New Dynasty mode in 2006

[wusong03]

dynasty is getting boring. i got a idea for dynasty mode.

my idea is to add a new mode in dynasty. the new mode is to play dynasty with a player not a gm. for example i chose kobe as my player in dynasty mode. then, i can use kobe to play rather play in the game, training his shooting ability, workout, draft the rookies, or give gm some advice to trade other player.

if i use someone like Medvedenko, i can still play in the game and train his skills but i may not able to tell gm to trade someone else becasue he is not good enough. gm wont listen to them. if Medvedenko (me) work hard to become a good player, he may have the chance to trade someone.

[wusong03]

godly

[COOLmac©]

good idea. wont play in that mode though. but to others it might be cool for them.

[dsigns]

I want them to make a mode like the old (and maybe new, but I havent played the new) Madden. Where you create your own player and you have to do training drills to get his stats up then get drafted...etc.

[killerht]

What I always wanted was instead of playing as a team in dynasty mode have a player mode where you take the role of a player and are signed traded, decide what you wan to do, and just follow his career, and have him negotiate his (your) contracts, etc. Decide when you want to retire, sit out games, practices, ask for redicilous amount of money, make coments about your team, team mates, coaches, refs, etc.

You know, you are the player and everything revolves around you. You make no GM or any of that kind of decisisions.

Thats a great mode, for me anyways.

[Donte Thomas]

i like this idea...because the salary cap as a gm is like stressing me owt....so i like this idea .. playing as a player makes it like...u can go to the gm ask for the contract resignationation if thats a werd... or if they dont liek it..go to other teams...so yea i like this.

[T-Comm55]

Your idea is great but I would also like to have the option of playing as a GM

[c_cryder15]

dynasty is getting boring. i got a idea for dynasty mode.

my idea is to add a new mode in dynasty. the new mode is to play dynasty with a player not a gm. for example i chose kobe as my player in dynasty mode. then, i can use kobe to play rather play in the game, training his shooting ability, workout, draft the rookies, or give gm some advice to trade other player.

if i use someone like Medvedenko, i can still play in the game and train his skills but i may not able to tell gm to trade someone else becasue he is not good enough. gm wont listen to them. if Medvedenko (me) work hard to become a good player, he may have the chance to trade someone.

I like this idea because then if u get traded you could go with that one player and not have to be stuck with your old team

[Fitzy]

I like the idea too. Maybe If we keep the existing dynasty mode and add this new version

[Andrew]

I'm not a huge fan of this idea, I prefer the ability to take control of a team. If they include a mode like this (which isn't really practical and certainly shouldn't be added before fixing a few issues with the current Dynasty mode), I don't want to see it replace what we already have.

[T-Comm55]

I like this idea this should be called be the career mode and this should be offered along with the dynasty mode

[Null17]

as long as they still improve on the current dynasty mode i won't mind. besides that's kinda like what i'm doing in my dynasty. i just play with my character and use player lock on him. then i let the cpu play when i'm benched.

[I'veGotWorms]

You should have 2 modes of Dynasty...The regular GM one and the player dynasty

[LegoTP]

as long as they still improve on the current dynasty mode i won't mind. besides that's kinda like what i'm doing in my dynasty. i just play with my character and use player lock on him. then i let the cpu play when i'm benched.

Yeah I agree with you if they improve the dynasty mode I won't mind at all...

[c_cryder15]

I'm not a huge fan of this idea, I prefer the ability to take control of a team. If they include a mode like this (which isn't really practical and certainly shouldn't be added before fixing a few issues with the current Dynasty mode), I don't want to see it replace what we already have.

Dont u think it would be cool to be able to be you and if you get traded you can go with that team instead of having to start over. You would have to work for a contract and work out with teams to see who would want u.....that would be the best

[Andrew]

I'm more interested in controlling the whole team, making those decisions. I don't really want to sit around watching games because I'm only controlling one player who is only getting five minutes a game. I just think there'd be a lot of sitting around watching, which would get very boring after a while. Such a mode is not as practical as it sounds, especially given the current state of the Player Lock mode that's already in the game.

[End Boss]

In the MVP series you can go into a game play a bit sim a bit play a bit, etc. So I assume that that would be a non issue if the mode was done properly. I've been a strong supporter of the career mode idea for years. For anyone who plays basketball in real life you know that you've got to work your ass off to stay competitive, and I'm not talking about the physical element, I'm referrng to mental agility. The nba live series has been doing high quality team basketball for years, but I don't think they've even nearly captured the individual element of the game.

Andrew, have you ever played nba live with 4 or more players on the same team. It is gaming heaven my friend. I hope that a career mode will ultimately extend to online leagues which I still hold to be basketball gaming nirvana, and if EA doesn't do it then I will.

