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Re: Hook PlayerEditor+ v1.5 fails with Season 6 patch

Postby looyh on Sat Apr 08, 2023 2:39 pm

2K has added an anti-cheat system to this version. You are not allowed to attach to the game process, and if any bytecode is found to be changed, the process will be killed by a protection thread??? (but with a random delay??? Perhaps). As a result, we have to bypass the anti-cheat system first. Or (as a last fallback) we back to the archive importing method like in 2K15 / FIFA, however, we will need to develop a new modding tool for this method.
But anyway, I am trying.
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Re: Hook PlayerEditor+ v1.5 fails with Season 6 patch

Postby Amioran on Sat Apr 08, 2023 2:42 pm

Shuajota wrote:The only solution right now is to use a prior exe until Looyh updates the plugin.


True, for now we can simply switch the exe back to the previous one, but I fear that for 2K24 there will not be possibility to mod the game in any way, even for offline.
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Re: Hook PlayerEditor+ v1.5 fails with Season 6 patch

Postby Amioran on Sat Apr 08, 2023 2:47 pm

looyh wrote:2K has added an anti-cheat system to this version. You are not allowed to attach to the game process, and if any bytecode is found to be changed, the main process will be killed by a protection process??? (but with a random delay??? Perhaps). As a result, we have to bypass the anti-cheat system first. Or (as a last fallback) we back to the archive importing method like in 2K15 / FIFA, however, we will need to develop a new modding tool for this method.
But anyway, I am trying.


That's exactly what I suspected and what I said from the beginning. This is no coincidence. 2K has never done such a thing before for PC and hence it's obvious that they are going this direction for a precise reason. Being charitable this is just a move to prevent cheating, however they could have easily implemented such a check exclusively for online modes but they didn't, so one has to wonder if this move is done also to prevent modding at all (as many high level publishers don't like users modding the game as that can impact microtransaction sales).
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Re: Hook PlayerEditor+ v1.5 fails with Season 6 patch

Postby Rosque on Sat Apr 08, 2023 7:48 pm

Amioran wrote:
looyh wrote:2K has added an anti-cheat system to this version. You are not allowed to attach to the game process, and if any bytecode is found to be changed, the main process will be killed by a protection process??? (but with a random delay??? Perhaps). As a result, we have to bypass the anti-cheat system first. Or (as a last fallback) we back to the archive importing method like in 2K15 / FIFA, however, we will need to develop a new modding tool for this method.
But anyway, I am trying.


That's exactly what I suspected and what I said from the beginning. This is no coincidence. 2K has never done such a thing before for PC and hence it's obvious that they are going this direction for a precise reason. Being charitable this is just a move to prevent cheating, however they could have easily implemented such a check exclusively for online modes but they didn't, so one has to wonder if this move is done also to prevent modding at all (as many high level publishers don't like users modding the game as that can impact microtransaction sales).


Or they are going to implement current gen version on pc and leave last gen in the dust. Maybe even implement crossplay
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Re: Hook PlayerEditor+ v1.5 fails with Season 6 patch

Postby bikerjimuk on Sat Apr 08, 2023 8:32 pm

this is so crap, can't use PS icons with my controller so any icon based stuff is a ballache in games!
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Re: Hook PlayerEditor+ v1.5 fails with Season 6 patch

Postby snake212 on Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:51 am

no its not just with player edits.....its mods period. DAMIT 2k i thought we were home free from here on out.
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Re: Hook PlayerEditor+ v1.5 fails with Season 6 patch

Postby snake212 on Sun Apr 09, 2023 1:16 am

For a temporary fix guys are using this non updated EXE file for 2K.....so far i have not had a crash yet since using it.

HERE DOWNLOAD:

LINK: NBA 2K exe
https://mega.nz/file/7mRRUbLJ#ZbEIZl3E6 ... GCR1UyJrfY
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Re: Hook PlayerEditor+ v1.5 fails with Season 6 patch

Postby imsodumb on Sun Apr 09, 2023 1:32 am

Shuajota wrote:
DAVID-SEP wrote:it seems that in this link on this page ( https://bbs.eyeuc.com/down/view/23536 ) folks found a solution.
I don't know for sure, because I can't access the site.
someone please that has access, download and distribute for us here please?

The solution is to replace the exe with a previous version until Looyh updates the hook.

Cookiedot shared his own backup: https://www.facebook.com/10003854903087 ... tid=Nif5oz


Ty this helped me
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Re: Hook PlayerEditor+ v1.5 fails with Season 6 patch

Postby looyh on Sun Apr 09, 2023 2:32 am

looyh wrote:2K has added an anti-cheat system to this version. You are not allowed to attach to the game process, and if any bytecode is found to be changed, the process will be killed by a protection thread??? (but with a random delay??? Perhaps). As a result, we have to bypass the anti-cheat system first. Or (as a last fallback) we back to the archive importing method like in 2K15 / FIFA, however, we will need to develop a new modding tool for this method.
But anyway, I am trying.


