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"Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby Andrew on Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:10 am

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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby ilja23mia on Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:24 am

They have to be kidding us..
Irving exactly same scan as 2k18
Not worth this Hype if the gameplay hasnt changed..
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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby Ballyoop on Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:34 am

Meh
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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby I Hate Mondays on Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:40 am

+ New color for the ball, finally looks realistic
- Clippers still looks way off with the colors, probably no updates for the courts this year

Overall, I see visual improvements somehow. The faces look more animated and less generic. Can't wait to see some actual, unedited gameplay. I am kinda hyped for the moment
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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby PeacemanNOT on Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:49 am

Biggest things that stand out to me in this trailer is the lighting. Extremely similar to 2K18 if not the same. The dark crowds are huge killer to the atmosphere... god it ruins the game. Body models look the same as 2K18, jersey textures look too contrasted/dark (this could be because of the ugly lighting).

I did see some new face scans or just faces in general, from what I could see; Giannis, LeBron, Pau Gasol, John Wall, Chris Paul, Thaddeus Young, CJ McCollum, DeAndre Jordan and Curry. Some faces that still haven't been updated would be Covington, Javale McGee, Westbrook, Kyries massive head....

I did also notice the ball looks a lot more orange, it only took them like 5 years... other than that I don't really think there was anything new, maybe a couple of gameplay features.
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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby Andrew on Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:06 am

I've watched the trailer a few times, and to be honest, it hasn't made a big impression on me positively or negatively. I think it's well-produced and all that, and the action was also fine. Many aspects of the visuals look a lot like NBA 2K18, for better or worse, but I expected that having seen the screenshots. I'm OK with that; it wasn't my biggest complaint about NBA 2K18 after all. There were some nice looking moves on display as usual, but a lack of animation variety or quality hasn't been an issue for me either.

It's also hard for a trailer to really blow us away when we're a few games into a generation. The OMG trailer for NBA 2K14 lived up to its name, because it was a big jump in terms of graphics. This is a nice enough trailer, but we've already had the really big jump this generation, so it remains a tough act to follow. On top of that, I've gone through quite a few preview seasons at this point, and while I'd like to think I'm not completely jaded or anything, I've learned to be cautiously optimistic. Especially after getting burned a few times.

When it comes down to it, the biggest questions about NBA 2K19 will be answered through forthcoming developer blogs and ultimately, hands-on experience. The things that I both like and am most frustrated by are not going to be addressed or properly demonstrated by a cinematic trailer, so while I do say credit where it's due and there are some noticeable improvements to certain faces and whatnot, it doesn't really move the needle for me. The developer blog on MyLEAGUE, MyGM, and MyLEAGUE Online had a much bigger impact in terms of getting me hyped and interested in NBA 2K19.
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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby Dee4Three on Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:16 am

Going to leave my comments to myself at the moment......

All I will say is: I will try the game, but it's looking like I may have the same feelings as I did about 2K18...
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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby [Q] on Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:46 am

Seems like mostly celebration animations and not much actual gameplay
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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby Manni Live on Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:41 am

Absolutely nothing surprised me in the trailer. I really just hope they fix the gameplay more than anything at this moment. What mainly stood out was the fact that they still havent fix the damn lighting in the game. Teams like wizards,warriors and the magic arenas should not be that dark. So far it looks very identical to 2k18.
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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby ConfigSys on Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:33 am

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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby sticky-fingers on Wed Aug 08, 2018 5:01 am

Well, it looks like 2K18.
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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby Murat on Wed Aug 08, 2018 5:39 am

I guess it's 2K18 lol. In some segments it seemed like a Shady00018 production
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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby ThaLiveKing on Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:54 am

2K, since 2014 has tried to replicate that crazy OMG trailer and had failed ever since. They gotta try something else.

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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby mrk326 on Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:59 pm

2k18 and 2k19 be like lol

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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby V01D on Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:31 pm

Bet you can just put 2k18 mods into 2k19 and it'll work
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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby Midas Touch on Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:08 pm

I totally Agree with everything said in the thread i came over from Operation Sports and finally decided to make an account on this Forum

The people at OS are flipping meat riders and just incompetent. For example i said that this is NBA 2K18.5 and they just started bashing me.

