Nick Van Exel to Por

by **twolvezfanfoever** on Wed Jul 21, 2004 7:06 am

Nick Van Exel to portland for dale davis and dan dickau.This is an ok thang.Even though Portland has 2 point guards already.I know he feels bad.They got damon and telfair there already.Now this is gonna change thangs in the Dampier trade wit NY cuz they have another big man.So it looks like he could be headin to atlanta

by **Ruff Ryder** on Wed Jul 21, 2004 7:16 am

Hmmm. Fisher looks like he'll get to start now.

by **Mikki** on Wed Jul 21, 2004 7:43 am

You beat me to it!

ESPN.com

The Golden State Warriors traded Nick Van Exel to the Portland Trail Blazers on Tuesday for veteran center Dale Davis and backup guard Dan Dickau, a league source told ESPN Insider Chad Ford.

The Oregonian reported Tuesday that Dickau told the newspaper he had been traded. Blazers general manager John Nash would not comment when reached by the paper.

The trade is essentially a salary swap by both teams; Van Exel and Davis are in the last year of their deals.

The Warriors no longer needed Van Exel now that they've signed guard Derek Fisher. However, they did need another veteran center to back up Adonal Foyle with free agent Erick Dampier likely leaving the team through free agency. Dampier is expected to agree to a sign-and-trade deal with the Knicks this week.

The deal doesn't make as much sense for the Blazers. They have Damon Stoudamire at the point along with lottery pick Sebastian Telfair. Telfair's played so-so in the Rocky Mountain Revue summer league and may have prompted the Blazers to look for more immediate depth at the position. While the deal shores up their back court, it hampers their front court to a certain extent. Theo Ratliff is the starter, but he has a history of injuries. His only real back-up now is Vladimir Stepania. Van Exel has a $12.7 million team option on his contract next season. It's unlikely that the Blazers will pick up the team option.

by **MVP** on Wed Jul 21, 2004 7:47 am

The trade makes sense for GS, but it doesn't for Portland. Portland looses depth up front, especially with only Ratliff there...plus they have a dilemma at point guard. I see, Portland doing some more moves.

by **twolvezfanfoever** on Wed Jul 21, 2004 7:49 am

If they make another move,bye bye damon.Telfair and Van Exel is gonna run da show for a couple years

by **-BHZMAFIA-** on Wed Jul 21, 2004 8:45 am

I had put that trade in the Dampier thread about 3 hrs ago.

by **Bill Russell** on Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:45 am

I like the move. Finally we'll be contending for the first spot. In the lottery. :crazy:

by **twolvezfanfoever** on Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:52 am

Gotta keep the faith (in winnin i mean(winning games))

by **Micchy_boy** on Wed Jul 21, 2004 1:40 pm

van exel will play both guard position, more probably in SG position. why??? unless they trade damon they will have nick,damon, telfair in Pg and anderson on SG. and they lost davis leaving only theo on center position. bad bad trade for portland. and i once read this that nick will retire unless he play for a texas team???

signing fish only gave us a hint that either speedy or nick will go. so the winner was nick coz GS was dissapointed on nick last season. they got dickau a player might see more minute (on the bench) and davis a veteran that can help GS on Center position with Foyle (and Nazr).

by **kevC** on Wed Jul 21, 2004 1:41 pm

Their frontcourt is fine they have Ha Seung-Jin!! :lol:

by **twolvezfanfoever** on Wed Jul 21, 2004 1:49 pm

kevC wrote:Their frontcourt is fine they have Ha Seung-Jin!!

what da hell?

by **Jay-Peso** on Wed Jul 21, 2004 2:43 pm

Wow!

Nicky has been going to a lot of different teams lately.

Nicky is awesome, I just hope he will school some people while he's in Portland.

by **Fresh8** on Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:21 pm

Telfair WILL start this year...he was drafted to!

by **Mikki** on Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:39 pm

Sit wrote:Telfair WILL start this year...he was drafted to!

Telfair's played so-so in the Rocky Mountain Revue summer league and may have prompted the Blazers to look for more immediate depth at the position

Bluesky · by **Andrew** on Wed Jul 21, 2004 11:51 pm

He wasn't happy in Golden State and I don't think he'll be much happier in Portland. I don't think he's prepared to be a backup for Telfair or Stoudamire, a role he accepted in Dallas a couple of years back with Nash starting ahead of him.

Acquiring NVE might encourage the Blazers to get rid of Stoudamire, but NVE's injury woes last season might make them a little wary of doing so. Right now they have plenty of depth at point guard, it's just a matter of that talent being able to share PT.

by **FanOfAll** on Thu Jul 22, 2004 2:20 pm

kevC wrote:Their frontcourt is fine they have Ha Seung-Jin!!

Considering they're about 17ish deep, he's probably overseas for a season :wink:

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The trade makes sense for GS, but it doesn't for Portland. Portland looses depth up front, especially with only Ratliff there...plus they have a dilemma at point guard. I see, Portland doing some more moves.

