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Re: Most annoying/funny moment in game

Postby Nightfly67 on Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:03 am

JWL3 wrote:
Nightfly67 wrote: Ehm, the number of timeouts remaining is displayed right below the score.



Really? How could I have missed that? First place I looked. Thanks, I'll check it out tonight.
Right below the score there's a few yellow-ish "bars" that indicate the timeouts left for each team. It's why I said "ehm" because I can't imagine how you could have missed that, haha.
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Re: Most annoying/funny moment in game

Postby fjccommish on Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:12 am

"I hate the coach directives, especially when they are nearly impossible to attain"

I never paid attention to them while playing MyPlayer, because they made no sense. The coach told the team to keep passing the ball into the paint, but they had never passed the ball into the paint. All the in paint points came on layups by the guards or put backs on offensive rebounds from me.
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Re: Most annoying/funny moment in game

Postby Leftos on Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:18 am

fjccommish wrote:It's classic when the crying little girls accuse someone else of crying like a little girl.

A new annoying moment was when, in Myleague, heading into a second round playoff series against the Cavs, control switched from the Bulls (my team) to the Cavs. I played (watched the CPU play) the Cavs vs. Heat game seven. Lebron had been out since Feb. The series was tied at 3-3. Lebron returned for game 7. The Cavs won by double digits. When the game ended, I selected the Bulls/Cavs game 1. I wanted to adjust player minutes. But now I was controlling the Cavs. On top it showed "Current Team: Cavaliers".

There's no way to switch teams. I can't get back to the Bulls.

Not even by using LT/RT in the MyLEAGUE Landing Menu?
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Re: Most annoying/funny moment in game

Postby JWL3 on Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:59 am

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HA, funny. I wish the NBA changed the rules so that you get penalized a technical, but get the ball back - like it was in C Webb's time. A lot more gamesmanship involved. Say you're down 2 with no timeouts left and 1 second. You're pretty much toast, but if you call a time out for a technical. And the other guy hits the ft, you're down 3 but now you get the ball at half court with a chance to tie. A lot more interesting. The janitors and workers in the stadiums probably don't want this cause they want the game to end so they can quickly go home.
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Re: Most annoying/funny moment in game

Postby fjccommish on Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:03 am

Thanks for your concern about the issue.

It didn't work last night. Today I entered Myleague to try it again. It didn't work. I created a new Myleague to try changing teams in that one. LT/RT didn't change teams. I reloaded the old Myleague (the one with the problem). As soon as the landing menu appeared, the current team changed from Cavs to Bulls. Now LT/RT doesn't switch current team.
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Re: Most annoying/funny moment in game

Postby Leftos on Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:15 am

Did you select multiple teams when starting the mode? Did you select both the Bulls and the Cavs to be user controlled? So you're saying that when on this screen...

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...no buttons or triggers on your controller switch between user-controlled teams?
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Re: Most annoying/funny moment in game

Postby fjccommish on Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:43 am

No, I didn't select multiple teams. On the landing page (shown in your screenshot), no buttons switch the current team. No buttons switch between user-controlled teams. I've tried every button on the controller.

The switch to Cavs happened in the following way.

My team, the Bulls, finished their first round playoff series.

Clicked on the Cavs/Heat box in the playoff bracket. Went to daily view. Selected the Cavs/Heat game (button 2). Played the game (watched CPU vs CPU).

When the game ended, exited back to the landing page. The current team was now Cavs.
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Re: Most annoying/funny moment in game

Postby Leftos on Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:58 am

Okay, thanks, I'll look into it.
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Re: Most annoying/funny moment in game

Postby fjccommish on Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:46 am

I was able to recreate it - part of it.

- Start a new myleague
- In the playoffs, complete a series. For example, Bulls won round 1 4-1, while Heat/Cavs still playing their first round.
- Select a matchup that has not yet completed the previous round (the round your team just completed.) For example, select Heat/Cavs series.
- Select daily view, select a game, go back to playoff bracket.
- Select the same matchup. For example, Cavs/Heat
- Play the game.
- Start the game while control is selected for one of the teams. For example, user control for Cavs.
- Play the game as one team, or switch control to CPU v CPU.
- Play the game, or exit the game.
- Current team will now be switched to whichever team you started the game with user control.

