Is Ben Wallace still the best Defensive Player of the NBA?

by **beau_boy04** on Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:47 am

What do you guys think?

by **Doobie** on Mon Mar 28, 2005 9:49 am

With AK-47 out for the rest of the season i have to say yes it is him , TD coudl've been the closest thing too him but hes injured too , so i give it to Big Ben.

Bluesky · by **Andrew** on Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:01 am

If he wins the award it will almost be a "by default" selection. He's still got nice numbers but they aren't quite as impressive as they were in his back to back DPOY seasons.

by **XianeX** on Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:00 pm

No, that title goes to none other than Ron Artest.

by **Keo** on Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:19 pm

Ya but if u're gonna count Kirilenko and Duncan out cause they're not currently active then Artest is out too. Therefore it's all Ben right now...

by **XianeX** on Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:48 pm

c-webbsixers wrote:Ya but if u're gonna count Kirilenko and Duncan out cause they're not currently active then Artest is out too. Therefore it's all Ben right now...

The thread is about the best defensive player not who will win the defensive player of the year award.

by **NNpF** on Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:20 pm

XianeX wrote:
c-webbsixers wrote:Ya but if u're gonna count Kirilenko and Duncan out cause they're not currently active then Artest is out too. Therefore it's all Ben right now...

The thread is about the best defensive player not who will win the defensive player of the year award.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the Defensive Player of the Year Award usually go to the best defensive player?

At the beginning of the season Kirilenko was a beast on defense, but now with pretty much all the other "nominees" being injured I would have to say it is Ben Wallace.

by **Matt** on Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:22 pm

Ben Wallace will probably claim it again.....as far as his numbers go, the presence of Rasheed have something to do with that

by **Ataraxia** on Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:34 pm

what about Shawn Marion?
U cant count him out.

Ranks #4 in the NBA in Steals Per Game(2.07)
Ranks #4 in the NBA in Rebounds Per Game(11.3)
Ranks #3 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds Per Game(8.3
Ranks #2 in the NBA in Steals(141.0)

He also is averaging 1.4 BPG.

Plus he can play both perimiter and interior defense, The Beast spends his time playing interior D.

by **j.23** on Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:42 pm

larry hughes, dwyane wade, shawn marion and lebron james have my vote for DPOY

by **Keo** on Tue Mar 29, 2005 1:27 am

I don't see any of them for DPOY... Marion's a stretch but the rest, they're good but not DPOY material.

by **Dogg** on Tue Mar 29, 2005 1:53 am

Prince

by **Ataraxia** on Tue Mar 29, 2005 1:54 am

c-webbsixers wrote:I don't see any of them for DPOY... Marion's a stretch but the rest, they're good but not DPOY material.

Chris Webber maybe.

by **Keo** on Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:01 am

NJ wrote:
c-webbsixers wrote:I don't see any of them for DPOY... Marion's a stretch but the rest, they're good but not DPOY material.

Chris Webber maybe.

Can't argue with that :wink:

sac-1 probably thinks the same... :lol:

by **fgrep15** on Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:15 am

As someone who watches the Wizards, Hughes is a good defender, but to tell the truth, he's not a DPOY type player, he's not a shut down defender, or someone who's defensive presence changes the whole face of the teams defense. The biggest impact defender on the Wizards is actually Brendan Haywood.

I don't think Ben is the best defensive player, while he's very good, his man to man defense has never been better than just above average. He's a great help defender, and rebound, but one on one, he's no an elite defender. Duncan is overall a better defender because he can block shots, and also play very good man to man defense.

by **Matt** on Tue Mar 29, 2005 3:03 am

whilst i agree on that, Ben Wallace changes the face of the entire game. Whereas a guy like Artest shuts down 1 player, Wallace affects all 5. He's not bad on the perimeter either with the pick & roll D.

So in essence, he may not be the best defensive player but his defense has most impact.

by **air gordon** on Tue Mar 29, 2005 6:55 am

its matter of preference..
who has more impact on a game: a player like ben wallace or a player like artest who can shut down 4 positions?

histrorically, voters have had a bias towards big men

by **Full Surface** on Tue Mar 29, 2005 6:59 am

I'm pretty sure Ben Wallace will win, just because voters are going to favor him.

Larry Hughes should be considered the defensive player of the year. He gets around 3 steals per game and has a natural instinct.

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