Pre-Draft Hub: Joel Embiid Is A Young Zydrunas Ilgauskas D:

[Kevin]

I hope Lakers get Embiid

[stereoxide]

I'm not sold on Embiid. He's already got back issues and that's not a good sign at his age. A recent mock draft predicted the Sixers to choose him at No. 3. If both are healthy and if Embiid develops his game, they could be fun to watch... if...
Btw. Fuck you Cavs!

Sixers already have Noel they should let him prove himself first. They just need somebody to take the load of MCW like Wiggins or Parker. As for the Lakers, they will be very lucky if Exum is available when their time comes. And I agree fuck the Cavs I hope they do not suck this year though and just be a team in the middle so they do not get another lottery pick even if there is 0.0001% chance they can get it.

[NovU]

The Sixers should draft the best player possible and not on their needs which actually is everything. Noel will still have his shot whether or not for Embiid.

I'm not sold on Embiid. He's already got back issues and that's not a good sign at his age.

Good sign is that he's already everything Andre Drummond wants to be.




Embiid Imho is the most sure deal in this season's draft. He's 7'2" kid, already a monster physically. He's going to be a defensive force right off the bat, and I'm talking Roy Hibbert good. And he's got tremendous potential offensively. Worst case scenario imho for this kid is 14pts/8reb/2blk/50fg% with defensive anchor role. QMIJ2016

[stereoxide]

The Sixers should draft the best player possible and not on their needs which actually is everything. Noel will still have his shot whether or not for Embiid.

If Embiid reaches the Sixers pick undrafted then he is the best choice to draft but I highly doubt it. Cavs need a good center so do the Bucks.

[Kevin]

The Sixers should draft the best player possible and not on their needs which actually is everything. Noel will still have his shot whether or not for Embiid.

If Embiid reaches the Sixers pick undrafted then he is the best choice to draft but I highly doubt it. Cavs need a good center so do the Bucks.

BENNETT!

[shadowgrin]

I'm not sold on Embiid. He's already got back issues and that's not a good sign at his age.

Good sign is that he's already everything Andre Drummond wants to be.

Embiid Imho is the most sure deal in this season's draft. He's 7'2" kid, already a monster physically. He's going to be a defensive force right off the bat, and I'm talking Roy Hibbert good. And he's got tremendous potential offensively. Worst case scenario imho for this kid is 14pts/8reb/2blk/50fg% with defensive anchor role.

Replace the 'Embiid' with 'Oden' and you can see where this is going...

What NovU said is like reading again why Oden should be drafted ahead of Durant.

It's not like his back issues are similar to Jared Sullinger or Emeka Okafor where it happened one time during college, Embiid has back issues since he started playing in high school.

[Spree#8]

7 picks in this draft for Philadelphia.

Tanking done right. hahah

Tanking doesn't get you 7 picks in a single draft, trading for picks does.

A little fun fact is that the Sixers have traded their own 2nd rounder on 4 different occasions, each time with a different protection - all of them basically ensuring they wouldn't actually give the pick up.

The Sixers are in the top3, get the Pellies pick and neither the Celtics nor the Lakers are in the top3. Not a bad outcome, all things considered. The Cavs getting the #1 pick for the 3rd time in 4 years is ridiculous, though.

Top3 ensures that at least two of Wiggins, Parker, Embiid and Exum will be on the board when Philly picks. BPA is definitely the way to go. At this stage of the rebuild, the Sixers aren't really in a position to worry about fit with such a shortage of talent at almost every position. Noel is nothing to worry about. May I remind you that he's yet to suit up for the Sixers, which means his game is still a big question mark. We don't know anything about him that we didn't know a year ago, except that his knee appears to be fine now. Centers like Embiid aren't available too often, so if his back isn't too much of a problem, take him. Then again, if his back isn't too much of a problem, he'll most likely be gone by #3.

And if you insist on picking based on fit, Exum should be crossed off the list before Embiid. A quick, 6'6 guard with long arms who likes to play with the ball in his hands and can't shoot. Sounds familiar? Yeah, it does.

[Kevin]

Well, of course trades gets them some picks. What I meant was that they traded some of their players to get the picks. (i.e. Brandon Jennings for Knight)

[NovU]

Parker, Wiggins, and Embiid are definite top 3. 76ers can't go wrong with any of these players. Exum in top 3 is bit of stretch. He pretty much is a MCW clone at his best with his showing so far. I don't see how teams have enough reasons to pick him over any of Wiggins/Embiid/Parker trio.

