[DEN2K] Scoreboards - 2023 NBC,ESPN WITH AUTO-SWITCH DAYS (NEW TNT Gold Edition)

[froob]

Some more color combos:

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Obviously, the colors are loaded from the assigned team colors, which you can edit via 2K Tools. If you don't like the color combo for a particular team (and indeed some of them are not good combos, like the Blazers), just swap the team's colors around in 2K Tools to a combo you like.

The PHX font color stays orange no matter what team colors are selected

Now introducing... the Phoenix Hornets!

thephoenixhornets.png

The issue is that apparently the game doesn't fully register color changes for some teams unless you actually make them in-game.

Hmm not sure what's happening here lol, I copy and pastied your stuff into my espn folder and put it top of the mod list

[froob]

Some more color combos:

vetmin_den2k_espn2.png

Obviously, the colors are loaded from the assigned team colors, which you can edit via 2K Tools. If you don't like the color combo for a particular team (and indeed some of them are not good combos, like the Blazers), just swap the team's colors around in 2K Tools to a combo you like.

The PHX font color stays orange no matter what team colors are selected

Now introducing... the Phoenix Hornets!

thephoenixhornets.png

The issue is that apparently the game doesn't fully register color changes for some teams unless you actually make them in-game.

Hmm not sure what's happening here lol, I copy and pastied your stuff into my espn folder and put it top of the mod list

Fixed it, I just dragged the TEXT.VCLOCALIZEDATA into my english.iff (exported what I currently had). Changed some names around for my jerseys and what not probably screwed stuff up.

Which color is it supposed to pull from? Can't get Celtics font/numbers off green. Which is okay it'd be cool to be able to change it if possible

[vetmin]

Some more color combos:

vetmin_den2k_espn2.png

Obviously, the colors are loaded from the assigned team colors, which you can edit via 2K Tools. If you don't like the color combo for a particular team (and indeed some of them are not good combos, like the Blazers), just swap the team's colors around in 2K Tools to a combo you like.

The PHX font color stays orange no matter what team colors are selected

Now introducing... the Phoenix Hornets!

thephoenixhornets.png

The issue is that apparently the game doesn't fully register color changes for some teams unless you actually make them in-game.

Hmm not sure what's happening here lol, I copy and pastied your stuff into my espn folder and put it top of the mod list

Fixed it, I just dragged the TEXT.VCLOCALIZEDATA into my english.iff (exported what I currently had). Changed some names around for my jerseys and what not probably screwed stuff up.

For what it's worth, your screenshot shows that you were using my scoreboard but not my english.iff (more specifically, my TEXT.VCLOCALIZEDATA). My guess is that you enabled my english.iff then immediately jumped into a game. That will not work. Any mod that touches english.iff, gooeyglobal.iff, gooeyfrontend.iff, etc. requires a restart of the game to take effect. My apologies for not mentioning; sometimes when you're really in the weeds modding these sorts of things you forget that such things would not be common sense to everyone.

Which color is it supposed to pull from? Can't get Celtics font/numbers off green. Which is okay it'd be cool to be able to change it if possible

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See the post of mine that you're quoting. For some teams (the Celtics included, apparently), color changes must be made in-game (i.e., the normal, non-mod way, via Team Branding or whatever it's called) to take effect.

[froob]

Gotcha thanks! Just was making sure mine was pulling from the correct spot. I did see that you wrote that but I saw the Celtics on yours was a diff color on yours so thought it was odd it wasn’t letting me change it.

I think I did need to use my only English.iff and put your TEXT.VCLOCALIZEDATA in it because it worked in play now but in my league I got the jumbled letters in the screenshot.

[froob]

Huh…mine was already set to the colors I needed but score bug still uses a light green for the number and font

[vetmin]

I think I did need to use my only English.iff and put your TEXT.VCLOCALIZEDATA in it because it worked in play now but in my league I got the jumbled letters in the screenshot.

