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Postby j.23 on Wed Sep 15, 2004 12:16 pm

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nba/story/7681034

pretty much they're talking for a straight up trade between shareef abdur-rahim and j.kidd.. holy shit, if they actually manage to acquire kidd portland's gonna be a big mess.. they're gonna have to ship stoudamire or van exel elsewhere.. i think they'll end up having 4 point guards if this trade goes through
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Postby GloveGuy on Wed Sep 15, 2004 12:29 pm

They'd have four legit point guards -- three that could easily start on another NBA team, and one that could potentially be an all-star(Telfair). I can't see it happening. In fact, Portland would be stupid, though they're getting the better end, to actually go through with such a trade.
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Postby NNpF on Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:12 pm

I want them to trade Kidd for more then just Abdur-Rahim. They need more young talent than a PF who may never play like he did again. They have a lot of time before they ever make the finals again so might as well make sure you get the best possible trade for Kidd you can get.
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Postby Riot on Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:22 pm

I heard possibley Kidd + Mourning being involved in a trade with Reef and Telfair.
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Postby NNpF on Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:41 pm

Thats even worse than the original trade. What the hell is Nets managment trying to do? I mean rebuilding is one thing, completely demolishing a potentially consistent team when you really didn't have to. They made enough mistakes by trading Martin and Kittles for garbage when they could have cleared room to re-sign Martin and Kittles wasn't even a free agent. Now they want to trade their leader for a player who may become an All-Star or may become absolutely nothing. I don't know what else to say, I can only pray that this trade does not go through.
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Postby Bill Russell on Wed Sep 15, 2004 2:26 pm

Kidd = Shareef (in terms of salary)

%15 = Telfair throw-in

Morning hardly will play anyway...
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Postby Andrew on Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:15 pm

This deal really sounds like some of the trades the CPU makes in NBA Live. Two good players (obviously I rate Kidd higher), matching salaries, not much achieved by either side. It's really a trade for the sake of making a trade, which in a way makes sense since both players have indicated that right now they aren't happy where they are.

But with all the Nets have done this offseason and the fact Portland will have four point guards and little chance of clearing the logjam, a trade simply to move two unhappy players doesn't seem like a good idea. If these two teams are that keen to do business, then at least throw some other players into the mix so that the transaction won't leave both teams lopsided in the talent pool.
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Postby VlaDiv on Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:15 am

Every time somebody get unhappy, they make a stupid trade. Shaq would not be traded for one semi-good player, one marginal starter and one aging starter, but he was. Cause he was unhappy in LA. Who cares if he is unhappy. With 30 million he should be happy to be 12th man. He should be saying ok coach, ill play point guard, can I get you some free lunch too? For the money, guys should be happy to do whatever they are asked. Kidd for reef makes no sense. Reef good, Kidd all-star. Port has tons of PGs though. and Reef is no keyon martin. Kittle for 2nd rounder? You kidding? What 2nd rounder is going to give you 13 ppg every year?
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Postby TheFranchiseKing on Thu Sep 16, 2004 8:40 am

GloveGuy wrote:

They'd have four legit point guards -- three that could easily start on another NBA team, and one that could potentially be an all-star(Telfair). I can't see it happening. In fact, Portland would be stupid, though they're getting the better end, to actually go through with such a trade.


Did you just say Telfair as a potential all star? That guy blows, he is all hype and showed nothing special in the summer league. He would not be in the NBA if he did not have an overrated cousin (Marbury) .
Sorry to quote on this but guys like him are why the NBA is getting shitty. All these overated player who werent even that good in college or high school but have all this hype.
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Postby Shyne on Thu Sep 16, 2004 9:44 am

while telfair didnt do shit in the summer league and he is overrated like hell, he was not shitty in high school at all. not that good in high school? that foo averaged 30 something points his senior year. being only 6 ft and playin in nyc, thats pretty fucking impressive. im not sayin that he gon be crazy just cuz he was an all-american in high school but to say that he was shit in high school is just ignorant
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Postby TheFranchiseKing on Thu Sep 16, 2004 10:33 am

I see what your saying but I think they should stop hyping up High school kids. Of course we have our usual suspects (Garnett, Lebron) but those are very rare cases. I remember we had a guy score 76 against my High school team. He ended up playing at UF but no NBA. Not even close. They should stop alowing HS kids in the league it's ruining the quality of the game.
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Postby Chuck04 on Thu Sep 16, 2004 11:24 am

VlaDiv wrote:What 2nd rounder is going to give you 13 ppg every year?


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Postby NNpF on Thu Sep 16, 2004 11:36 am

I don't care how unhappy they are, Kidd is getting older and not getting any better but he is still one of the best PG in the league. As for Shareef, most people forgot about him. I mean, I bet there are a shit load of teams that would like to get their hands on Kidd and offer something better than Shareef.

I mean so many people think Mitch Kupchak is an idiot. Look what Nets managment has done this year:

- Gave up an All-Star because "they couldn't afford to keep him" for 3 DRAFT PICKS.
- Gave up a very consistent and a decent defensive player for garbage.
- Waived a guy who has been playing exceptionally well coming off the bench for the team when he could have started this year.

I mean, as someone said earlier, "How must the Nets fans feel". Well bascially its not "Nets Fans" anymore, now its "Jefferson Fans". They might as rename the team the the New Jersey Jeffersons as soon as they trade Kidd away for a 2nd round pick :? .
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Postby GloveGuy on Thu Sep 16, 2004 11:53 am

TheFranchiseKing wrote:Did you just say Telfair as a potential all star? That guy blows, he is all hype and showed nothing special in the summer league. He would not be in the NBA if he did not have an overrated cousin (Marbury) .
Sorry to quote on this but guys like him are why the NBA is getting shitty. All these overated player who werent even that good in college or high school but have all this hype.


Keyword is "potential". Telfair has the potential to be an all-star or at least a solid starter in this league. If he could backup Kidd, establishing a mentor-rookie relationship, I could see a strong future for him. Whether it happens or not, I've always thought that Telfair has been unfairly criticized. He posesses the abilities to be a star, yet people look at his small stature and iffy jumpshot and play down on him.
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Postby ATTENTIONWHORE on Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:02 pm

If this happens, West will eat the East in the ASG (once again) :roll: ...
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Postby twolvezfanfoever on Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:49 pm

Now if they trade Shareef,you know either Van Exel or Stoudamire goin wit them.No matter what,the Nets are gonna stink
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Postby Amphatoast on Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:59 pm

The nets might as well trade rosters with the bobcats if they really want a good lottery pick.
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Postby Owen on Thu Sep 16, 2004 8:24 pm

no way...its sure that blazers will look ugly with all of those decent pgs
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Postby TheFranchiseKing on Fri Sep 17, 2004 2:57 am

Glove guy Wrote
Keyword is "potential". Telfair has the potential to be an all-star or at least a solid starter in this league. If he could backup Kidd, establishing a mentor-rookie relationship, I could see a strong future for him. Whether it happens or not, I've always thought that Telfair has been unfairly criticized. He posesses the abilities to be a star, yet people look at his small stature and iffy jumpshot and play down on him.


I do believe a Good Jumpshot use to matter in this league but I guess not anymore.
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