I have been able to use RT to switch back to original myleague team. But last night, RT would not switch back to the Bulls (the original myleague team). It had happened after playing an entire season, and I visited a number of other screens before noticing the switch, so there may have been other actions that led to not being able to switch back to the Bulls.
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Re: Most annoying/funny moment in game

Postby Leftos on Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:48 am

That's really useful information. Appreciate it.
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Re: Most annoying/funny moment in game

Postby NastyGT on Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:45 pm

Well, this game have great graphic, impressive presentation, nice modes, and ALMOST everything is superb. Except the most important thing. If you want to play MyLeague or MyGM mode on Superstar or HOF, don`t bother. That is not even slightly enjoyable (I am writing about offline modes, superstar and HoF levels with default sliders). Why?
First, on default sliders, there will be no CPU team with shooting percentage below 75%. No matter what you do and how you play defense.
Second, ABSOLUTELY EVERY MISS you make, even if you miss second free throw, will be counter attack by CPU team. Your AI teammates will go back in defense about one or two seconds AFTER players controlled by CPU.
Third, no matter who you have in team, CPU will ALLWAYS have much more offensive rebounds than your team defensive. Much, much more, which is unbelievably annoying.
Fourth, more than 50% of actions you make, you will never see your centers in the paint, If CPU double (or even triple) your player, the ones who are alone will never move anywhere. Try to double CPU player and you will see something totally different.
Fifth, you will be amazed when you see your player flying on the floor or being pushed into audiance without any foul. If you play less 4x12 mins you will never have more than foul, or max two per quarter. No matter how you play. This is probably the most annoying thing for me...
Sixth, if you go on layup shot, or shot below basket, if some CPU player raised hand somewhere, not even close to the ball, that will not be points, but "good defense" (see below). On the other side you will be amazed how CPU players easily scores in the same 1287 situations you missed.
Seventh...I really can`t write anymore about dozens of flaws that this game has. Some things can be very slightly improved using sliders, but most of them make this game unplayable. I am talking about offline modes like MyLeague and MyGM on Superstar and HoF, because I don`t like online playing.
Leftos, this game needs serious tweaking, especially in fouls section, because some sliders do not work att all. I could post tons of ridiculous screenshots to prove this. And so many idiotic situations...
This should be good block by Caman?
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Well, IRL it would be but why bother CPU player, let`s move hand...
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This is great shot, no one is even tying to block me, except Durant who raised his hand outside visible range, 3 meters behind...
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And another great defense by CPU team...
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Re: Most annoying/funny moment in game

Postby Dee15 on Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:29 pm

can anyone tell me did you experienced technicals or flagrants except the 'run out of timeout' situations, i had several situations where i grabbed opponent players while they were driving to the basket and push them down or stopped them really hard by grabbing them but i haven't got flagrant..what do you need to do to get flagrant fouls here, they were confirmed as i can remember
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Re: Most annoying/funny moment in game

Postby Penguin66 on Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:39 pm

NastyGT wrote:First, on default sliders, there will be no CPU team with shooting percentage below 75%. No matter what you do and how you play defense.
Second, ABSOLUTELY EVERY MISS you make, even if you miss second free throw, will be counter attack by CPU team. Your AI teammates will go back in defense about one or two seconds AFTER players controlled by CPU.
Third, no matter who you have in team, CPU will ALLWAYS have much more offensive rebounds than your team defensive. Much, much more, which is unbelievably annoying.

I play on Superstar with Sim sliders, 10min quarters so I have realistic team stats and boxscore.
About shooting percentage, both CPU and me will be around 50%, someone more or less depending on the game itself ofcourse.
About counter attacks, against the teams that are known for their fast breaks I use limit transition in point of emphasis, so rarely they make it happen.
As for the rebounds, I play with Mavericks, we all know they're not very good at rebounding, but still I manage to get more rebound than opponent, both offensive and defensive, using timely made matchups and points of emphasis.

