Rookie Swingman Battle

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Rookie Swingman With Biggest Future?

Dorell Wright
2
6%
Josh Smith
5
14%
JR Smith
6
17%
Kirk Snyder
0
No votes
Luol Deng
11
31%
Andre Iguodala
11
31%
 
Total votes : 35

Rookie Swingman Battle

Postby Ataraxia on Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:53 pm

Well 3 potentially star class swingman outta HS got drafted one after the other this year and another 3 College Ballers went a bit before them....but whose gonna be the best in the long run?

Dorell Wright
Comparison : Tracy McGrady

Josh Smith
Comparison : Antawn Jamison

JR Smith
Comparison : Vince Carter

Kirk Snyder
Comparison : Michael Finley

Luol Deng
Comparison : Grant Hill

Andre Iguodala
Comparison : Scottie Pippen
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Postby SkipToMy_Lou on Thu Jan 27, 2005 6:23 pm

Josh Smith, can't write anymore as I've got to go :arrow:

He definetely has a huge future though.
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Postby cklitsie on Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:56 pm

JR Smith, not only he can dunk, he has range too and he is probably the most athletic too. Luol Deng is 2nd for me, he quite an all-round player too.

I like Josh Smith's dunks though, let's hope he'll compete in the dunk contest. Too bad he can't shoot at all.
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Postby fgrep15 on Fri Jan 28, 2005 2:10 am

Josh Smith
Comparison : Antawn Jamison

Who compared him to Jamison because that is a terrible comparison, horrible lol

I think the best future's will go to Andre Iguodala, Luol Deng, and Josh Smith.

My Predictions

Iguodala - He'll average in the range of 18-20 points, 7 rebounds, 5 assists, and 2 steals when he develops, and also be a player who plays very good defense.

Luol Deng - He'll average 18-20 points, 8 rebounds, and 4 assists when he develops, and his length allows him to be pretty good defensively, but he doesn't have the athleticism to become a shut down player. He'll be like a mini-version of Grant Hill.

Josh Smith - He'll average 16 points, 9-10 rebounds, 3 assists, 1.5 steals, and 2 blocks, he'll go into the mold of being like Shawn Marion.

Dorell Wright - He'll average 18 points, 6 rebounds, and 4 assists, as him and Wade dominate the scene as a crazy 1-2 punch at SG and SF. As he get's better they could form a combo that both average 20 PPG.

JR Smith - He'll average 17-20 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists, I don't see him becoming that versatile a player, but he'll be a good scorer. He'll be like a younger Vince, but not as good in terms of all-round game. I don't see him becoming a franchise type player, just a scorer/dunker.

Kirk Snyder - He'll average 11 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists, and will be a defensive guy, or a 6th man type player.
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Postby Mikki on Fri Jan 28, 2005 6:38 am

No Love for Josh Childress. :(
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Postby air gordon on Fri Jan 28, 2005 8:29 am

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he's still crying from gordon making look stupid the other day

at this point, i can only see josh smith having the best opportunity to become a star. only he and harrington seem to be the keepers on that atl team. he should get plenty of minutes and shots to develop his game.

deng and iggy could end up as great role players as long as they stay on their current teams. i can't remember any teammate of iverson making the all start team. maybe iggy can do it once his outside shot gets going. deng probably won't get monster numbers as long as curry, gordon, and hinrich are in chicago.

i've heard some nice things about that wright guy but i haven't seen this guy play yet.
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Postby Drex on Fri Jan 28, 2005 11:03 am

I see Igoudala being a nice all-around player. Rebounds, points, defense, etc.
Josh being a great defensive player, with highlight dunks and stuff like that.
And Deng being a good offensive player, with some defense, but not too much. IMO, Gordon has more future.
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Postby Null17 on Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:27 pm

air gordon wrote:i've heard some nice things about that wright guy but i haven't seen this guy play yet.


well he hasn't played at all i think. check his nba.com profile. no data or something. he's got all these t-mac comparisons everywhere (well actually i've only read one on slam, but the top posts says it too :lol:)
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Postby fgrep15 on Fri Jan 28, 2005 1:06 pm

i've heard some nice things about that wright guy but i haven't seen this guy play yet.

Saw him in Summer League, the thing that seperates him from other high school rookies is that in addition to his athleticism, he has pretty good handles, can create his own shot, and he can also shoot from mid-range well.

He has a good future if he continues to develop.
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Postby Ataraxia on Fri Jan 28, 2005 1:16 pm

fgrep15 wrote:
i've heard some nice things about that wright guy but i haven't seen this guy play yet.

Saw him in Summer League, the thing that seperates him from other high school rookies is that in addition to his athleticism, he has pretty good handles, can create his own shot, and he can also shoot from mid-range well.