For sure, the SAR for Kittles + ADub rumors have heated up again, but POR wants Collins and POR is reportedly getting LAC's pick via NJ (lottery protected next year, unprotected in 06).

van exel will play both guard position, more probably in SG position. why??? unless they trade damon they will have nick,damon, telfair in Pg and anderson on SG.

The case for NVE playing PG? Telfair is raw (although IMO he's ready to contribute), their wing is stacked with DA, Woods, Outlaw, Frahm, Patterson, Khyrapa, and possibly Miles. They're interested in Darius Rice but they'd be crazy to clog that wing up more.

I don't really like this deal for either team. IMO the W's could've gotten more value back than 2 DD's, one who is over the hill and the other who sucks and doesn't know how to run a team. The best thing is that DD's cntract is expiring...and the W's have a team option for Dickau. As for the Blazers, they already have a shooting guard in a point guard's body in Damon who isn't a fan of passing the ball...and now they bring in NVE? If NVE is happy coming off the bench (or Damon doing that same role) and both buy into a share the ball, get the ball to Zach type system, it's not a bad deal. The question...is whether or not NVE will be happy. NVE does, however, give them a leader on the court by action and a go to man down the stretch, who ironically was Damon last year. NVE is reportedly excited about this opportunity after Sam I Am (the Alien) told him they were more afraid to face the Blazers than the Nuggets. There's also a team option next year if they want to free some cap space...

by **air gordon** on Thu Jul 22, 2004 4:04 pm

most of those guys you mentioned there are SF's other then the oft-injured DA. they definitely could use a legit sized SG who can hit an outside shot

by **FanOfAll** on Thu Jul 22, 2004 4:09 pm

crawford4MIP4real wrote:most of those guys you mentioned there are SF's other then the oft-injured DA. they definitely could use a legit sized SG who can hit an outside shot

Woods, Outlaw (yes he's 6'9" but he's playing some 2), Frahm are mostly 2's, Patterson can play some 2. They do need a legit SG who can hit the outside shot, but NVE isn't a "legit sized" for a 2 at all. That's also the reason they've signed Frahm (who I hope gets play time), tried out Rice, and have had Outlaw work on that shot which is coming along real nice. In crunch time though, when they're down at least, I would expect NVE to be in there with Damon.

by **XianeX** on Fri Jul 23, 2004 12:37 am

ruffryder8 wrote:Hmmm. Fisher looks like he'll get to start now.

Speedy Claxton is superior to Fisher so I highly doubt Fisher will start.

MVP wrote:The trade makes sense for GS, but it doesn't for Portland. Portland looses depth up front, especially with only Ratliff there...plus they have a dilemma at point guard. I see, Portland doing some more moves.

Portland still has Shareef (I think) and Zach Randolph so they don't lose that much depth up front. Although I think Nick the Quick will be moved around a bit more.

throwbackeckotl wrote:If they make another move,bye bye damon.Telfair and Van Exel is gonna run da show for a couple years

Van Exel is past his prime. He's pretty bad. This past year, he did NOTHING to help the Warriors, except faked his injuries. I'm glad he sat out our whole year, our team was probably better without him.

Tales wrote:I like the move. Finally we'll be contending for the first spot. In the lottery.

I highly doubt it. Dale Davis is still a quality center, he should be a backup but he gives us interior toughness, something we've been lacking. Dan Dickau never got his time to shine so I won't be surprised if he plays decently this season.

by **Jackal** on Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:03 am

I assume Van Exel & Abdur-Rahim could be on the move, Abdur-Rahim expressed dislike whilst playing in Portland.

Ratliff & Randolph are pretty good upfront, although Ratliff is injury prone.

by **FanOfAll** on Fri Jul 23, 2004 9:20 am

Jackal wrote:I assume Van Exel & Abdur-Rahim could be on the move, Abdur-Rahim expressed dislike whilst playing in Portland.

Ratliff & Randolph are pretty good upfront, although Ratliff is injury prone.

NVE seems happy with POR. SAR to NJ for Williams/Kittles/future 1st is heating up again. Nash wants Collins though and the LAC pick though...

by **Jackal** on Fri Jul 23, 2004 9:57 am

Hmm, so maybe Nick might not be on the move afterall. Stoudemire? Seriously, these two are overpaid, one of them has to go..

by **-BHZMAFIA-** on Fri Jul 23, 2004 10:33 am

Jackal wrote:Hmm, so maybe Nick might not be on the move afterall. Stoudemire? Seriously, these two are overpaid, one of them has to go..

It's Stoudamire :lol:

and yes I think Stoudamire will be on his way out. I think they should trade him for a pretty good SG/SF if they can't sign Dmiles. They could go after someone like Josh Howard since the Mavs may trade him.

by **FanOfAll** on Fri Jul 23, 2004 5:11 pm

Jackal wrote:Hmm, so maybe Nick might not be on the move afterall. Stoudemire? Seriously, these two are overpaid, one of them has to go..

Oh don't worry :wink:

, both are expiring (well NVE has a team option...) but I thin both will stay for this season.

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