58 pm

Sit wrote:Strengths: He can move very well for his size.. good footwork... got range on his jumper... very underrated passer... got a few low post moves and a little bit of a hook shot... smart player too and his work ethic is huge...

Weaknesses: He's not a very strong player and will prob get harrased in the post by bigger guys like Shaq... Not an athlete- i think he will play about 32 mpg in the NBA... lacks defensive intensity... will struggle against huys who hold him in check...
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i was :lol: when i read this. everyone gets harassed by shaq in the post. :lol:
sorry just had to point that out. great thread so far

wow... great trade by john paxson with the suns: i'd much rather have luol deng then whatever the suns will get with the 18th pick :wink:
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Postby Fresh8 on Sun Apr 03, 2005 5:20 pm

That is true... Shaq was the only guy that came to mind though... -_-"
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Postby Indy on Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:47 am

beau_boy04 wrote:Where's Chcago pick? no pick in the first round? :shock:


Chicago traded their first round pick.
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Postby The X on Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:43 am

EDIT: I put this in this thread as I believe it's got some correlation to the draftees :wink:

doing final dbf editing for draftees in my dynasty and just need you guys to point me in right direction....will list player, right-or-left handed and potential....haven't seen a lot of them play, so am not sure....

Andrew Bogut, right-handed, Good potential
Marvin Williams, right-handed, Excellent potential
Martynas Andriuskevicius, right-handed, Excellent potential
Fran Vazquez, right-handed, Good potential
Chris Taft, right-handed, Good potential
Gerald Green, right-handed, Excellent potential
Danny Granger, right-handed, Average potential
Johan Petro, right-haned, Good potential
Antoine Wright, right-handed, Good potential
Joey Graham, right-handed, Average potential
Wayne Simien, right-handed, Limited potential
Charlie Villanueva, right-handed, Good potential
Hakim Warrick, right-handed, Good potential
Kennedy Winston, right-handed, Good potential
Ronny Turiaf, right-handed, Average potential
Rudy Fernandez, right-handed, Good potential
Vladimir Veremeenko, right-handed, Limited potential
Francisco Garcia, right-handed, Limited potential
Salim Stoudamire, left-handed, Average potential
Channing Frye, right-handed, Limited potential
Erazem Lorbek, right-handed, Very limited potential
Angelo Gigli, right-handed, Limited potential
Nate Robinson, right-handed, Good potential
Mikael Gelabale, right-handed, Good potential
Daniel Ewing, right-handed, Limited potential
Dijon Thompson, right-handed, Limited potential
Luke Schenscher, right-handed, Average potential
Julius Hodge, right-handed, Average potential
David Lee, right-handed, Limited potential
Stefano Mancinelli, left-handed, Good potential
Jawad Williams, right-handed, Average potential
Donell Taylor, right-handed, Average potential
Luther Head, right-handed, Limited potential
BJ Elder, right-handed, Limited potential
Filiberto Rivera, right-handed, Limited potential
Alan Anderson, right-handed, Good potential
Sean Banks, right-handed, Good potential
Travis Diener, right-handed, Limited potential
Lawrence Roberts, right-handed, Limited potential
Josh Pace, right-handed, Limited potential
Uros Slokar, right-handed, Very limited potential
Jason Maxiell, right-handed, Limited potential
Axel Hervelle, right-handed, Limited potential
Chevron Troutman, right-handed, Limited potential
Sharrod Ford, right-handed, Limited potential
Isma'il Muhammad, right-handed, Average potential
Milan Majstrovic, right-handed, Very limited potential
Eddie Basden, right-handed, Average potential
Chris Thomas, right-handed, Very limited potential
Moussa Badiane, right-handed, Good potential
Deng Gai, right-handed, Good potential
Aaron Miles, right-handed, Very limited potential
Taylor Coppenrath, right-handed, Very limited potential

and a couple of Euros....
Misan Nikagbatse, right-handed, Average potential
Sarunas Jaskevicius, right-handed, Very limited potential
Luis Scola, right-handed, Average potential


I know I've overstated quite a few of the potentials....just need opinions of some of you guys to get it right....also, if there's any lefties in there, please let me know
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Postby Fresh8 on Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:50 am

It looks good to me.. even though the potentials are a bit too many goods and averages to my liking...
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Postby SkipToMy_Lou on Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:56 am

Thanks X I needed what hand the draftees where (Y)
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Postby The X on Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:57 am

yeah, especially at the top of the draft....any suggestions?

and as for you other guys, indy, gloveguy, the college experts....maybe some Euro posters....all opinions help (Y)


EDIT: Skip, I still don't know what hand a lot of them are....just Stoudamire and that Euro 2nd Rounder....put everyone else as right-handers until notified that they aren't.... :wink:
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Postby SkipToMy_Lou on Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:59 am

Oh ok lol, can someone help out?
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Postby Fresh8 on Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:00 pm

Andrew Bogut, right-handed, Average potential
Marvin Williams, right-handed, Good potential
Martynas Andriuskevicius, right-handed, Excellent potential
Fran Vazquez, right-handed, Average potential
Chris Taft, right-handed, Average potential
Gerald Green, right-handed, Excellent potential
Danny Granger, right-handed, Average potential
Johan Petro, right-haned, Limited potential - Seriously.. i reakon hes not gonna improve much lol
Antoine Wright, right-handed, Good potential
Joey Graham, right-handed, Average potential
Wayne Simien, right-handed, Limited potential
Charlie Villanueva, right-handed, Good potential
Hakim Warrick, right-handed, Average potential
Kennedy Winston, right-handed, Good potential
Ronny Turiaf, right-handed, Average potential
Rudy Fernandez, right-handed, Limited potential
Vladimir Veremeenko, right-handed, Limited potential
Francisco Garcia, right-handed, Very Limited potential
Salim Stoudamire, left-handed, Average potential
Channing Frye, right-handed, Average potential
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Postby misow on Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:08 pm

The X, that very helpful.
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