Nah, in your screenshot I can literally see the MyCareer text that I replaced. That text simply does not exist in my TEXT.VCLOCALIZEDATA, so it's impossible for the game to be displaying it if it is actually reading from my version of that file, which is the version in the english.iff I included in the download (I just double-checked). The game cannot have multiple versions of the game text loaded at once, so in that screenshot you either enabled / dragged in my english.iff and jumped into a game without restarting (doesn't matter if it was Play Now or MyLeague) or you inadvertently had a folder priority issue with your Mods folders (i.e., you thought it was reading my english.iff but you accidentally had a different english.iff overriding it in a higher-priority folder). Anyway, it's not really important, as long as you've ultimately got it working, which you have, but I'm just clarifying for your understanding.

Gotcha thanks! Just was making sure mine was pulling from the correct spot. I did see that you wrote that but I saw the Celtics on yours was a diff color on yours so thought it was odd it wasn’t letting me change it.

Huh…mine was already set to the colors I needed but score bug still uses a light green for the number and font

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So after a little more testing, it appears that for some teams -- despite what 2K Tools and Team Branding display as your team colors -- 2K has programmed the game to read a pre-determined, different color instead, at least for the sort of game code I've repurposed to generate these colors. You actually need to go into Team Branding, change the affected color slot to a different color, then exit Team Branding while keeping your changes; doing that will 'break' the invisible, 2K-determined color, and thenceforth that color slot will display as it should based on the color that appears in Team Branding. My colored text uses the Secondary and Tertiary color slots, but to be safe you might just wanna change all 3 colors to something else, then change them back, just to break any pre-determined color assignments from 2K.

EDIT: Thanks for calling attention to this, by the way. I was never gonna bother testing all 30 teams home and away, as I knew the principle of the mod was sound, but this has uncovered some weird stuff about color assignments in the game that were otherwise not really exposed.

[froob]

I think I did need to use my only English.iff and put your TEXT.VCLOCALIZEDATA in it because it worked in play now but in my league I got the jumbled letters in the screenshot.

Nah, in your screenshot I can literally see the MyCareer text that I replaced. That text simply does not exist in my TEXT.VCLOCALIZEDATA, so it's impossible for the game to be displaying it if it is actually reading from my version of that file, which is the version in the english.iff I included in the download (I just double-checked). The game cannot have multiple versions of the game text loaded at once, so in that screenshot you either enabled / dragged in my english.iff and jumped into a game without restarting (doesn't matter if it was Play Now or MyLeague) or you inadvertently had a folder priority issue with your Mods folders (i.e., you thought it was reading my english.iff but you accidentally had a different english.iff overriding it in a higher-priority folder). Anyway, it's not really important, as long as you've ultimately got it working, which you have, but I'm just clarifying for your understanding.

Gotcha thanks! Just was making sure mine was pulling from the correct spot. I did see that you wrote that but I saw the Celtics on yours was a diff color on yours so thought it was odd it wasn’t letting me change it.

Huh…mine was already set to the colors I needed but score bug still uses a light green for the number and font

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So after a little more testing, it appears that for some teams -- despite what 2K Tools and Team Branding display as your team colors -- 2K has programmed the game to read a pre-determined, different color instead, at least for the sort of game code I've repurposed to generate these colors. You actually need to go into Team Branding, change the affected color slot to a different color, then exit Team Branding while keeping your changes; doing that will 'break' the invisible, 2K-determined color, and thenceforth that color slot will display as it should based on the color that appears in Team Branding. My colored text uses the Secondary and Tertiary color slots, but to be safe you might just wanna change all 3 colors to something else, then change them back, just to break any pre-determined color assignments from 2K.

EDIT: Thanks for calling attention to this, by the way. I was never gonna bother testing all 30 teams home and away, as I knew the principle of the mod was sound, but this has uncovered some weird stuff about color assignments in the game that were otherwise not really exposed.

Good eye thanks, I’ll test that when I get a chance. Great work by the way, it looks really nice even with the Celtics color not exactly right.

[froob]

I think I did need to use my only English.iff and put your TEXT.VCLOCALIZEDATA in it because it worked in play now but in my league I got the jumbled letters in the screenshot.

