BIBLICAL debates 2005

by **bullsfan009** on Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:14 am

Are you saying it's Jesus? But that would count as part of the Trinity, right?

Who else could it be? I dunno... :eh:

by **PAMPERS** on Fri Feb 25, 2005 3:30 pm

My Dog. I know this COOLmac guy! You know a.k.a The Mask Avenger Cool or TMAcool! and his other names MacDOcool, the COOLmactrix. I have been playing with that guy online in starcraft ages ago and counterstrike. He is the best damn starcraft player I ever met in the net. I didn't know he is into basketball games. he also used to have forums back then when he was an admin or something. hey Mr. Ryan Mac if you are the COOlmac I know from before PM me ok.where the hell have you been? you seem to be famous around here. looks like you're bashing with religion again with youngsters. You never grow up. Its me ABUTAKAL. :?:

by **Jona** on Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:59 am

Oh my God!!!!
Long lost friends reunited!!!
Isn't this beautiful??

by **COOLmac©** on Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:04 pm

Oh my God!!!!
Long lost friends reunited!!!
Isn't this beautiful??

actually he's no friend of mine. just another name in online gaming which i played against. yes he does brings back memories though.like when he hack into my friend's desktop and started to move the mouse by itself(ghostly trick but it is so easy now.)i forgot this guys name but i did PM him. he neever PM me back. i hope he didn't get banned or anything

:arrow:

to PAMPERS.welcome to the forums. remember my old forums? i got a new one which i admin now. http://coolmac2.proboards41.com this forums are run by many MODS so be warry of them. they banned me once for some reasons but they let others hang around much longer. you won't have any probs here if you view your opinions out to the point in making a lot of these kids upset at you. i'm not that famous here lets just say infamous maybe but i seem to get into Jae's awards every then and now and imagine they even track down how many posts i made each day. even my IP's which can't be real since the company who provides us with internet access has multi IP in there hand and our servers here are equip with such firewalls even a matrix like NEO can't get to me(even you hacker)

oh well i have been in a long trip. welcome back jona. great post about your nba game experience

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Are you saying it's Jesus? But that would count as part of the Trinity, right?

Who else could it be? I dunno...

well i didn't say it didn't I? nowhere can you read in the post i made that i mention Jesus. but since you are very observant man mr.bullsfan i congratulate you into that. tomorrow after i get plenty of rest(i still got jetlag)i'll post who else is at the creation

but remember this.........in the greek bible.the one written during the time of Christ because that was the dominant language then. the term "brought forth" is the same word as the "begot"
so it answers that whosoever that was brought forth during creation time was also the one that is the only begotten? i hope you guys get it? :mrgreen:

by **COOLmac©** on Wed Mar 02, 2005 12:22 pm

ok on to the series of discussions. first the US in the creation reffering to the words of God really denotes to other beings with Him. we have uncovered one yet i will uncover more.get ready here it comes

the next entity to be with God at the creation can be found in the very pages of Genesis the fisrt chapter and of course quiet funny the second verse:

GEN1:1
in the begininng God created the heaven and the earth.
GEN1:2
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

as you can see the Spirit of God was also there before everything was ever created.. what in the world was the Spirit doing hovering above the waters

PSALMS 104:30
Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth.

that means that God's Spirit was the one responsible for the facelift of the earth.

to pretty sum things up. the beings with God are also eternal beings because even before creation they exist even before TIME exist or created they were already there.

and to make thigns more confusing for you people is the FACT that God Himself has seven(7) spirits :idea:

by **Jona** on Wed Mar 02, 2005 1:45 pm

Religious people say: "God is neither a male nor a female, he is beyond the concept of gender."

Why in heavens name do you say: "Our FATHER who art ...."???
Or call "him" the LORD????