I mean, the whole game must be played planned and play at a time, if I'm not patient and start to run & gun, I get outscored 30-40 points, but when I play disciplined thorugh the whole game, I can easily take down Spurs. (first game in the season while a was getting used to the game and setiings and all, and played with no strategy, I lost to Spurs 133-89...but the next game against them I won 110-100, right now am on a 7 game winning streak)

I know there are situations the CPU (your teammates) make stupid mistakes, and CPU (opponent) make sometimes impossible things, but overall I find Superstar/Sim sliders very good this year.
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Re: Most annoying/funny moment in game

Postby Penguin66 on Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:44 pm

Dee15 wrote:can anyone tell me did you experienced technicals or flagrants except the 'run out of timeout' situations, i had several situations where i grabbed opponent players while they were driving to the basket and push them down or stopped them really hard by grabbing them but i haven't got flagrant..what do you need to do to get flagrant fouls here, they were confirmed as i can remember


I didn't get any yet..too bad, I'd like to see it happen, especially for the players with that kind of temper.
This year I like charging fouls, last year I could easily make cpu bump into me, and I couldn't make any charge call myself..this year cpu plants feet better.
I just think there is little too much screen fouls.
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Re: Most annoying/funny moment in game

Postby NastyGT on Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:05 am

Penguin66 wrote:I play on Superstar with Sim sliders, 10min quarters so I have realistic team stats and boxscore.
About shooting percentage, both CPU and me will be around 50%, someone more or less depending on the game itself ofcourse.


I played 2k13 & 2k14 on superstar all the time. In 2K15 I played only 5 games (4x8 mins) in MyLeague. I collected CPU teams stats, for example - 3pt shooting 48/44. Most of them with player defending, which is totally useless. CPU offensive rebounds - 63. My team defensive rebounds - 31. Even with 2-3 zone defence there is not a bit improvement in rebounds. In some part of the game my AI teammates not even trying to rebound, just standing there watching...

Penguin66 wrote:I know there are situations the CPU (your teammates) make stupid mistakes, and CPU (opponent) make sometimes impossible things, but overall I find Superstar/Sim sliders very good this year.


Now I am adjusting some of the sliders (offensive rebounds especially and little bit turning down CPU shooting), it helps a little, but foul sliders are not working at all. I maxed all foul sliders to 100 and turn them down to 0 and it is the same. Still got too many defensive beatings without any consequences.
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Re: Most annoying/funny moment in game

Postby bigh0rt on Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:10 am

What I have noticed, in doing some trials last night, is that when I go for a block, I leave myself suceptible to giving up Offensive Rebounds. This makes sense. So I started making a concerted effort to only go for a block of I was really in good position and felt I had a good chance at possibly blocking the ball, and not just to get a hand in a player's face. I ran quicker games, so I could try different teams and opponents, and what I found was that it stopped being a problem for me. In 4 minute Quarters, in 3 games, I allowed, 1, 1, and 2 Offensive Rebounds over the entire game. I took notice of times when I specifically didn't go for a block, and that player grabbed the Defensive Rebound for me, where I otherwise would have definitely allowed an O-Reb to the CPU. The O-Reb has been a point of issue in the 2K series for several years, but some of it may very well be on the User side. Again, it was only 3 games and short Quarters (all I had time for), but it seemed to make a noticeable difference for me, to the point where I double checked if I had tweaked the Sliders and forgotten (I hadn't).
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Re: Most annoying/funny moment in game

Postby NastyGT on Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:01 am

Did you played it on Superstar or HoF.
Considering rebounds, this is something that happens most of the time when I play the game on Superstar, no matter who are the players.
I am playing with Kings. After one miss, the ball goes to Carl Landry (I was shooting, out of sight) and Chandler Parsons. Even Landry is a little closer to the ball...
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Ball is falling down, Parsons jumps, but Landry is not moving...
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Parsons, gets the bal and Landry not weven raised his hands...
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And finally, when Parsons took the ball and touched the ground, Landry decides to jump.
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And without touching sliders this happens EVERYTIME when there are two players on ball. Mine never jumps at the same time, always much later. The only rebounds I get is when there is no opponent players in two meters radius...
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Re: Most annoying/funny moment in game

Postby bigh0rt on Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:13 am

Yes, I played on Superstar, and it sounds to me like you're struggling with controls. I have never had a player get an Offensive Rebound over the back of my own player, ever. I box out, and if I have position, I get the rebound. Considering you are allowing the CPU to shoot 75% as well, it sounds like you're just not good enough to play at that level right now, and need more time to adjust to the controls and learning curve of the game. Play on Pro until you get a better hang on defense and rebounding, and then bump back up and see if it helps. It did wonders for me.
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Re: Most annoying/funny moment in game

