2015 Playoffs: (1) Atlanta vs. (2) Cleveland

[stereoxide]

Great comeback by the Hawks but they can't seem to stop the one man team that is LeBron James. Also Dellavedova is a cunt sorry to all his Aussie countrymen here but I don't like the way he plays. He has caused trouble with Gibson and Horford and played a part in Korver's injury (although it looks like he is just fighting for the ball).

[NovU]

Korver one looked avoidable. It's dangerous to throw your body to leg parts. Sure it could have been unintentional but you still could be more careful using your body.

Fug the Cavs.

DeMarre Carroll said after Sunday's Game 3 loss that Kyle Korver (ankle) will require surgery and could miss 4-6 months.
Korver has yet to have a second opinion and the team hasn't announced the severity of his injury, so this is all speculative for the moment. "[Korver] is one of our starters and he's gotta have surgery, he's out 4-6 months," Carroll said. His comments came in the context of Matthew Dellavedova's controversial play on Al Horford during Game 3, but Carroll's references to surgery and a timetable are too specific to ignore entirely. We'll update Korver's status once the Hawks provide more information.

It's over. There is not going to be game 4. Whoever said Cavs in 3 was right on the money. Fucker.

[koberulz]

If Korver had dived on the ball instead of waiting for it to come to him, he'd still be playing.

[Tha2KProphet]

Like I Said Cavs In Game 4

[big-shot-ROB]

There's quite a difference between being hard and being dirty. But something is clear, when you like a player, you consider him hard, when you don't like him, he is a cunt. I consider Rodman and B.Wallace hard players, on the other hand Delladova and Barnes are cunts. You know, it depends on you and wether you like the players or not, but you one thing is obvious:

-The NBA is trying to prevent hard fouls and contact, today's players are all pussys. So then, why is Horford getting ejected but they let Delly go on with all this attitude. If you are cunt or you are hard, you deal with the consequences. Tell that to Ron, Ben or Jermaine.

[Mandich]

The difference is Dellavedova plays absolutely no defense, locks his feet intentionally and keeps throwing himself in other players feet. That's moronic.

You can get away with harsh fouls if you play great defense and if you're not trying to end a players season intentionally. If you're positioning yourself in a better situation to injure someone, you're a cunt.

As for the technical fouls/ ejections, it's entirely up to the refs. How did one player get ejected and the other didn't?

The Finals start July 4th. If both GSW and CLE sweep they'll have plenty of time to prepare.

[koberulz]

The difference is Dellavedova plays absolutely no defense

Please get a clue.

As for the technical fouls/ ejections, it's entirely up to the refs. How did one player get ejected and the other didn't?

Because one player elbowed the other player in the head, and the other player did absolutely nothing?

[Mandich]

today's players are all pussys

Lol.

[Mandich]

The difference is Dellavedova plays absolutely no defense

Please get a clue.

Lol are you seriously suggesting Dellavedova is a good defender? Wtf are you smoking.

EDIT: Dellavedova is the worst defender on the Cavaliers roster by Drtg, is 11th on the roster in DWS and 17th in DBPM. He also commits 4 fouls Per/36. So much about him actually being relevant on defense other than being a part of retarded incidents.

As for the technical fouls/ ejections, it's entirely up to the refs. How did one player get ejected and the other didn't?

Because one player elbowed the other player in the head, and the other player did absolutely nothing?

I was talking about the Gibson incident.

Please get a clue.

[koberulz]

http://www.espncleveland.com/common/mor ... t_id=45761

[Mandich]

Yes because locking a guys leg after the play is done is hustling for the ball and trying to secure a possession.

[NovU]

http://www.espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&post_id=45761

Good article. It does address the real issues but that's just how it is for overly aggressive players that endangers other's safety. Like Bruce Bowen, you could say same about him that he was just a hustler. Or Kobe's elbow, or Wade's football tackle, you could say they were just trying to play good basketball, in fact, their blatant attacks actually have done less damage to the victims.

And it's a very weak argument by Webber that Delly was just trying to protect possession by throwing his body and Korver didn't dive for it thus resulting in injury. That is just BULL. You drive someone over with the car, would you blame the victim for not diving out of the car's way? It's almost Webber is blaming Korver for deliberately stepping his ankle in Delly's way.

Delly's aggressive and needs to learn to use his body in more safe manner. That's already 3 strikes on him. He deserves criticism on his way.

