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Postby Jackal on Tue Jun 22, 2004 3:03 am

I didn't exlcude that, did I? I said EVEN, thus an addition, I didn't leave out his clutch shooting.

Folks get offended so quickly. :lol:

What I meant to say was: With Jackson around, Kobe was told to stop.

Now that he's going to be the "man", who's going to stop him? Rudy T? Heh, it'll be like Iverson in Philly, the coaches ass will get sacked. Buss adores Kobe too much to have him not do whatever he wants, even if it is shooting 12 of 45. :lol:
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Postby . on Tue Jun 22, 2004 3:47 am

Lol, dont go out and talk like Im offended and all, you are the one who is making a big deal out of it :lol:.

Dont fool yourself now, you did leave out the good things Kobe does. You didnt make a addition to his clutch shooting, you just made a addition to Magiuss post by saying even if it would cost the game, So I helped you with adding another thing which you forgot to post, and now Im offended....yeah right :wink:



I feel a big ass excuse post coming up :lol:
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Postby Jackal on Tue Jun 22, 2004 3:49 am

You must be Nostradamus, woops, no...no excuse here.

I didn't mention his clutch shooting for a few obvious reasons, that's what we have guys like yourself here for. Ya'll do enough Kobe Chanting, I won't go into that. :)
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Postby . on Tue Jun 22, 2004 3:54 am

that's what we have guys like yourself here for

So how am I offended?
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Postby Jackal on Tue Jun 22, 2004 5:26 am

Offended was probably the wrong term to use.

What I meant was don't get so touchy about Kobe, I just posted something bad about Kobe and bam, a Kobe fan retorts telling me about his greatness.

It's always been this way, anyone who criticizes Kobe, is either attacked and/or a comment is made reminding us of how great Kobe is. :lol:
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Postby . on Tue Jun 22, 2004 5:39 am

And when someone posts something bad about Shaq, then his fans do the same, including you. You know thats the truth.

You can post anything bad you want, I dont care....but I will do the same but I post his good things, and whenever I/we (Kobe fans) do that we either praise his greatness or ride his dick or whatever :roll:

We support our favourite player just like you do, and yet you dont see me complaining, you are just blaming Kobe for every negative part of Lakers game since the Lakers managment decided that they rather want Kobe instead of your favourite player.
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Postby Jackal on Tue Jun 22, 2004 5:49 am

Lol, I blame the Lakers management because they are going for a project instead of trying to win. :cool:

I think I'm one to criticize Shaq the most, since most of the other fans are either telling us how great Kobe played or what he's gonna do in the next game.

I always try to balance it out by giving my views on how every player did, including players like George. You act as if I've only got negative stuff to say about Bryant, no, when Bryant fucks up, I say it. You folks just dislike me saying it. When Shaq stinks at his free-throws, I say it. When Shaq talks bullshit, I say it. You folks however, have an excuse for practically EVERYTHING Kobe does wrong.

Shaq is my favorite player, I'll give you that. But LA is my favorite team, I would rather see LA win for 2 more years than see LA be a mediocre team for 5-6 years to come. Ofcourse, you don't mind since it is your God we're building around. Building for waht? I thought winning was important. :roll:

Go read that article in the Kobe thread, it sums up everything I've said since Buss has alienated Shaq.

Ofcourse, you won't agree with what's said, it is Kobe we're talking about. :twisted:
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Postby Amphatoast on Tue Jun 22, 2004 6:10 am

ah yes, the Shaq lover vs. Kobe lover.
I think we have a Shaq & Kobe here on the forum :lol:
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Postby . on Tue Jun 22, 2004 6:27 am

Look, stop dreaming. The Lakers wont win anymore in this situation, there is a team that showed them that they are better then the Lakers are and will probably defeat LA again if there wont be any offseason changes. This are not the Lakers who would crush everyone who was in their sight like in the 3-Peat run. The Lakers managment realized that and they decided that its time to look in the future instead of watching their team getting old and losing big games in the playoffs.

And what, you think I only praise Kobe and have nothing negative to say about him at all? check out your msn chatlogs and check the Lakers-Spurs and Lakers-T-Wolves threads and say that again, I to get mad when Kobe is playing terrible, same with Shaq, same with Malone, GP, George and all the guys and I always posted that. dont tell me I didnt.

And I did read that article, and I disagree. Phil made a shitload of money....for what? Admit it, he coached terrible the past 2 years, even he said so about last year. When the Lakers had a 10-0 run something against them, he wouldnt call timeouts, alot of these runs made the Lakers lose games, I dont know what he did with all the big ego´s if that is what makes him so great, but I post what I see, and I see a coach with terrible timing and sitting there on the bench like he doesnt give a damn about the game and seems to enjoy mind games with his players more then the real games.

I know Shaq cant be replaced, but Ill say it again....they wont win like this, they are not the best team anymore, not even with the addition of Payton and Malone. They wont win in the present so they should look in the future and hope that they will build a better championship caliber team.

And you call Kobe my God? what the fuck? you are just mad that my god is more important to the Lakers managment then your god :lol:

Please stop calling Kobe my god, girfriend or whatever...if you dont got anything else to backup, then just dont.

ah yes, the Shaq lover vs. Kobe lover.
I think we have a Shaq & Kobe here on the forum

Lol :lol:
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Postby Jackal on Tue Jun 22, 2004 8:43 am

*sigh* Let's just keep the insults till next season, otay?

I didnt mean they would win with this team. :roll:

A team built around Shaq would win faster than a team built around Kobe at the moment. Lots of guards, not many big men in the league of Shaq.

Jackson? Wtf? Who's talking bout Jackson? The article just goes to prove that some people agree that choosing Kobe over Shaq wasn't the best possible choice to make if you want to win, RIGHT now.

I'm done here, we will get our chance to see Shaq play without Kobe and Kobe play without Shaq. May the best player win. (Y)
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Postby magius on Tue Jun 22, 2004 9:33 am

considering the types of players available it looks like the lakers could still be a fairly good, deeper squad. Unless dallas or memphis gets shaq it looks like some team is going to get seriously depleted depth chart wise. I think dallas and memphis are the 2 most realistic choices considering i cant see many teams assessing their lineups after a trade and not seeing a lot of holes. But then again, its probably worth the risk, and maybe you could sign some filler in the offseason. I wonder who the lakers could get to fill the whole in the middle and to shotblock though? I haven't seen a proposed deal with that kind of player....... maybe they could make it 3 way, get dampier?
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