I'm glad i found somewhere people actually have some sense and see that 2K will no longer improve it's product since they're the juggernaut.
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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby Sith on Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:19 pm

Anyway we have warm sleeves in the game :D
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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby PeacemanNOT on Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:59 pm

Midas Touch wrote:I totally Agree with everything said in the thread i came over from Operation Sports and finally decided to make an account on this Forum

The people at OS are flipping meat riders and just incompetent. For example i said that this is NBA 2K18.5 and they just started bashing me.

I'm glad i found somewhere people actually have some sense and see that 2K will no longer improve it's product since they're the juggernaut.

Welcome to the NLSC man. Yep I feel the exact same way about OS. Just a forum that is too scared to bash the game because they don't want to destroy the ties they have with the devs. Right now it's just a bunch of veteran members shutting down any criticism, bringing out the typical "it's an early build" or "it's way too early". I was recently threatened with a ban because I was being "off topic" talking about how people shouldn't be fooled into pre-ordering. Shit is ridiculous over there.
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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby Vlad2010 on Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:38 am

One difference from 2k18 is there - different ball :mrgreen:
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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby ConfigSys on Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:59 am

Vlad2010 wrote:One difference from 2k18 is there - different ball :mrgreen:


hmmmm i think the difference is one digit :|
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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby Rosque on Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:17 am

I saw some solid gameplay features they hinted at with CP3 holind defender in jail and Giannis with euro-dunk. This is for the casuals anyway. And realistically, how in the hell is gfx gonna look any different when they pretty much peaked?
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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby PeacemanNOT on Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:26 am

2K14 to this day looks better than 2K15-2K18. They could make the game look better, the reality is they don't have enough time as they had with 2K14 (it was developed over multiple years). Instead of optimising the game they just scale down everything (removing body models, making crowds/stadiums pitch black etc.) to make the game run properly. I personally don't think they've peaked at all, they're just cutting corners because of lack of time.
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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby Dee4Three on Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:14 am

Rosque wrote:I saw some solid gameplay features they hinted at with CP3 holind defender in jail and Giannis with euro-dunk. This is for the casuals anyway. And realistically, how in the hell is gfx gonna look any different when they pretty much peaked?


How have they peaked? It's basically universally agreed upon that 2K14 (Released in 2013) had better overall graphics than 2K18, and looks to be better than 2K19 as well. The body types in 2K18 were clay like, how is that peaking? Oversized heads all over the league, clay body types (Gumby looking bodies), darker arenas than real life, unrealistically dead atmosphere, lighting issues in general, courts that are completely the wrong color, etc.

The graphics have not peaked in the least. For this gen, the equivalent of peaking graphically/atmosphere wise is Madden 18 and possibly 19 (For a sports game) or the new pro evolution soccer games. So on top of legacy issues and new gameplay issues that were presented in 2K18, the graphics have also been taking steps back since the first game on this generation.

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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby Andrew on Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:27 am

It seems like detail is being sacrificed to make room for assets such as halftime interviews and other such presentation features. They're nice features that add to the atmosphere, but they also get rather repetitive, so I wouldn't mind not seeing them anymore if it freed up room to enhance the visuals and game in other ways.
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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby sticky-fingers on Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:37 am

Is it sacrifice ? because even if it's bad work, they worked on it.

It looks like an administration or a big company. The "body crew" seems to work every year on players body types.
Body types were pretty good in 2K16.
Then 2K17, skinny type.
And 2K18 some big heads issues. It really looks like 2K "body crew" work without without cooperating with "faces crew".
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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby Andrew on Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:44 am

My point is that certain assets are being removed/take a hit in quality in order to make room for other assets that we could arguably do without. Or so it seems, anyway.
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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby Midas Touch on Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:53 am

Rosque wrote:I saw some solid gameplay features they hinted at with CP3 holind defender in jail and Giannis with euro-dunk. This is for the casuals anyway. And realistically, how in the hell is gfx gonna look any different when they pretty much peaked?



"Peaked"

You must be playing a different game because everything you're talking about makes no sense because it's a trailer their not gonna put trash stuff in a trailer. :facepalm2:

If you really think this game is gonna better than last year than you sadly mistaken.
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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby Pep on Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:06 am

Vlad2010 wrote:One difference from 2k18 is there - different ball :mrgreen:


Different, but still wrong. C'mon this how ball look one one side:
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It doesn't look the same on both side (with 2k example look at first picture). How hard is to update it? Especially they never did it correctly.
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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby Rosque on Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:51 am

Andrew wrote:It seems like detail is being sacrificed to make room for assets such as halftime interviews and other such presentation features. They're nice features that add to the atmosphere, but they also get rather repetitive, so I wouldn't mind not seeing them anymore if it freed up room to enhance the visuals and game in other ways.