I think Parker is the one that won't last till #3 for sure. So it's going to be either Wiggins or Embiid for the 76ers imo. Not bad.

such bullshit

this is how i feel. fuck this shit

Sir, why would you say that? Is Marcus Smart or Julius Randle fucking shit to you?

[Jackal]

fuck this shit

[JaoSming]

such bullshit

this is how i feel. fuck this shit

Sir, why would you say that? Is Marcus Smart or Julius Randle fucking shit to you?

yep, I dont like either player

[erudain]

The Cavs won the 1st pick in 2011 (via Clippers) with the 2,8% chances, the 2013 1st pick with the 15,6% chances and the 2014 1st pick with the 1,7% chances.

Asked a friend, expert in mathematical statistics, and he confirms me the probabilty of getting a determined result (pick 1) with said odds (2,8% - 15,6% - 1,7%) in 3 out of 4 attempts is 0,00074256%.
Or speakin plainly 7 out of 1000000 attempts.

Lets add to this that the drawing is done behind closed doors (when it could be done and broadcasted worldwide just using lottery drums).

"oohh jezz I wonder, why people says the NBA draft is rigged?"
Tim Donaghy is somewhere laughing

[benji]

It's done with team representatives present, why would they consent to a rigged lottery? Why would the owners?

The drawing itself won't be televised because nobody would watch the special because not only is the first pick is chosen first, then the second, then the third removing ANY drama or reason to watch the half hour, but it could potentially take hours to do the drawing.

[NovU]

It's done with team representatives present, why would they consent to a rigged lottery? Why would the owners?

Lots of theories. The owners can work out some kind of backroom deal along with the league that's working for the best interest of the league ofc. (Perhaps became a tradition over time?) Money's involved and so is the power, motivation's there. And at the end of the day, the NBA can do whatever it wants to. Has no legal obligation whatsoever.

As long as it's done behind the closed door, opportunity is definitely there and people will never stop being suspicious. Ping pong ball, permutation, whatever the process that's involved, why can't they do it out in the open for a change? It'd be nice.

[_Steve_]

Cleveland seems to have a strong interest in drafting Embiid at #1. This could become drafting Sam Bowie 2.0.

[NovU]

Might not be a bad choice. Kid's being compared to Hakeem.

Personally I still think Jabari should go first, Wiggins second, and Embiid third.

[benji]

Lots of theories. The owners can work out some kind of backroom deal along with the league that's working for the best interest of the league ofc. (Perhaps became a tradition over time?) Money's involved and so is the power, motivation's there. ...

As long as it's done behind the closed door, opportunity is definitely there and people will never stop being suspicious. Ping pong ball, permutation, whatever the process that's involved, why can't they do it out in the open for a change? It'd be nice.

Why would you believe any show lottery? It could just be rigged to turn up the results that they predetermined.

And at the end of the day, the NBA can do whatever it wants to. Has no legal obligation whatsoever.

Well, except for the massive one where the owners have absolute power.

[NovU]

Why would you believe any show lottery? It could just be rigged to turn up the results that they predetermined.

More transparency wouldn't hurt. That's all I was saying.

Well, except for the massive one where the owners have absolute power.

It's kinda hard to believe the NBA could pull a fast one on bunch of billionaire owners... unless they're all in it together on some sort of agreement.



That said, I'm kinda happy about the Cavs getting the first. They actually competed hard and tried to improve while bunch of losers purposely got worsened and cheered for every loss. Neither Deng and Hawes were winning moves and they were looking doomed. #1 serves them right for trying, at least a little bit in my book.

[benji]

So is your theory that the 30 separate and changing NBA owners have all agreed to give Cleveland the first pick in the draft three times in four years? And they do this because...something something tradition and money.

And none of them, not even former owners (or say...Donald Sterling), have broken the silence on this conspiracy because...ninjas?

[NovU]

Bigger scale hypocrisy goes on in our world. You have to look at all possibilities. Even ninjas. There I said it.

[benji]

Hypocrisy?

[Andrew]

If the NBA were determined to have Cleveland be a powerhouse, surely strings would've been pulled to keep LeBron there four years ago.

[benji]

You mean like void the signing for implicitly circumventing salary cap rules in some manner and then creating a special exception for the original team to pay even more while explicitly violating the salary cap?

I think that might have been just a one time thing for mega-superstar Juwan Howard.

Though it would be a second offense for Pat Riley...

[Andrew]

Well, Juwan Howard did join the Heat years later, and they won the championship. There's your proof right there...somehow...

[_Steve_]

Well, Juwan Howard did join the Heat years later, and they won the championship. There's your proof right there...somehow...

The man speaks the truth!