Nah, in your screenshot I can literally see the MyCareer text that I replaced. That text simply does not exist in my TEXT.VCLOCALIZEDATA, so it's impossible for the game to be displaying it if it is actually reading from my version of that file, which is the version in the english.iff I included in the download (I just double-checked). The game cannot have multiple versions of the game text loaded at once, so in that screenshot you either enabled / dragged in my english.iff and jumped into a game without restarting (doesn't matter if it was Play Now or MyLeague) or you inadvertently had a folder priority issue with your Mods folders (i.e., you thought it was reading my english.iff but you accidentally had a different english.iff overriding it in a higher-priority folder). Anyway, it's not really important, as long as you've ultimately got it working, which you have, but I'm just clarifying for your understanding.

Gotcha thanks! Just was making sure mine was pulling from the correct spot. I did see that you wrote that but I saw the Celtics on yours was a diff color on yours so thought it was odd it wasn’t letting me change it.

Huh…mine was already set to the colors I needed but score bug still uses a light green for the number and font

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[ Image ]

So after a little more testing, it appears that for some teams -- despite what 2K Tools and Team Branding display as your team colors -- 2K has programmed the game to read a pre-determined, different color instead, at least for the sort of game code I've repurposed to generate these colors. You actually need to go into Team Branding, change the affected color slot to a different color, then exit Team Branding while keeping your changes; doing that will 'break' the invisible, 2K-determined color, and thenceforth that color slot will display as it should based on the color that appears in Team Branding. My colored text uses the Secondary and Tertiary color slots, but to be safe you might just wanna change all 3 colors to something else, then change them back, just to break any pre-determined color assignments from 2K.

EDIT: Thanks for calling attention to this, by the way. I was never gonna bother testing all 30 teams home and away, as I knew the principle of the mod was sound, but this has uncovered some weird stuff about color assignments in the game that were otherwise not really exposed.

Good eye thanks, I’ll test that when I get a chance. Great work by the way, it looks really nice even with the Celtics color not exactly right.

[froob]

I got it working, thanks vetmin. Even though color was displaying properly in team branding, still had to change it to something else and then save. I did upload a copy of my original branding so I could reset to it.

I believe changing the team branding screws up playoff crowds, not sure if there’s anyway around it. Good to upload your default branding before changing it so you can reset to it to fix playoff crowds, otherwise they’ll just be people in plain white Ts.

[jcblas026]

I got it working, thanks vetmin. Even though color was displaying properly in team branding, still had to change it to something else and then save. I did upload a copy of my original branding so I could reset to it.

I believe changing the team branding screws up playoff crowds, not sure if there’s anyway around it. Good to upload your default branding before changing it so you can reset to it to fix playoff crowds, otherwise they’ll just be people in plain white Ts.

It also mess up the scoring transition in espn sb when i modify the colors in team branding i dont know what triggered it, but it works well when you modify it via team branding. Same with the color of accessories and socks, it suddenly change.

[vetmin]

I got it working, thanks vetmin. Even though color was displaying properly in team branding, still had to change it to something else and then save. I did upload a copy of my original branding so I could reset to it.

I believe changing the team branding screws up playoff crowds, not sure if there’s anyway around it. Good to upload your default branding before changing it so you can reset to it to fix playoff crowds, otherwise they’ll just be people in plain white Ts.

I don't know if it will fix this issue, but when you change colors via Team Branding, the team status goes from User-Edited = "No" to instead being User-Edited = "Yes". This option can be toggled in 2K Tools, and even if you toggle it back to "No", you will keep the color changes that took effect with the scoreboard. You might try switching it back to "No" and double-checking that the assigned crowd ID in 2K Tools is still the correct one. It may be that if the game thinks you're using a customized team, it might automate the playoff crowds.

EDIT: If you're saying that loading the default branding fixed your crowd issue, then my bet is something going on with the crowd ID when team edits are made.

[froob]

I got it working, thanks vetmin. Even though color was displaying properly in team branding, still had to change it to something else and then save. I did upload a copy of my original branding so I could reset to it.

I believe changing the team branding screws up playoff crowds, not sure if there’s anyway around it. Good to upload your default branding before changing it so you can reset to it to fix playoff crowds, otherwise they’ll just be people in plain white Ts.