I'd love some answers people!! 8-)

And a nice quote, to finish my post:

Religion is the idol of the mob; it adores everything it does not understand.
Frederick the Great

by **COOLmac©** on Wed Mar 02, 2005 1:52 pm

well the names used like FATHER,Him, His........it all denotes male gender

the female gender exist only after the creation.
all the creatures in the heavens including angels are all referred to be male.

thats a nice quote btw

by **Jona** on Wed Mar 02, 2005 1:55 pm

So God is a man????
He is a MALE??? :?:

by **COOLmac©** on Wed Mar 02, 2005 3:11 pm

yes.........but since this verse say

"no man hath seen God at anytime, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared Him."
John 1:18

this means we have no idea what God looks like yet till the day of judgement adn the new earth and the new heavens when God will dwell alongside us humans.

i know jona is trying to catch me How come God gave birth or begot Jesus....then my answer is the statement of the bible above. i hope it will clear most of his questions about God's gender. (with God as a male giving birth or begot Jesus and all)

by **Jowe** on Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:38 pm

sorry cool mac
but your bible extracting sux.

this is the exact verse in teh bible.

"No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him." - john 1:18

wtf is Hath that u speak of? :lol:

by **COOLmac©** on Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:56 pm

wtf is Hath that u speak of?

wow Jowe reads the bible. (Y)

i didn't know that?
actually i use the KINGJAMES version(not related to lebron in any way)
that's why the old english 8-)

by **Jowe** on Wed Mar 02, 2005 5:10 pm

I went a catholic primary school and catholic private school...

KINGJAMES the patcher? :shock:

.
Well I guess the english bibles haven't arrived in the philippines yet.

by **COOLmac©** on Wed Mar 02, 2005 6:39 pm

they have been here quiet a while now. since the american invasion. but the poeple here stick to their PILIPINO bible and stuff like the catholic bible.
and me? i prefer the kingjames better off than any other versions because those versions create mass confusion to the Words of God. (Y)

by **Mikki** on Wed Mar 02, 2005 6:50 pm

Jowe wrote:Well I guess the english bibles haven't arrived in the philippines yet.

TOOLmac© wrote:they have been here quiet a while now. since the american invasion.

LMAO talk about history. :lol:

by **Jowe** on Wed Mar 02, 2005 6:57 pm

Stop reading the bible, and pick up an english dictionary.

by **Null17** on Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:41 pm

COOLmac© wrote:but the poeple here stick to their PILIPINO bible and stuff like the catholic bible.

how would you know, it's not like you know everyone in the philippines and which version of the bible they use.

i prefer the kingjames better off than any other versions because those versions create mass confusion to the Words of God.

and I don't mean this as a flame because frankly it's gotten old but isn't old english more confusing?

anyway, we mostly use the New American Bible in our school. frankly it's easier to read then stuff with hath in them

by **Strike Freedom** on Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:19 pm

coolmac i wanna know...
what'll happen in the future...
ie, when european union has a leader..
when will usa finish the war at mid east..
when will israel sign the peace deal with palestinian n eu
what will happen if and when God is really coming back..

i wanna know bout what Revelation is talkin bout too..
about the 7 churches in Asia..
bout 7 horns.. 7 horses? 7 lampstands? 7 Eyes?

i'm thrilled to know these things..
plss plss tell me..

by **Jowe** on Wed Mar 02, 2005 10:08 pm

God coming back?
What is he on holidays or something.

by **J@3** on Wed Mar 02, 2005 10:13 pm

SO wrote:coolmac i wanna know...

Coolmac... the ever lasting source of information...

what'll happen in the future...

You'll win a Pulitzer prize for literacy

ie, when european union has a leader..

Oh... Tuesday?

when will usa finish the war at mid east..

When the last one is dead...

when will israel sign the peace deal with palestinian n eu

They did that three weeks ago over tea and biscuits...

what will happen if and when God is really coming back..

He'll kick your ass, seriously he told me... I dunno he sounded mad, you should hide...

i wanna know bout what Revelation is talkin bout too..