[Andrew]

I don't play many human vs human games or human and human vs CPU games these days. I'm not totally against the idea, but I'm not all that keen for it. I certainly don't want it to replace the Dynasty Mode we've already got.

And the key phrase here is "if it's done properly". I don't think adding it would be a straightforward as it sounds. I think it's a better idea to continue to improve and build upon what's in the game when there is room for improvement (as there is with the current Dynasty) before adding a huge, brand new feature like a Career mode.

[End Boss]

So you're content to buy a game year in year out that is an iteration or mild improvement over it's predecessors. You're happy to continue buying an NBA simulation that in no way represents (player lock is feeble at best) the actual individual experience of being in the NBA or playing basketball for that matter. I'm sorry but you clearly have no vision. And if EA continues to have no vision then they will ultimately lose their loyal fan base to a company that can deliver features that are so obvious it's criminal that they have not been implemented in roughly 2 decades of nba simulations.

[J@3]

I think this could get very boring very quickly. Anyone tried ESPN 2K5's 24/7 mode? Cool for about 5 minutes then it blows. As far as the actual improvement for NBA Live, there are alot more things they could do than just add one new novelty mode.

[Fitzy]

Yeh Jae is right

[T-Comm55]

And again it would be good if they try something different.

[Andrew]

So you're content to buy a game year in year out that is an iteration or mild improvement over it's predecessors. You're happy to continue buying an NBA simulation that in no way represents (player lock is feeble at best) the actual individual experience of being in the NBA or playing basketball for that matter.

That's not what I said; stop putting words in my mouth. As I've said a couple of times now, I prefer the total package - the idea of Dynasty Mode is an extension of the original season mode: the ability to take control of a team and play multiple roles; GM, head coach, star player, 12th man, you control it all. Is that not an NBA simulation?

I'm sorry but you clearly have no vision.

So because I don't agree with your point of view, I "clearly have no vision"? I'm sorry, but that sounds a lot more close minded than the point I was trying to make.

And if EA continues to have no vision then they will ultimately lose their loyal fan base to a company that can deliver features that are so obvious it's criminal that they have not been implemented in roughly 2 decades of nba simulations.

Agreed. But when you look at Wishlists past and take a look at the things that have been implemented, to say that EA has not made some huge improvements is quite an unfair statement. Also, I'd rather see them improve and fix aspects of the current modes - there's so much more that can be done with what's in the game already - rather than spending time on a brand new feature that will take up a lot of the production time and needs to be implemented properly for it to be any good. Dynasty Mode isn't perfect right now, but it does deliver a range of things we've been asking for since NBA Live 98.

It's a situation that EA can't win, really. If they go ahead and implement something like ESPN's 24/7 Mode, they'll be criticised for adding a new mode when there's so much they can do with Dynasty Mode with the Madden franchise a common example of what can be done with such a feature. If they don't add something brand new but choose to expand and continue to develop the current modes, they'll be blasted for being stale and having no vision.

Please don't tell me I don't have any vision simply because I enjoy the game differently to you and would rather see the current Dynasty Mode live up to its potential before time is spent on a new mode I'm not really interested in.

I never said I wouldn't buy NBA Live if it featured a single player career mode, though if it replaced regular Dynasty/Season mode I would consider it since to me that's the heart of the game. I'm sure I'd give it a go if it was added. But I don't see why it should replace a system that has been the backbone of the game, indeed many sports game for a number of years, especially when that feature is so popular.

[mortalsoul3]

Well said, Andrew.

You're pointing out the obvious:

1) such a single-player-control career feature would be madden-ingly [sic] problematic to implement from a programmatic standpoint if added to the current list of user options.

2) Such a feature certainly should not replace Dynasty/Franchise as Live Users know it.

3) thus, reasonably, one would think that EA's time & capital might be more productively spent continuing to evolve the current gaming options. Particularly now that a good deal of their marketing expenditures should be absorbed by ESPN in this new video game liscensing/corporate partnership agreement.

4) using the player-lock option -- even granting its kinks -- to affect some of the desired options referenced in this thread seems a creative, potentially satisfying solution.


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[Goldberg]

Isn't basketball a team sport? Kobe hasn't shown that often enough this year?

I did that with Live 2003, I created a player with my name and looks and high ratings, then I added him to a bad team - which I cleaned the talent beforehand - and played it. Watching the Lakers this year reminded me of that dynasty I did 2 years ago.

Also that experience in 2003, was close to what the first post in this thread mentioned. Only in Live 2003, you could easily change GM jobs so if you traded 'yourself' to another team, you could during offseason change GM team also and then manage the new team - and so follow the player and continue to play with that player.

So I would recommend to the person who initiated this thread to look into trying this and using something called 'immagination' when it comes to contract negotiation and self-player trades. It worked for me and I had a blast!

Thats until I learned that in society - its always about working with other people in harmony... and so this self-player option does not appeal to me anymore.