He has a good future if he continues to develop.

and if Shaq retires on time. :D
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Postby cklitsie on Fri Jan 28, 2005 5:48 pm

Najira wrote:and if Shaq retires on time. :D
Dorrell Wright is like 6"6-6"7, which makes him more of a SF/PF. :wink:
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Postby fgrep15 on Sat Jan 29, 2005 6:05 am

PF? What? The guy is 6'7 210 lbs, the day he plays PF would be the day everyone on the Heat got injured.
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Postby air gordon on Sat Jan 29, 2005 7:46 am

fgrep15 wrote:
i've heard some nice things about that wright guy but i haven't seen this guy play yet.

Saw him in Summer League, the thing that seperates him from other high school rookies is that in addition to his athleticism, he has pretty good handles, can create his own shot, and he can also shoot from mid-range well.

He has a good future if he continues to develop.

but that's summer league. qyntel woods, khalid el amin, casey jacobsen are all stars there but chumps in the nba. ah well, at least it's something :P
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Postby fgrep15 on Sat Jan 29, 2005 10:09 am

lol I know, but not numbers wise, just how he played, he's not going to be contributing anytime soon though.
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Postby cklitsie on Sat Jan 29, 2005 10:13 am

fgrep15 wrote:PF? What? The guy is 6'7 210 lbs, the day he plays PF would be the day everyone on the Heat got injured.
Thanks for helping me prove my point, he's no where near a center... :lol:
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Postby fgrep15 on Sat Jan 29, 2005 2:06 pm

I think he meant to say if Eddie Jones retires on time, but EJ won't even have to retire, Dorell would probably just take his job.
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Postby Yessie on Sun Jan 30, 2005 2:53 pm

Wright and Smith havents showed me much to make them the next Tmac or Jamison. before i read the 1st post i was already thinking Andre Iguodala
could be to iverson what pippen was the Jordan. i like phillies future but it might have come a little to late iverson is getting to the point were he needs help if he wants to stay healthy and have a good career past 30 8-)
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Postby NNpF on Sun Jan 30, 2005 3:58 pm

I'm liking J.R. Smith, he is an exciting player to watch, but I have to go with Andre Iguodala. Even though I havn't really seen any of these rookies play to much, what I've seen with Iguodala has impressed me.

But in all honesty, not too many of these player have really done anything special for their teams. But I think a lot of them will in the future.
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Postby Liv_a_Life on Sun Jan 30, 2005 11:45 pm

voted for luol deng, but in general its a tough call, they all have quite a potential.

iguodala has impressed me as well, though ive seen him play just once.
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Postby Ataraxia on Mon Jan 31, 2005 11:21 am

cklitsie wrote:
Najira wrote:and if Shaq retires on time. :D
Dorrell Wright is like 6"6-6"7, which makes him more of a SF/PF. :wink:

I know that :lol:......but Dorell wont get to play freely with Shaq sharing the ball with his newly adopted child Dwyane Wade O'Neal. :)
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Postby Ruff Ryder on Mon Jan 31, 2005 12:22 pm

fgrep15 wrote:PF? What? The guy is 6'7 210 lbs, the day he plays PF would be the day everyone on the Heat got injured.

Or the day they add Nash at pg, wade at sg, Joe Johnson at SF, Dorell Wright at PF and Haslem at C. :cool:

Too bad Dorrell hasn't gotten any playing time this year.

You also left out Tony Allen. He's been throwing down some monster jams lately.
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Postby Ataraxia on Mon Jan 31, 2005 12:43 pm

true true....but hes not gotten alot of hype unlike the above....no one expects/expected too much from him....

n is it like the first time u changed your NLSC name ruff?? :o
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Postby Ruff Ryder on Mon Jan 31, 2005 12:48 pm

Allen looks like another Desmond Mason or something. From the same school anyway.

And nope, it's not the 1st time I changed my name. It used to be ruffryder8, then Ruff Ryder, now Remy D.
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Postby fgrep15 on Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:26 pm

Allen isn't a swingman, he's a SG, swingmen are SG/SF's. Allen reminds me of a 6th man type guy, defensive guy who comes in and sparks the team, scores some baskets, harreses the other team on defense, hit's some shots, get's some dunks, then goes back to chill...
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Postby Ruff Ryder on Tue Feb 01, 2005 12:30 pm

fgrep15 wrote:Allen isn't a swingman, he's a SG, swingmen are SG/SF's.

And what is the difference? If you're saying SF as a secondary position, is JR Smith really a swingman then? I'm sure Allen could play SF too. SG and SF in essence are pretty much the same.
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