This is what I meant as peaked. Poorly worded on my part. Apologies.
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Postby JEDL on Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:21 pm

Andrew wrote:It seems like detail is being sacrificed to make room for assets such as halftime interviews and other such presentation features. They're nice features that add to the atmosphere, but they also get rather repetitive, so I wouldn't mind not seeing them anymore if it freed up room to enhance the visuals and game in other ways.


Agreed, its all fluff with no substance, they only rip audios from actual games with people saying vague shit and awkwardly plaster them in the game. It becomes frustrating to deal with them sometimes especially how you can't skip a large chunk of the halftime presentation barely anyone even pays any attention to.
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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby Andrew on Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:54 pm

Absolutely. It's funny because twenty years ago, most of us were talking about how cool it would be to have all that stuff. Now that we have it, the drawbacks are apparent, and usually I'm tapping the button trying to skip through it as soon as possible.
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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby Dommy73 on Fri Aug 10, 2018 3:04 pm

Andrew wrote:Absolutely. It's funny because twenty years ago, most of us were talking about how cool it would be to have all that stuff. Now that we have it, the drawbacks are apparent, and usually I'm tapping the button trying to skip through it as soon as possible.


This has two parts:

First of all it should be easily skippable for those who just want a quick game. Some people want it all the time, others just some time. Make all these immersion options toggle-able and you have both camps happy.

Second, the game has blatant gameplay issues and people feel like there was manpower and other resources spent on the "fluff" instead of getting the gameplay fixed.
And I know people like to go after 2KTV, but that likely goes (mostly) out of marketing budget to be honest.

If you address these two things - being able to toggle the whole immersion thing on and off AND fixing a generation old bugs and other gameplay issues like obvious balancing for online play ruining single player experience - nobody can say a word against it.

Oh and not having commentators say absolutely random stuff would be cool as well, 2K18 was super cringy in this regard when they they just checked the "yes, there was a screen set up somewhere during that play" checkbox and then said "how the screen enabled the whole play". BOY. That screen was off-ball screen that wasn't actually used in the play.
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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby Andrew on Fri Aug 10, 2018 6:06 pm

Definitely. I can appreciate how it livens up gameplay, but sometimes you want a more streamlined experience (or you're just tired of hearing the same thing over and over again). As you noted, it is frustrating when it feels like other, more important aspects of the gameplay experience aren't up to your expectations.
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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby Midas Touch on Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:42 pm

Andrew wrote:Definitely. I can appreciate how it livens up gameplay, but sometimes you want a more streamlined experience (or you're just tired of hearing the same thing over and over again). As you noted, it is frustrating when it feels like other, more important aspects of the gameplay experience aren't up to your expectations.


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Re: "Take The Crown" Gameplay Trailer

Postby skoadam on Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:09 am

I want to wait with my opinion. I must see real gameplay first.
Im wondering..... 2k19 will be last current gen game? Imo current engine of the game is not helping to solve problems we all know.
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Postby Dommy73 on Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:02 pm

skoadam wrote:Im wondering..... 2k19 will be last current gen game? Imo current engine of the game is not helping to solve problems we all know.


Probably no. Currently it is estimated that PS5/X2 (let's just roll with it XBox 2 for the moment for simplicity) might be revealed on E3 2019. Which would in turn mean they'd release them for holiday season 2020 (Q4).
So if we're optimistic about consoles, NBA 2K21 might be the first one for them released late, similar to NBA 2K14.

However, technically speaking it is unrealistic to expect them to "change" the engine. 2K is likely not going to invest massive amount of time and resources into building an NBA game from scratch.
They'll likely do upgrades of various parts and the "next-gen" will have graphical jump (although given current graphical levels, it's not gonna be as pronounced as 7th to 8th generation. I personally expect a big jump in CPU department (they have to, current CPUs in consoles are hot garbage), which will allow for more lively worlds (in other games), physics and better AI.

Also around the time of announcement of new consoles they'll likely know the approximate final specs so they'll be able to send them to studios to prepare games for that level of hardware.
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