I don't know if it will fix this issue, but when you change colors via Team Branding, the team status goes from User-Edited = "No" to instead being User-Edited = "Yes". This option can be toggled in 2K Tools, and even if you toggle it back to "No", you will keep the color changes that took effect with the scoreboard. You might try switching it back to "No" and double-checking that the assigned crowd ID in 2K Tools is still the correct one. It may be that if the game thinks you're using a customized team, it might automate the playoff crowds.

EDIT: If you're saying that loading the default branding fixed your crowd issue, then my bet is something going on with the crowd ID when team edits are made.

Oh perfect, I will try that.

If I wanted to add the color changes to tnt and other scorebugs, do I just need to link the string of texts you put in the English.off into the newsbug?

[froob]

Okay, if you screw up your team's brandings, fill in all of these, it erases cut scene logo and wm logo (the team logo when you score) and you may want to scroll down a bit and change user edited to yes as vetmin suggested not sure what it does tbh but the rest will fix your stuff.

[JT_Bourbon]

Okay, if you screw up your team's brandings, fill in all of these, it erases cut scene logo and wm logo (the team logo when you score) and you may want to scroll down a bit and change user edited to yes as vetmin suggested not sure what it does tbh but the rest will fix your stuff.

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Not sure if you ran into this problem yet but if your portraits arent showing up for your team after this go into your away jersey in 2k tools and set the optiion "Is Home Jersey" to NO and it should make your portraits reappear in game. Also if you run into the problem of your portraits not showing in game (ESPN Panel, Starting portrait, etc.) and instead are showing as renders. its because this bugs your Home and Away jersey slots. not sure of a fix but a temporary workaround to get portraits to show up in game with your Icon and Association jerseys again is to just replace two of your classic jersey in 2k tools with the _current_home & _current_away jerseys and use those for games. (Making your home and away jersey slots useless). But still works

[jcblas026]

Okay, if you screw up your team's brandings, fill in all of these, it erases cut scene logo and wm logo (the team logo when you score) and you may want to scroll down a bit and change user edited to yes as vetmin suggested not sure what it does tbh but the rest will fix your stuff.

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I already figured it out thanks guys and for this awesome sb

[froob]

Okay, if you screw up your team's brandings, fill in all of these, it erases cut scene logo and wm logo (the team logo when you score) and you may want to scroll down a bit and change user edited to yes as vetmin suggested not sure what it does tbh but the rest will fix your stuff.

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Not sure if you ran into this problem yet but if your portraits arent showing up for your team after this go into your away jersey in 2k tools and set the optiion "Is Home Jersey" to NO and it should make your portraits reappear in game. Also if you run into the problem of your portraits not showing in game (ESPN Panel, Starting portrait, etc.) and instead are showing as renders. its because this bugs your Home and Away jersey slots. not sure of a fix but a temporary workaround to get portraits to show up in game with your Icon and Association jerseys again is to just replace two of your classic jersey in 2k tools with the _current_home & _current_away jerseys and use those for games. (Making your home and away jersey slots useless). But still works

Thanks I did run into this issue.

[vetmin]

Okay, if you screw up your team's brandings, fill in all of these, it erases cut scene logo and wm logo (the team logo when you score) and you may want to scroll down a bit and change user edited to yes as vetmin suggested not sure what it does tbh but the rest will fix your stuff.

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Not sure if you ran into this problem yet but if your portraits arent showing up for your team after this go into your away jersey in 2k tools and set the optiion "Is Home Jersey" to NO and it should make your portraits reappear in game. Also if you run into the problem of your portraits not showing in game (ESPN Panel, Starting portrait, etc.) and instead are showing as renders. its because this bugs your Home and Away jersey slots. not sure of a fix but a temporary workaround to get portraits to show up in game with your Icon and Association jerseys again is to just replace two of your classic jersey in 2k tools with the _current_home & _current_away jerseys and use those for games. (Making your home and away jersey slots useless). But still works

Thanks I did run into this issue.

You guys were running into this issue even with looyh's Force Portraits plug-in on? Or do you not use it for some reason?