Postby Andrew on Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:26 am

bigh0rt wrote:What I have noticed, in doing some trials last night, is that when I go for a block, I leave myself suceptible to giving up Offensive Rebounds. This makes sense. So I started making a concerted effort to only go for a block of I was really in good position and felt I had a good chance at possibly blocking the ball, and not just to get a hand in a player's face. I ran quicker games, so I could try different teams and opponents, and what I found was that it stopped being a problem for me. In 4 minute Quarters, in 3 games, I allowed, 1, 1, and 2 Offensive Rebounds over the entire game. I took notice of times when I specifically didn't go for a block, and that player grabbed the Defensive Rebound for me, where I otherwise would have definitely allowed an O-Reb to the CPU. The O-Reb has been a point of issue in the 2K series for several years, but some of it may very well be on the User side. Again, it was only 3 games and short Quarters (all I had time for), but it seemed to make a noticeable difference for me, to the point where I double checked if I had tweaked the Sliders and forgotten (I hadn't).


When I think of how I play, I probably do jump to challenge the shot more often than not, subsequently putting me out of position for the rebound. I'll have to give that a try. (Y)
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Re: Most annoying/funny moment in game

Postby Penguin66 on Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:44 am

where do I set up bench/3pt/tall/free throw.. lineups?
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Re: Most annoying/funny moment in game

Postby Ballyoop on Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:10 pm

you can't wear any shoe beside that f default without a shoe contract. isn't that annoying?
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is this it, that's what it's all about, manny?
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Re: Most annoying/funny moment in game

Postby airjdg on Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:40 pm

Penguin66 wrote:
NastyGT wrote:First, on default sliders, there will be no CPU team with shooting percentage below 75%. No matter what you do and how you play defense.
Second, ABSOLUTELY EVERY MISS you make, even if you miss second free throw, will be counter attack by CPU team. Your AI teammates will go back in defense about one or two seconds AFTER players controlled by CPU.
Third, no matter who you have in team, CPU will ALLWAYS have much more offensive rebounds than your team defensive. Much, much more, which is unbelievably annoying.

I play on Superstar with Sim sliders, 10min quarters so I have realistic team stats and boxscore.
About shooting percentage, both CPU and me will be around 50%, someone more or less depending on the game itself ofcourse.
About counter attacks, against the teams that are known for their fast breaks I use limit transition in point of emphasis, so rarely they make it happen.
As for the rebounds, I play with Mavericks, we all know they're not very good at rebounding, but still I manage to get more rebound than opponent, both offensive and defensive, using timely made matchups and points of emphasis.

I mean, the whole game must be played planned and play at a time, if I'm not patient and start to run & gun, I get outscored 30-40 points, but when I play disciplined thorugh the whole game, I can easily take down Spurs. (first game in the season while a was getting used to the game and setiings and all, and played with no strategy, I lost to Spurs 133-89...but the next game against them I won 110-100, right now am on a 7 game winning streak)

I know there are situations the CPU (your teammates) make stupid mistakes, and CPU (opponent) make sometimes impossible things, but overall I find Superstar/Sim sliders very good this year.


I've been playing MyLeauge on HOF Difficulty with default sliders and im beating the CPU most of the time. (Not all the time) Superstar was so easy for me so after i got the grasp on how to make plays and defend intensely so i can get stops. I change to HOF so far so good you just need to be composed all the time, run plays look for open guys and always anticipate what your opponent will do your CPU teammate actually suck so you need to do all the work it sounds a little hard but trust me these CPUs are so easy to beat just be patient and learn from the mistakes youre doing every turnover you get and you wont realize youre getting better and kick their ass single handedly ;D
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Re: Most annoying/funny moment in game

Postby JWL3 on Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:32 am

Anyone else's teammates utterly useless in MyCareer? I am averaging 8 assists but would have 15 a game if these bums could finish a dang wide open layup or hit a jumper once in awhile. I swear, they are so useless. I end up scoring 50 but have lost 8 games in a row from being too exhausted to score by the time the game ends.


