Cleveland Now Frontrunner for LeBron

[Mandich]

So basically you proved that Wade is a better guard than Irving. I've never said otherwise.

So you're saying Iverson wasn't a proven scorer and ball-handler?(you need to learn to divide ball-handling from assists)

Either way, Cleveland is still better, and despite what you say you've done nothing to prove my argument wrong.

You really do run away from the main argument and start talking about stupid shit just for the sake of it.

[NovU]

CLE is better because of Irving, but he's not better than Wade? Are you out of your mind?

Your conclusion is yet CLE is better because? You say so, right.

[formx]

Never seen NovU so butthurt before. It actually kinda saddens me.

[Mandich]

Dude, I wrote a fucking paragraph mentioning like 5-6 players, not just Irving. You're making things up. get your shit together and read everything.

[NovU]

I want you to carefully look at those 5-6 players you've mentioned including Irving and see if I made up anything.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CLE/2014.html

You did.

[Mandich]

That's it you're being so freaking stupid and childlish that even I can't can't have an conversation with you. You clearly haven't comprehended anything i said but continued to go at your way.

You Freaky Alien Genotype

When you're done being so stressed by the Miami situation, maybe we could continue this.

[stereoxide]

Uh-oh LeBron better make his decision fast someone is losing his mind.

[NovU]

I was simply telling you about your bs. Irving's overrated at this stage as he's got the max already... moving on...

Well for starters, the Cavs are much deeper W/LeBron compared to the Heat. You have a point guard that is a proven shooter, ball-handler and scorer who can take some offensive load off of LeBron. His defense is shaky, but he brings a LOT to the table. Then you have Wiggins who IS a proven scorer. When you play him alongside LeBron and Irving, the pressure of him to score 30 a night which was thought when he just went to college dissappears and he can play his natural game. There's also Dion Waiters, who if not a part of the team could easily be traded somewhere else. I see him as an ideal 6th man because of his scoring ability. Then there's the much improved Tristan Thompson who is likely to come of the bench as well because LeBron would probably play the 4. Tristan Thompson AND Dion Waiters of the bench. Awesome. Oh yeah and then there's the crazy guy named Varejao. Rebounding, defense, all the other things Bosh couldn't do in Miami, he can. And he doesn't even need to score given the fact Cleveland would have so many offensive weapons, but is still liekly to score 10 a night. Gee and Miles would be veeery useful as the 15-20 minute role players, and even Bennett could contribute in a way if he gets his shit together.

Let's go to Miami.

Wade is certain to come back, but is declining and bailing more and more because of his body. Even if Bosh does come back you are right, LeBron is 30. It was clear this year he needs some more help rather then being an one man show. Bosh still brings no defense and rebounding, which in return demands LeBron to play every aspect of the game to the max, sucking his energy up every play to the max. Beasley is an idiot, Cole and Chalmers are nowhere near the level Irving is, Allen is inhuman but is 50, who do you haveleft? Oden? Granger? mcRoberts?

And you still can't see which team is the better fit? And yet I'm Delusional and my posts are stupid ?

You should've had left it at that.

NovU please.

Wiggins is not a proven scorer. He hasn't yet to play the game in the NBA. Even in college, he was subpar scorer. Have you even glanced at his stats or watched him playing actual game? Jabari Parker was better. McDermott was better. Even Wiggins's teammate Embiid out-shined him on his own team. Even then it's usual for a rookie to take 3-4 years to develop and actually start to contribute. Even that was the case for LBJ. But you are already making this stupid claim that Wiggins's a proven scorer as if he can make a positive contribution from the get go.

The problem is it's just too hard to buy any of your craps. Sorry.

[Mandich]

Wiggins is not a proven scorer. He hasn't yet to play the game in the NBA. Even in college, he was subpar scorer. Have you even glanced at his stats or watched him playing actual game?

Oh but he is and will be forhis career. I've actually watched him and please read the rest. Again you read a small part. When you pee do you continue pissing on your own pants or is this because your boyfriend could leave you?

Then you have Wiggins who IS a proven scorer. When you play him alongside LeBron and Irving, the pressure of him to score 30 a night which was thought when he just went to college dissappears and he can play his natural game.

Jabari Parker was better. McDermott was better. Even Wiggins's teammate Embiid out-shined him on his own team. Even then it's usual for a rookie to take 3-4 years to develop and actually start to contribute. Even that was the case for LBJ.

