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Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby Andrew on Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:20 am

The official title for Episode VIII has been revealed.

We have the greatest fans in this or any other galaxy. In appreciation of the fans, we wanted them to be the first to know the title of the next chapter in the Skywalker saga: STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI.

STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI is scheduled for release December 15, 2017.


Maybe not the most original or creative title, but I'm not bothered by it. I enjoyed The Force Awakens, and Rogue One, so I'm looking forward to this as well. The way the years fly by these days, December 15th will probably be here before we know it, too.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby Lean on Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:00 pm

I enjoyed TFA, too. I hope this time they don't bank on too much nostalgia, and I also hope Luke does not die.

At this point, one of the leads should lose a right hand. And would Luke piggyback on Rey for her Jedi training?
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby Andrew on Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:07 pm

Yeah, I'm definitely hoping this isn't the end for Luke, too. It made sense to hit on some of the same story points as one of the themes of TFA was history repeating itself, and it didn't ruin the movie for me, but I agree they have to be careful about that moving forward.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby Lean on Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:10 pm

What I do hope, though, is for the new canon ghost Anakin to appear in some degree to give Luke advice or whatever. Just to give the prequels a callback.

For the stand-alone movies, I'd like to see an Obi-Wan solo film with Ewan reprising the role.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby Andrew on Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:32 pm

Yeah, I think he has to have some presence or acknowledgement, beyond his charred Vader helmet in TFA.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby Sauru on Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:42 pm

i like the name myself i just hope that certain parts of the movie make more sense than they did in TFA. also i want better light saber fights
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby Andrew on Tue Jan 31, 2017 6:47 pm

Has to, surely. We should have more experienced people fighting with them this time around.

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby debiler on Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:50 pm

I'm really looking forward to what they're gonna do with Kylo Ren and in which direction they're gonna take him.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby Sauru on Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:31 am

debiler wrote:I'm really looking forward to what they're gonna do with Kylo Ren and in which direction they're gonna take him.



say he died off screen and bring in an interesting villain?
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby Andrew on Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:35 am

That's a bit harsh. I think it's a decent character choice, a misguided young man who's trying to be badass and evil, but he's not really a villain. Or maybe not; maybe, unlike his grandfather, he doesn't redeem himself, and does fully embrace the Dark Side and dies as a true bad guy in the end.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby Andrew on Sat Apr 15, 2017 11:08 am

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby Lean on Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:19 pm

A new trailer, gentlemen.

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It's a big misdirection, but I'm sensing a double-turn. My theory is that no matter what happens, Luke will always be the last Jedi.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby Andrew on Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:59 pm

It's certainly teasing something like that, but I'm just not sure. Remember how everyone was convinced that Luke was going to be revealed as having gone to the Dark Side? Well, maybe not everyone, but it was a popular theory, and some of the dialogue in Episode 7 sure played it up, such as Han's wistful "Yeah, I knew Luke". The trailer's going to be cut in such a way to invite speculation and wild theories, most of which will probably be wide of the mark, so I'm not buying into that one just yet.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby Sauru on Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:47 pm

Lean wrote:A new trailer, gentlemen.

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My theory is that no matter what happens, Luke will always be the last Jedi.



as in rey is good but wont truly become a jedi? because i see them making rey some super powered god of a character for no real reason at all
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby benji on Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:04 pm

Remember, the Rogue One trailer that got the most hype was not only edited in a specific way but full of shots of scenes that never even appeared in the film.

There's a high chance that dramatic shot everyone is speculating about in the trailer is from two scenes two hours apart.

Also, gotta love that long scene in a trailer of all things with the Kylo/Leia back and forth, that shit ain't in the movie like that I can tell you right off the bat. Let alone cut like that lol.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby deihatein on Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:57 am

Surprised this wasn't bumped.

So what's this board reaction to the movie?
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby [Q] on Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:25 am

It was good, but Some people were like ZOMG BEST EVAR and some hated it because it didn't go the way they wanted.