Also, did 2k programmers script injuries to the key players on the team that you're on? Cousins (best player on the Kings) was injured and I assume it was done so that I would be able to have an opportunity to take over. He was shooting a jumper, with no one within 15 feet of him and landed and fell to the court. Did they also intentionally program injuries to opposing teams' superstars (that you're facing) so that you're facing up against scrubs? A lot of the star PG's for the other team (CP3, Wall, Kemba Walker) are all out when I face them.
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Re: Most annoying/funny moment in game

Postby Uncle Drew on Sat Oct 25, 2014 4:52 am

bigh0rt wrote:What I have noticed, in doing some trials last night, is that when I go for a block, I leave myself suceptible to giving up Offensive Rebounds. This makes sense. So I started making a concerted effort to only go for a block of I was really in good position and felt I had a good chance at possibly blocking the ball, and not just to get a hand in a player's face. I ran quicker games, so I could try different teams and opponents, and what I found was that it stopped being a problem for me. In 4 minute Quarters, in 3 games, I allowed, 1, 1, and 2 Offensive Rebounds over the entire game. I took notice of times when I specifically didn't go for a block, and that player grabbed the Defensive Rebound for me, where I otherwise would have definitely allowed an O-Reb to the CPU. The O-Reb has been a point of issue in the 2K series for several years, but some of it may very well be on the User side. Again, it was only 3 games and short Quarters (all I had time for), but it seemed to make a noticeable difference for me, to the point where I double checked if I had tweaked the Sliders and forgotten (I hadn't).



That's all fine and good playing short qtrs. But when you increase them to 8-10 minutes, I'm sure that will change. Correct?? One thing I can say, they've made the game more challenging with ball security being paramount and much closer scores. If you don't bring your "A" game, you'll get beat. The game play is outstanding. :D
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Re: Most annoying/funny moment in game

Postby bigh0rt on Sat Oct 25, 2014 5:05 am

Uncle Drew wrote:
bigh0rt wrote:What I have noticed, in doing some trials last night, is that when I go for a block, I leave myself suceptible to giving up Offensive Rebounds. This makes sense. So I started making a concerted effort to only go for a block of I was really in good position and felt I had a good chance at possibly blocking the ball, and not just to get a hand in a player's face. I ran quicker games, so I could try different teams and opponents, and what I found was that it stopped being a problem for me. In 4 minute Quarters, in 3 games, I allowed, 1, 1, and 2 Offensive Rebounds over the entire game. I took notice of times when I specifically didn't go for a block, and that player grabbed the Defensive Rebound for me, where I otherwise would have definitely allowed an O-Reb to the CPU. The O-Reb has been a point of issue in the 2K series for several years, but some of it may very well be on the User side. Again, it was only 3 games and short Quarters (all I had time for), but it seemed to make a noticeable difference for me, to the point where I double checked if I had tweaked the Sliders and forgotten (I hadn't).



That's all fine and good playing short qtrs. But when you increase them to 8-10 minutes, I'm sure that will change. Correct?? One thing I can say, they've made the game more challenging with ball security being paramount and much closer scores. If you don't bring your "A" game, you'll get beat. The game play is outstanding. :D

Well, if you extrapolate the 4 minute quarters to 12 and multiply by 3, I'd be seeing 3 - 6 O-Red per game. That was why I included the short Quarters as a qualifier. It's not as if the rate should change.

It looked like, in 2013 - 2014, Offensive Rebounds ranged from 7 - 14 per game, from the worst to best team in the league at it, which Defensive Rebounds ranging from 29 - 34. If you're sitting anywhere in that range in the 10 - 12 minute Quarter range, you're doing well. It seems, though, that when somebody allows 10 O-Red to the other team, which sits dead in the average amount a team will allow, they think the game is broken??

It actually feels like the vast majority of the complaints about the defense and rebounding not working right so far are users who just don't play good, sound, defense; who go for too many steals and blocks, and who play their man too tight and get smoked. You can't get away with things that you used to get away with. It's refreshing. The only choice is to either adapt, or to continue to complain that a game that plays better than any of its predecessors is 'broken'.

I agree completely with you though, UD. I am loving the gameplay, and that you are punished for playing poorly.
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