[JT_Bourbon]

Okay, if you screw up your team's brandings, fill in all of these, it erases cut scene logo and wm logo (the team logo when you score) and you may want to scroll down a bit and change user edited to yes as vetmin suggested not sure what it does tbh but the rest will fix your stuff.

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Not sure if you ran into this problem yet but if your portraits arent showing up for your team after this go into your away jersey in 2k tools and set the optiion "Is Home Jersey" to NO and it should make your portraits reappear in game. Also if you run into the problem of your portraits not showing in game (ESPN Panel, Starting portrait, etc.) and instead are showing as renders. its because this bugs your Home and Away jersey slots. not sure of a fix but a temporary workaround to get portraits to show up in game with your Icon and Association jerseys again is to just replace two of your classic jersey in 2k tools with the _current_home & _current_away jerseys and use those for games. (Making your home and away jersey slots useless). But still works

Thanks I did run into this issue.

You guys were running into this issue even with looyh's Force Portraits plug-in on? Or do you not use it for some reason?

Yeah this issue happens even with Looyh's plugin. Its because changing team branding does something to your home and away jersey slots that make them somewhat act as custom jersey slots like from the team design share. Ive tried a lot to fix the issue such as replacing the home and away slots and then changing them back to the regular jersey manually but it will still show renders in game (Starting Lineup Portraits, ESPN Panel images, etc.) The work around is to just overwrite two classic jerseys with your home and away jerseys and just use those and leave your actual h/a slots untouched.

[vetmin]

Okay, if you screw up your team's brandings, fill in all of these, it erases cut scene logo and wm logo (the team logo when you score) and you may want to scroll down a bit and change user edited to yes as vetmin suggested not sure what it does tbh but the rest will fix your stuff.

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Not sure if you ran into this problem yet but if your portraits arent showing up for your team after this go into your away jersey in 2k tools and set the optiion "Is Home Jersey" to NO and it should make your portraits reappear in game. Also if you run into the problem of your portraits not showing in game (ESPN Panel, Starting portrait, etc.) and instead are showing as renders. its because this bugs your Home and Away jersey slots. not sure of a fix but a temporary workaround to get portraits to show up in game with your Icon and Association jerseys again is to just replace two of your classic jersey in 2k tools with the _current_home & _current_away jerseys and use those for games. (Making your home and away jersey slots useless). But still works

Thanks I did run into this issue.

You guys were running into this issue even with looyh's Force Portraits plug-in on? Or do you not use it for some reason?

Yeah this issue happens even with Looyh's plugin. Its because changing team branding does something to your home and away jersey slots that make them somewhat act as custom jersey slots like from the team design share. Ive tried a lot to fix the issue such as replacing the home and away slots and then changing them back to the regular jersey manually but it will still show renders in game (Starting Lineup Portraits, ESPN Panel images, etc.) The work around is to just overwrite two classic jerseys with your home and away jerseys and just use those and leave your actual h/a slots untouched.

Hmmm... here are screenshots from the dummy MyLeague I started just for testing the scoreboard (ignore the missing text; that's due to some unrelated UI experimentation I was doing):

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I made zero jersey edits of any kind for those teams, and in general I highly highly advise against messing with jersey slots in 2K Tools. Editing jersey properties within the Edit Jersey interface (including the jersey "Type", which includes "Normal", "Created", etc.) is fine but I always avoid reassigning jersey slots, just because in my experience it leads to chaos (jerseys getting unintentionally overwritten, duplicated, etc.).

EDIT: Also, Maxey is a render there purely because I haven't installed a portrait for him.

[JT_Bourbon]

Okay, if you screw up your team's brandings, fill in all of these, it erases cut scene logo and wm logo (the team logo when you score) and you may want to scroll down a bit and change user edited to yes as vetmin suggested not sure what it does tbh but the rest will fix your stuff.

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Not sure if you ran into this problem yet but if your portraits arent showing up for your team after this go into your away jersey in 2k tools and set the optiion "Is Home Jersey" to NO and it should make your portraits reappear in game. Also if you run into the problem of your portraits not showing in game (ESPN Panel, Starting portrait, etc.) and instead are showing as renders. its because this bugs your Home and Away jersey slots. not sure of a fix but a temporary workaround to get portraits to show up in game with your Icon and Association jerseys again is to just replace two of your classic jersey in 2k tools with the _current_home & _current_away jerseys and use those for games. (Making your home and away jersey slots useless). But still works

Thanks I did run into this issue.