Kelly Tran did a really good job and I think her character will play a big part in the next one.

When I benecio del toro I knew it would be good
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby Sauru on Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:49 pm

if you ask me this movie ranks 9th out of all star wars movies. i didnt like it when i left the theater and as i had a couples days to think about it i started to hate it. this movie fucking sucks.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby [Q] on Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:45 pm

I felt like it spent too much time on the island and those stupid minions characters. I bet all the people who hate on the ewoks are hypocrites and love this things
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby Lean on Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:23 pm

I liked it, and say I'd put it up there with The Empire Strikes Back.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby shadowgrin on Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:37 pm

Not impressed with the climax since it's just a twist of what happened in Return of the Jedi.

Return of the Jedi: Vader turns his back to the Dark Side, disobeys and kills the Emperor, reunites with Luke.

Last Jedi: Kylo Ren disobeys and kills Snoke but instead of turning his back to the Dark Side he goes 'nope' and decides to take Snoke's place instead.


Reminds me of that shitty twist with Kirk-Spock in Star Trek Into Darkness.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby [Q] on Thu Dec 28, 2017 2:38 am

Yeah I gotta say I wasn't too impressed with the main storyline as it was very similar to the old movies when in reality they had an open canvas to do something a bit more interesting.

The whole Rose/Finn part was the best part of the story.

Although I will say I was a bit surprised they killed snoke off
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby Sauru on Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:45 am

i cant believe anyone actually liked the rose/finn story. finn was a surprise character for me in the first and i expected a lot from his character this time but the entire side story they had was nothing more than "we dont know what to do with finn so lets have him run off on some pointless mission to give him screen time"


over all the movie looked amazing but thats it. the story was on par with transformers and the fast and furious franchise. the way they shit on past star wars movies was just unforgivable to me. them jamming new creatures down our throats is nothing new but still annoying as hell also. multiple cases of forced humor and flawed logic has me ranking this movie lower than a jar jar solo flick
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby shadowgrin on Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:56 am

Sauru wrote:fast and furious franchise

The new Star Wars movies can only dream of being on par with the greatest action movie franchise of our time.

Talk shit about Fast and Furious again and I will break your walking frame old man.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby Sauru on Thu Dec 28, 2017 1:29 pm

you have a point that was insulting. sorry about that
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby [Q] on Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:06 pm

I agree they could have done more with Finn but to me it as a hell of a lot more exciting and interesting than Luke & Rey trying to redo the whole Luke & yoda thing with Minions and comic relief.

I agree there was a bit of flawed logic in the movie, so I mean it was entertaining enough but it wasn't that great either
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby shadowgrin on Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:17 am

The Rose-Finn interaction is Rush Hour Star Wars version.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby bigh0rt on Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:24 am

Sauru wrote:i cant believe anyone actually liked the rose/finn story. finn was a surprise character for me in the first and i expected a lot from his character this time but the entire side story they had was nothing more than "we dont know what to do with finn so lets have him run off on some pointless mission to give him screen time"


over all the movie looked amazing but thats it. the story was on par with transformers and the fast and furious franchise. the way they shit on past star wars movies was just unforgivable to me. them jamming new creatures down our throats is nothing new but still annoying as hell also. multiple cases of forced humor and flawed logic has me ranking this movie lower than a jar jar solo flick

I got news for ya. Nostalgia aside, the original movies weren't that great either, aside from the (for the time) visuals. Pretty similar to how you feel about the new one(s). That's what this franchise always has been, and continues to be.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby Andrew on Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:46 pm

Finally got around to seeing it tonight. I liked it well enough, It felt a bit long though, and although I felt the action was generally good, it did pad out the film somewhat.