I've made some progress, but I've realized that if the Hook tool provides anti-anti-cheat, it could potentially pose some risks for me. After all, our original intention was just to mod our game in offline modes to enhance our gaming experience, not to cheat, but now we have to bypass the anti-cheat... I am not sure whether it's OK to release the new update. :(
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Re: Hook PlayerEditor+ v1.5 fails with Season 6 patch

Postby jacobrd1983 on Sun Apr 09, 2023 4:08 am

Would have to rely on people to be honest about head to head gameplay online. Personally, I hate playing against others online, I prefer just doing a myplayer story and going from there or maybe do myleague. Either way, it's your product and I think this community would support any call you make about going forward due to how much you have put into all of this.
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Re: Hook PlayerEditor+ v1.5 fails with Season 6 patch

Postby snake212 on Sun Apr 09, 2023 4:10 am

The non updated EXE file for 2K is working just fine with my practice mode & quick play games so far. Thank god....but that's all i play mainly. Thanks so much looyh for everything.
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Re: Hook PlayerEditor+ v1.5 fails with Season 6 patch

Postby Mahmood on Sun Apr 09, 2023 7:21 am

looyh wrote:
looyh wrote:2K has added an anti-cheat system to this version. You are not allowed to attach to the game process, and if any bytecode is found to be changed, the process will be killed by a protection thread??? (but with a random delay??? Perhaps). As a result, we have to bypass the anti-cheat system first. Or (as a last fallback) we back to the archive importing method like in 2K15 / FIFA, however, we will need to develop a new modding tool for this method.
But anyway, I am trying.


I've made some progress, but I've realized that if the Hook tool provides anti-anti-cheat, it could potentially pose some risks for me. After all, our original intention was just to mod our game in offline modes to enhance our gaming experience, not to cheat, but now we have to bypass the anti-cheat... I am not sure whether it's OK to release the new update. :(

It's entirely up to you, if you do choose to release the new update I would leave multiple disclaimers toward 2K Sports that the hook does not support online modding / cheating by any means. Mods don't even work online half the time anyway. But again, it's your choice as to the risk you'd like to take. Thank you for working on the hook regardless of what you choose to do. You could always go the 2K17 Explorer route but I know those tools take time to build and flesh out.
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Re: Hook PlayerEditor+ v1.5 fails with Season 6 patch

Postby sk8pop on Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:41 am

It is absurd to think this way.
their work is entirely focused on helping the community in a 100% beneficial way.
please don't let this sway your work.
you are exceptional at what you do!
just need to mention it.

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Re: Hook PlayerEditor+ v1.5 fails with Season 6 patch

Postby Mac62 on Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:09 am

Honestly would it be better to just go back to 2k22 and play that with mods instead of doing all of this ? Or any updates on a fix ? I’m depressed waiting
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Re: Hook PlayerEditor+ v1.5 fails with Season 6 patch

Postby snake212 on Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:21 am

Mac62 wrote:Honestly would it be better to just go back to 2k22 and play that with mods instead of doing all of this ? Or any updates on a fix ? I’m depressed waiting



You can still play with mods in 23. Why go back to 22????
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Re: Hook PlayerEditor+ v1.5 fails with Season 6 patch

Postby jmolol on Mon Apr 10, 2023 11:43 am

looyh wrote:
looyh wrote:2K has added an anti-cheat system to this version. You are not allowed to attach to the game process, and if any bytecode is found to be changed, the process will be killed by a protection thread??? (but with a random delay??? Perhaps). As a result, we have to bypass the anti-cheat system first. Or (as a last fallback) we back to the archive importing method like in 2K15 / FIFA, however, we will need to develop a new modding tool for this method.
But anyway, I am trying.


I've made some progress, but I've realized that if the Hook tool provides anti-anti-cheat, it could potentially pose some risks for me. After all, our original intention was just to mod our game in offline modes to enhance our gaming experience, not to cheat, but now we have to bypass the anti-cheat... I am not sure whether it's OK to release the new update. :(


We hope you release it, the game is unplayable without mods.
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Re: Hook PlayerEditor+ v1.5 fails with Season 6 patch

Postby EuroNBAbasketball14 on Mon Apr 10, 2023 11:58 am

Shuajota wrote:
deanwayne101 wrote:
Shuajota wrote:The only solution right now is to use a prior exe until Looyh updates the plugin.

how do we do that ?

