K Brown??? where is he?

[The GOAT]

MJ has a reputation of being tough and Kwame should have known that before challenging him to a 1 on 1 match and then taunting him. That's besides the fact that he is the best player that ever played the game.

You're either ignorant or just plain ignorant.

(Don't anyone bring up Homer in this or I will shoot you.)

[Jackal]

Still doesn't give him the right to humiliate another player. Especially not one that's been scrutinised from all sides.

It's like being the rich girl at school, because you're rich, gives you the right to pick on anyone? Nopes, not correct.

[The GOAT]

If you were a rich girl at school and you picked on someone for no reason, that would be wrong. If you were Michael Jordan and you picked a fight with Kwame Brown out of no wher, that would be wrong. But that is not what happened. Kwame started taunting Jordan as soon as the game started, and Jordan, being Jordan and taking basketball so seriously, took it seriously. Then, living up to his word, he knocked Brown on his ass and schooled him.

[Matthew]

Look at the other players on the team and then you'll know why, anyways, hate on him all you want, but the team still misses this:

If only Kwame didn't give me the opportunity to criticise him. He might be one of the biggest busts in league history...

Bullshit. Sure, he's MJ, all respect and everything but humiliating the kid can't be seen as a good thing. You're either ignorant or just plain ignorant.

Nobody said it was a good thing, well at least i didnt. But it shouldn't be an excuse for kwame. He should grow up...

Still doesn't give him the right to humiliate another player. Especially not one that's been scrutinised from all sides.

Kwame didn't get scrutinised from all sides. If it was a one on one game and jordan was trash talking, get over it. Shaq told Matt geiger to fuck off in the finals, does that mean shaq's in the wrong? Absolutely not.

[Jackal]

Nobody said it was a good thing, well at least i didnt. But it shouldn't be an excuse for kwame. He should grow up...

You didn't say it was a good thing. I never said you did say it was a good thing. My comment was mainly directed towards The G.O.A.T.

Kwame Brown was a stuck-up asshole that never lived up to expectations.

From that comment he almost seems supportive of MJ for humiliating the kid because "he never lived up to his expectations". What fucking expectations? We had never heard of him before, suddenly MJ came along & decided to draft him at number one. We had no damn expectations, MJ did. MJ made the wrong decision, then he kept on badgering the kid. Where's the fairness in that? He fucks up & then fucks the kid over. Yay!

Kwame didn't get scrutinised from all sides.

Yes he did. Not only was he being called a flaming faggot by MJ but the media & fans were all over him for sucking. OMG! First pick and he sucks, wtf!1/?! MJ picked you, live up to the expectations bitch.

That's what I called being scrutinised.

If it was a one on one game and jordan was trash talking, get over it. Shaq told Matt geiger to fuck off in the finals, does that mean shaq's in the wrong? Absolutely not.

It's not only once MJ's picked on Brown, we've heard of the others things he's done. Let's not act as if Brown's just a big cry baby. Even if he is, MJ brought it onto himself, he had all the faith he could handle Brown, now suddenly when he found out he couldn't handle him, he's a flaming faggot.

Pff, MJ's great and all but he fucked up.

Who cares about what Shaq said to Matt? Why are we even talking bout those two?

[Full Surface]

Michael Jordan had dumb several dumb things as a part of the front office. He traded away Rip Hamilton and drafted Kwame Brown (a high schooler, who had no expectations close to LeBron James) with the first pick.

[matmat8]

Michael Jordan had dumb several dumb things as a part of the front office. He traded away Rip Hamilton and drafted Kwame Brown (a high schooler, who had no expectations close to LeBron James) with the first pick.

I think we all know that by know...
Being the greatest basketball player doesn't mean you're great on everything or that you're a great person.

[Jackal]

We never said that. We never said he was a great basketball scout because he was a good player.

I was just saying that him constantly picking on Brown was not the nicest thing to do.

To each their own I suppose.

[Matthew]

Yes he did. Not only was he being called a flaming faggot by MJ but the media & fans were all over him for sucking. OMG! First pick and he sucks, wtf!1/?! MJ picked you, live up to the expectations bitch.

That's what I called being scrutinised.

Actually the basketball world was revolving around planet MJ in 2002 until his injury. People pretty much were patient with him or had forgotten all about him.