I can name at least 20 more players that are better scorers. Still doesn't change the fact he can go off every night and that he could easily average 15ppg with LeBron and Irving. If you can't see that, you're just a sore loser(or at least will be if he actually joins cleveland)

The problem is it's just too hard to buy any of your craps. Sorry.

Again, what does Miami have to offer? Still haven't heard anything from ya.

[NovU]

What makes you think playing alongside LeBron and Irving makes things only easier for Wiggins? I am telling you THAT IS JUST ABSURD. For that to happen, he needs to be a low usage high efficient player which he never has proven to be (btw which McRoberts kinda was last season, why you think he's got paid?). You want me to believe every bull crap you spew out here? That's not how people discuss here.

[Mandich]

Oh well, I'm done. I tried.

GO CAVS!

[NovU]

Sometimes trying isn't enough, especially when actual thinking needs to be involved.

[Mandich]

I'm glad you finally realized that. Maybe now you can change.

[NovU]

So you think you actually put in some serious thinking on your claims about Irving, Wiggins, and rest of crap players? I'm sad now.

[Mandich]

Don't be. If you're sad now, how will you feel if LeBron actually leaves MIA ?

[NovU]

I actually want him to leave now, just to see how your braindead assumptions fare.

[shadowgrin]

Leave NovU alone please!



Someone should give NovU a LeBron Heat jersey so he can burn it when LeBron announces his decision to take his talents to Cleveland.

[NovU]

I'd probably wear it.

[Mad-Raiiden]

Sport Illustrated just announced it: Lebron is back to Cleveland !!

https://twitter.com/SInow/status/487632034534555648/photo/1

[zz21]

[shadowgrin]

I'd probably wear it.

Don't.
Hardcore Heat fans might burn it while you're wearing it.


lol at existence of Hardcore Heat fans, wtf am I smoking.

[Phil89]

[Mandich]

I actually want him to leave now, just to see how your braindead assumptions fare.

Well there you...you got your wish. Now lets see if Miami will go over 33 wins this year, I'm intrigued.

Quote me in June.

Miami wins 30-35 game this year.

lol at existence of Hardcore Heat fans, wtf am I smoking.

[NovU]

Don't.
Hardcore Heat fans might burn it while you're wearing it.

What makes you think there're Heat fans in Canada. LoL

[Jackal]

My friends were hyped up too and argued me how they're so sure LBJ is going back to the Cavaliers, referring to '90%' article. I said, "you idiots let's make a bet", and they copped out after hearing my reasons.

You look at the situation, it makes more sense that he stays put in Miami. He met with Riley and crew personally but never had a meeting with the Cavaliers and has no plan to either. It's said that he has all the info he needs to make a decision now. His agent did make a contact with the Cavs though if it means much to anyone. As for the Cavs, they're trying to lure LBJ but at what leverage do they have? Irving's a big question mark still in development. And the roster is super thin. This team FAILED to make the playoffs and came short in every possible way. They simply aren't even a playoffs team in EAST:shake:. Remember the media fucking with CLE on how they fucked up any chance at getting LBJ back? That was until just two weeks ago. Also ask about CLE's cap situation, you're paying many scums great money. You're possibly looking at at least one wasted year for LBJ in terms of contending at the highest level though it's possible. The Heat are an instant winner over the Cavs even with salary.

"Hey but Wade's done, he sucks! So he's better off in CLE." - Sure. But Wade opted out, Bosh opted out next, and are willing to take less to improve the team that made to the Finals 4 seasons in a row. Would you ditch that for the Cavailers that isn't even a playoffs team?

Kevin Love: The Cavailers simply have to give up too much to land Love. And if LBJ doesn't come, it'd be all for nothing. If Love was a condition for LBJ to sign with the Cavs, it'd make more sense for LBJ to have more serious talk with the Cavs but he so far had ZERO meetings with them. The Cavs need to deal for Love first and tell LBJ "Hey we got him, you come now". Cost of it would be too much and risk is too vast.

If ever, LBJ decides to return to the Cavs, it'd be more for sentimental reasons. So far the media has made too much out of it as they have nothing better to do. Most signs are still leading to the Heat retaining the trio. Even Bosh has no deal in place with the Rockets yet despite the hype.

I have a feeling too much's been made out of nothing. LBJ 90% hype is just silly. It's more convincing that this is more of LBJ pressuring owner and Riley to do something and break their bank account for once ffs.

you idiots let's make a bet