You guys were running into this issue even with looyh's Force Portraits plug-in on? Or do you not use it for some reason?

Yeah this issue happens even with Looyh's plugin. Its because changing team branding does something to your home and away jersey slots that make them somewhat act as custom jersey slots like from the team design share. Ive tried a lot to fix the issue such as replacing the home and away slots and then changing them back to the regular jersey manually but it will still show renders in game (Starting Lineup Portraits, ESPN Panel images, etc.) The work around is to just overwrite two classic jerseys with your home and away jerseys and just use those and leave your actual h/a slots untouched.

Hmmm... here are screenshots from the dummy MyLeague I started just for testing the scoreboard (ignore the missing text; that's due to some unrelated UI experimentation I was doing):

screen.jpg

I made zero jersey edits of any kind for those teams, and in general I highly highly advise against messing with jersey slots in 2K Tools. Editing jersey properties within the Edit Jersey interface (including the jersey "Type", which includes "Normal", "Created", etc.) is fine but I always avoid reassigning jersey slots, just because in my experience it leads to chaos (jerseys getting unintentionally overwritten, duplicated, etc.).

EDIT: Also, Maxey is a render there purely because I haven't installed a portrait for him.

Yeah but now if you want to fix the issue of the font color being static and not being able to change you would have to go into your team branding and change a color and then save it. Now once you do this you unlock the ability to change the font color for teams that were stuck on a static color. But since you did this it will bug your home and away slot for portraits in game. (All other jersey like city, classic, etc. all still have portraits in game) it only effects the home and away jerseys. now a fix for the portraits not showing in the menus of your myleague (Team editor, trade finder, etc.) You go to your away jersey in 2k tools and set the option "Is Home Jersey" to NO. That will bring your portraits back in the menus. But in game the Home and Away jerseys will always show renders on Starting Lineup Portraits, ESPN Panel images, etc. Could not find a fix aside from changing the two oldest classic jerseys of that team into the home and away jersey and using those slots. (Make zero changes to any actual jersey slots) Just change the name of the jersey file in 2k tools to your _current_away and _current_home and then you can change the colors for accessories if you need to. But using those replaced classic jerseys lets you use your home and away jerseys in game still without using the bugged render slots.

[vetmin]

Yeah but now if you want to fix the issue of the font color being static and not being able to change you would have to go into your team branding and change a color and then save it. Now once you do this you unlock the ability to change the font color for teams that were stuck on a static color. But since you did this it will bug your home and away slot for portraits in game.

But my screenshot shows that Boston's text color has been successfully changed to white, all while not affecting in-game headshots and portraits at all. Menu headshots also appear fine.

[JT_Bourbon]

Yeah but now if you want to fix the issue of the font color being static and not being able to change you would have to go into your team branding and change a color and then save it. Now once you do this you unlock the ability to change the font color for teams that were stuck on a static color. But since you did this it will bug your home and away slot for portraits in game.

But my screenshot shows that Boston's text color has been successfully changed to white, all while not affecting in-game headshots and portraits at all. Menu headshots also appear fine.

Some teams such as Boston don't have the font color static issue. It only effects certain teams. Any team that you have to go in game and physically change the team branding to get the font color changing to work will have the issue I have explained. Boston is not one of these teams. One team I found that has this problem is the Phoenix Suns. You have to change the team branding to get the font color to work. And once you change anything to do with team branding in game it will give your team the two bugged jersey slots (home and away)

[IronMeci]

Thank for your work Den, I've a question there's a way to adjust ESPN Scoreboard for 21:9 screen?

[eb14]

I'm not sure how to get the scoreboards to work. I have the .iff files in the mods folder but it won't work. In 2k20, i was ablt to assign scoreboards to show up when a certain team was at home, but i don't see that option when i open the hook gui in this game. What am i doing wrong?

[Luke2jc]

Does anyone have the 90s NBC scoreboard for NBA 2k23 to share?