Since the overall arc of this trilogy is that history is repeating itself, I like that they're taking things in slightly different directions, such as killing off Snoke now instead of in the third film and having Kylo Ren seemingly slamming the door on redemption. Honestly, I hope he continues down that path and the only way for the Resistance to win is to take him out. He's a kid who went down the wrong path, wants to be Darth Vader but isn't, yet is still sticking to his guns regarding the Dark Side. Even if he is conflicted, he's still set on following the path he's chosen. There may be good left in him, but it's not enough, it doesn't matter. That's what I do like about his character. It'd be a letdown if he redeems himself, because it'd be a re-tread of Vader and doesn't fit his character. He's a lost cause, he's not going to turn. Or at least, he shouldn't.

As for the death of Luke Skywalker...well, unfortunately, much like the other major character that was killed off, some joker on Twitter actually spoiled it for me because they changed their name to give away both plot points. It was handled alright though, and in a way that still made it worth watching the story unfold and had the desired impact, even though I knew in the back of my mind that it was likely going to happen and that joker was intent on being a jerk. In hindsight, the twist in that scene is one I should've seen coming, given the different appearance Luke took on as a Force projection. Trusting that the spoiler was legit, and figuring it was after the first plot point came to pass, it was still alright.

I'm not calling it one of the best Star Wars films...in fact, having just watched it, I'm not sure where I'd rank it just yet. As I said, I liked it well enough, I didn't come away feeling like I wasted my time watching it. Keep in mind that while I like Star Wars, I'm not exactly a die-hard fan of the franchise either, so I may be more forgiving than others.
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby Andrew on Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:52 am

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby benji on Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:57 pm

shadowgrin wrote:Not impressed with the climax since it's just a twist of what happened in Return of the Jedi.

You may not have noticed, but the entire new trilogy is the "first" trilogy rehashed, and seemingly deliberately so.

I won't go as far as bighort but I do like reminding people that Star Wars was always intended as sci-fi schlock based on old serials, they're what George Lucas came up with after he couldn't get the Flash Gordon license. And he never had any plan beyond the first movie where he hit onto the main hooks, the Jedi/Sith, the Empire/Rebellion and the notion that galactic non-entities (Luke and Han) can become the ultimate heroes.

Empire's "twist" was legitimately huge at the time, but it's not the lasting twist* that sells the film where ROTJ drags. It's not just the Vader revelation, it's that literally everyone gets the shit beat out of them because Vader wins. Luke loses his hand, is defeated by Vader and has to deal with the psychological impact. Han is frozen. C3PO is ripped up. Lando is made to betray them all. The rebellion gets its teeth kicked in at both the start and the end of the film. The film has no hopeful ending and no indication of how they're going to follow up. ROTJ's opening actually is arguably the "darkest" point of the original trilogy as Luke and Leia both take a step up in badass and the "team" goes all out in willing to murder anyone who opposes them directly and upend the Hutt Rule to save just Han alone, THEN they go deal with the whole SECOND DEATH STAR thing for the second half of the movie. Something which, before Lucas re-edited it and the Abrams reboot threw it out, was not the end of the war or the Rebellion or the Empire just because Vader throws the Emperor down a poorly placed endless shaft.

The Thrawn Trilogy, and the EU that originally followed, constructed a much more complete universe that logically followed what the three films showed us. With the Empire and Republic maneuvering in the wake of Jedi.

TFA and TLJ understand nothing about universe building and rehash the same points because it's Star Wars Kids making Star Wars movies as they remembered them. The characterization is just as bad. But arguably their biggest sins is that TFA literally "resets" the universe by blowing up the old one rather than deal with it. A JJ special.

*Especially if anyone views the films in their numerical order. Instead you have to watch them IV-V-(I-II-III)-VI as the prequels render Vader's "reveal" as a non-twist to the audience. (And create more questions considering Anakin has no emotions in the prequels, even slaughtering children multiple times, so why would he even care about his kid enough to topple the Emperor.)
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby SoF'nAwesome on Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:24 am

nice catch benji, an interesting read (Y)
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Postby [Q] on Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:27 am

When they did TFA I immediately knew they needed to replace the old stars with young replacements and repeat everything. That's why I liked the movie while a lot of people didn't understand that and hated it.
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