You and everyone else who's ever read it

about the 7 churches in Asia..
bout 7 horns.. 7 horses? 7 lampstands? 7 Eyes?

i'm thrilled to know these things..
plss plss tell me..

Shut up.

by **Null17** on Wed Mar 02, 2005 11:20 pm

err...coolmac's a prophet now?

by **PAMPERS** on Thu Mar 03, 2005 12:39 am

He is no prophet but He is a good man. A man of God

by **Jona** on Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:11 am

Why the fuck that does make him good???

The majority of those "men of God" you talk about are nothing but hypocrites that follow very outdated codes of morality and beat themselves up because supposedly there is an omnipotent being in teh sky that has infinite power and knowledge.

You worship what you do not understand, that is human nature. It is that simple. I respect it. (Y)

But don't call Coolmac a "good man" just because he is religious. That's a really misunderstood concept, the one that says "religious man = good man". And especially don't capitalize the He, if you're talking about Coolmac. That is unnecessary.

That would be it... :roll:

by **bullsfan009** on Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:36 am

Yes, I agree with Jona that "religious man" doesn't necessarily equal "good man." The KKK cites the Bible as reasoning for many of their actions- the same with suicide bombers calling on Allah before they kill many innocent people, and also, look at all the Catholic priests that have committed sexual abuse in secret for years, yet every Sunday conducted mass.

A famous Christian leader (I forget his name) once said, "95% of Christians are immature." Also, Jesus constantly criticized his followers and enemies alike for being hypocritical, unfaithful, and decietful.

All of humanity has in common the fact that they are sinners. Every single person who ever lived, except (some people believe) Jesus Christ.

It is something that I've struggled with, while looking for role models to look up to and try to live the way that they have. Take for instance, Martin Luther King, Jr. He was probably the greatest speaker the world has ever seen, he was a preacher, a leader, and his contributions to society in the 20th century are unparalleled to anyone else, at least socially. I have listened to many of his speaches and sermons, read a book on him, and wanted to be like Dr. King. But then, I found out that he had dirt on him: I found a site www.martinlutherking.org that described how he was a womanizer, used prostitutes, and even was doing all this on the night before he was murdered, in the very hotel he was shot at.

I couldn't believe it, didn't want to believe it (especially because many of the people in the forums on the site are white supremists-sounding people), but I checked all over the web, and only to find that it was true.

This is a major reason why I worship Jesus- he was PERFECT. The ultimate role model, the ultimate leader, the ultimate friend. Everyone needs something like that to look up to, to provide inspiration and give them desire and a true feeling of purpose in life.

For everyone else, like MLK, you have to take everything with a grain of salt. Just take the good, and use it for your inspiration. Don't follow the man, follow the message.

AND THE MESSAGE IS THE MESSAGE, NO MATTER WHO IT COMES FROM. SINNERS, HYPOCRITES, WHATEVER.

If you're putting your faith in the people who deliever these messages, you're in for a disapointment. COOLmac is at least trying to give a message, and he's being respectful in the process of everyone. So, show some respect back.

by **cyanide** on Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:41 am

bullsfan009 wrote:This is a major reason why I worship Jesus- he was PERFECT. The ultimate role model, the ultimate leader, the ultimate friend. Everyone needs something like that to look up to, to provide inspiration and give them desire and a true feeling of purpose in life.

For everyone else, like MLK, you have to take everything with a grain of salt. Just take the good, and use it for your inspiration. Don't follow the man, follow the message.

I agree about the message of Jesus, and the fact he has wisdom that is unparalleled in humanity, but I wouldn't say he's perfect (and I won't get into that), but near perfect, or at least the perfect role model for humanity. His teachings are incredibly insightful, and everybody could learn a lot of things from him, that is, if you take Jesus' messages metaphorically rather than literally. By taking it metaphorically, you uncover a rich variety of meaning that is intangible, and these messages reflect the "life giving" actions that we do.

by **Jona** on Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:07 am

Perfection does not exist. 8-)

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