I always make a backup after new patch update.

Hi Shuajota do you have the original NBA 2k23.exe(launch NBA 2k23.exe)?
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Re: Hook PlayerEditor+ v1.5 fails with Season 6 patch

Postby snake212 on Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:07 pm

jmolol wrote:
looyh wrote:
looyh wrote:2K has added an anti-cheat system to this version. You are not allowed to attach to the game process, and if any bytecode is found to be changed, the process will be killed by a protection thread??? (but with a random delay??? Perhaps). As a result, we have to bypass the anti-cheat system first. Or (as a last fallback) we back to the archive importing method like in 2K15 / FIFA, however, we will need to develop a new modding tool for this method.
But anyway, I am trying.


I've made some progress, but I've realized that if the Hook tool provides anti-anti-cheat, it could potentially pose some risks for me. After all, our original intention was just to mod our game in offline modes to enhance our gaming experience, not to cheat, but now we have to bypass the anti-cheat... I am not sure whether it's OK to release the new update. :(


We hope you release it, the game is unplayable without mods.



Again, what are you talking about??? We can play with mods!!!!........
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Re: Hook PlayerEditor+ v1.5 fails with Season 6 patch

Postby jmolol on Tue Apr 11, 2023 1:32 am

snake212 wrote:
jmolol wrote:
looyh wrote:
looyh wrote:2K has added an anti-cheat system to this version. You are not allowed to attach to the game process, and if any bytecode is found to be changed, the process will be killed by a protection thread??? (but with a random delay??? Perhaps). As a result, we have to bypass the anti-cheat system first. Or (as a last fallback) we back to the archive importing method like in 2K15 / FIFA, however, we will need to develop a new modding tool for this method.
But anyway, I am trying.


I've made some progress, but I've realized that if the Hook tool provides anti-anti-cheat, it could potentially pose some risks for me. After all, our original intention was just to mod our game in offline modes to enhance our gaming experience, not to cheat, but now we have to bypass the anti-cheat... I am not sure whether it's OK to release the new update. :(


We hope you release it, the game is unplayable without mods.



Again, what are you talking about??? We can play with mods!!!!........


I'm talking about crashes EVEN after using an older EXE
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Re: Hook PlayerEditor+ v1.5 fails with Season 6 patch

Postby Uncle Drew on Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:30 am

So does the older exe go in the main directory as usual?
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Re: Hook PlayerEditor+ v1.5 fails with Season 6 patch

Postby snake212 on Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:35 am

Again, what are you talking about??? We can play with mods!!!!........[/quote]

I'm talking about crashes EVEN after using an older EXE[/quote]


I have not had one crash since using the older EXE (knock on wood)....but again all I do is play-now games and occasionally play the Jordan challenge...
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Re: Hook PlayerEditor+ v1.5 fails with Season 6 patch

Postby Mahmood on Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:21 pm

Uncle Drew wrote:So does the older exe go in the main directory as usual?

Yes
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Re: Hook PlayerEditor+ v1.5 fails with Season 6 patch

Postby Mahmood on Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:24 pm

snake212 wrote:Again, what are you talking about??? We can play with mods!!!!........


jmolol wrote:I'm talking about crashes EVEN after using an older EXE



snake212 wrote:I have not had one crash since using the older EXE (knock on wood)....but again all I do is play-now games and occasionally play the Jordan challenge...

I haven't had a crash either, and I play primarily MyLeague and some 2KU Shootaround. Been able to play multiple hours without issues. If any of you are having issues even after adding this new EXE, make sure you have fully replaced your old one. Make sure the older EXE has replaced the new one in the directory. My roommate had installed it incorrectly by not replacing the original one, and I got his working by repeating the process, so be sure you've done it correctly.
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Re: Hook PlayerEditor+ v1.5 fails with Season 6 patch

Postby Chromatology on Wed Apr 12, 2023 5:28 pm

This is just further evidence that the type of edits that a good chunk of the fanbase adds via mods are going to be monetized. Additional hairstyles wasn't just a feature, methinks, it was foreshadowing.

Next PC version will be next gen.

With everybody on the same page, additional looks, (cyberfaces) jerseys, courts etc will be sold via microtransaction. It was only a matter of time before they went this route due to the popularity of modding these things.

What they are not seeing is that piracy will skyrocket if an offline modding solution is possible. A lot of modders are not online types anyway. The sad part is that the microtransactions will still probably make up the difference.
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Re: Hook PlayerEditor+ v1.5 fails with Season 6 patch

Postby jahm0ment on Thu Apr 13, 2023 1:04 am

Has anybody else gotten a prompt today from Steam saying you need to update before playing?
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