[koberulz]

http://www.botinagy.com/blog/two-for-th ... countdown/

And it's a very weak argument by Webber that Delly was just trying to protect possession by throwing his body and Korver didn't dive for it thus resulting in injury. That is just BULL. You drive someone over with the car, would you blame the victim for not diving out of the car's way?

That's not even slightly equivalent. Nobody's saying he should have got out of Delly's way, what they're saying is he should have dived on the ball. That would be true even if he didn't get injured.

Delly's aggressive and needs to learn to use his body in more safe manner. That's already 3 strikes on him. He deserves criticism on his way.

Bullshit.

[Mandich]

A lot of players make a career by playing overly aggressive and dangerous,

It's just all those other guys were relevant in some other point, especially defense, other than being a part of suspicious incidents.

He can do whatever he wants, but will have to deal with a lot of comments if he doesn't find a way to contribute.

You're biased when it comes to Dellavedova. It's obvious.

[NovU]

Exactly. He's rightfully under scrutiny because of his actions in short span of 4 or 5 games.

http://www.botinagy.com/blog/two-for-the-show--nba-finals-countdown/

And it's a very weak argument by Webber that Delly was just trying to protect possession by throwing his body and Korver didn't dive for it thus resulting in injury. That is just BULL. You drive someone over with the car, would you blame the victim for not diving out of the car's way?

That's not even slightly equivalent. Nobody's saying he should have got out of Delly's way, what they're saying is he should have dived on the ball. That would be true even if he didn't get injured.

This argument is ridiculous, don't you think? Korver's injury was result of Delly's aggressiveness but this argument practically shifts entire blames upon what Korver should have done differently.

Why don't we go discuss how Bowen's victims should have dived or duck to avoid kick in the face, or to avoid Kobe's people's elbows, or to evade Wade's NFL tackles.

[Sauru]

its bullshit that some people think its ok to dive at players ankles

[koberulz]

its bullshit that some people think its ok to dive at the ball

Fixed.

Exactly. He's rightfully under scrutiny because of his actions in short span of 4 or 5 games.

His actions being...elbowed in the face twice, pushed down from behind, briefly leg-locking a guy once, being pulled down, and diving on a loose ball. What a dick.

what they're saying is he should have dived on the ball. That would be true even if he didn't get injured.

This argument is ridiculous, don't you think? Korver's injury was result of Delly's aggressiveness but this argument practically shifts entire blames upon what Korver should have done differently.

Only if you ignore the sentence that comes right after the one you highlighted.

Delly dove on a loose ball. Korver didn't. Korver ended up injured. It happens. But if he'd hustled as hard as Delly, it wouldn't have.

Why don't we go discuss how Bowen's victims should have dived or duck to avoid kick in the face, or to avoid Kobe's people's elbows, or to evade Wade's NFL tackles.

None of those are valid basketball moves. Diving on a loose ball is.

[NovU]

Real issue is that he caused chaos twice by diving, ending up significantly hurting someone and second occasion being nearly as dangerous. What Korver(or any other for that matter) should have done is a non issue but his seemingly dirty plays that requires players like Korver/Horford to react in certain ways to avoid injury is a real issue. He is the root cause of reactionary mayhem like elbowing, kicking, and injury. This all happened within short time frame, week or two idk.

It's only fair for people to be concerned. He's gotta deal with it, it's the result of his aggressiveness.

[[Q]]

Millsap needs to stop shooting 3s. I haven't seen him hit one since the first round

[Alpha_]

Millsap needs to stop shooting 3s. I haven't seen him hit one since the first round

He made 1 in game 3 but yeah he should stop shooting threes.

[zz21]

LeBron needs to stop shooting 3s. I've seen him hit one since the first round

[Andrew]

Doesn't look like the Hawks are going to make this a game before their elimination.

[NovU]

No Korver, no spacing. The Hawks are still shooting 3s but 2/14 is unacceptable. This one's over.

Was hoping for the Warriors to also sweep the series for a quick Finals. Oh well.

[Alpha_]

[NovU]

Tristan Thompson looking like a dominant big. This is why size matters as long as you get at least average level skills. Individually Millsap and Horford are by far better players than Tristan and Mozgov. But it's just extremely hard to compete without a true big. Look at the problems the Heat had using Bosh and LBJ as bigs despite being superior players.