It's not only once MJ's picked on Brown, we've heard of the others things he's done. Let's not act as if Brown's just a big cry baby. Even if he is, MJ brought it onto himself, he had all the faith he could handle Brown, now suddenly when he found out he couldn't handle him, he's a flaming faggot.

What other things did he do apart from taunting? It's not like he threw a bottle of beer at him . And it's not MJ's fault that Brown was a wimp. He needed to grow up.. it's just that simple.

Pff, MJ's great and all but he fucked up.

In terms of being a gm, yes. In terms of talking trash, nope.

Who cares about what Shaq said to Matt? Why are we even talking bout those two?

It's a comparison of how great players can say shit in battles.. wehteher it's one on one or practice or the nba finals.

[The GOAT]

Nobody said it was a good thing, well at least i didnt. But it shouldn't be an excuse for kwame. He should grow up...

You didn't say it was a good thing. I never said you did say it was a good thing. My comment was mainly directed towards The G.O.A.T.[/size][/b][/color]

Where did I say it was a good thing? I said it wasn't a bad thing, but I don't think it is at all a good thing.

[Full Surface]

Camby, maybe MJ should've told everyone he had no scouting abilities rather than drafting a highschooler to make NBA history.

[Jackal]

Actually the basketball world was revolving around planet MJ in 2002 until his injury. People pretty much were patient with him or had forgotten all about him.

Alright, since it was revolving around MJ circa 2002, people also had an eye on Brown. Where did MJ play again? Oh yeah, the Wizards. Each game where MJ was the focus of everyones attention, there were always questions of "hey, how's MJ's #1 pick doin?"

What other things did he do apart from taunting? It's not like he threw a bottle of beer at him . And it's not MJ's fault that Brown was a wimp. He needed to grow up.. it's just that simple.

I'm not talking about this incident only, come on, why bully the kid when he showed you he couldn't handle what you had in mind for him? He was all pro Kwame before drafting him. Then he went on bashing Kwame in the presence of others because he couldn't do what MJ wanted him to do. He fucked up, why vent it on Kwame. He should've done a better job of scouting and figured out that Kwame couldn't handle the number one pick position. Bullying him around won't turn things around.

In terms of being a gm, yes. In terms of talking trash, nope.

As I've said, it's not only once MJ humiliated Kwame.

It's a comparison of how great players can say shit in battles.. wehteher it's one on one or practice or the nba finals.

Oh, hum, alright.

[Matthew]

Alright, since it was revolving around MJ circa 2002, people also had an eye on Brown. Where did MJ play again? Oh yeah, the Wizards. Each game where MJ was the focus of everyones attention, there were always questions of "hey, how's MJ's #1 pick doin?"

Actually, no. He was basically forgotten in 2002, almost given a free pass becuase he was a high schooler, and this was before amare and lebron, so high schoolers werent expected to come in and help immediatly.

I'm not talking about this incident only, come on, why bully the kid when he showed you he couldn't handle what you had in mind for him? He was all pro Kwame before drafting him. Then he went on bashing Kwame in the presence of others because he couldn't do what MJ wanted him to do. He fucked up, why vent it on Kwame. He should've done a better job of scouting and figured out that Kwame couldn't handle the number one pick position. Bullying him around won't turn things around.

What other incidents are there? He called him names.. and, uh.. hmm is that it? If you cant handle being called names then your going to have an awfully tough life. It's somthing people in any profession have to deal with.

As I've said, it's not only once MJ humiliated Kwame.

Give me 3 instances then.

[Jackal]

God knows how many times he must of called him flaming faggot and what not during practice.

My point isn't that MJ shouldn't have called Kwame names. My point is MJ should've been a bit more of a protector to Kwame. He gave up on Kwame too soon. That's all I'm trying to say.

[Matthew]

Names are just that though. They're nothing. For people trying to use jordans name calling as an excuse as to why kwame hasnt produced is laughable.

[Jackal]

Not using it as an excuse, just figured MJ could've cut him some more slack.

Kwame not producing is because Kwame isn't like LeBron & Amare, he wasn't NBA ready. Apparently still isn't NBA ready.

[Matthew]

Camby, maybe MJ should've told everyone he had no scouting abilities rather than drafting a highschooler to make NBA history.

Or maybe he shouldnt have tried to be mvp candidate/gm/ assistant coach all at the same time