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Shaq: "I feel a sign of disrespect, I really do."

Postby Jackal on Sat May 29, 2004 5:58 am

LOS ANGELES -- You show up at practice to see how the big man is feeling, to glean some of Shaquille O'Neal's wit and off-kilter wisdom. Maybe a one-liner or two, in which the indomitable center of the Los Angeles Lakers refers to himself as "The Diesel" or "The Daddy," anything to get you past that first deadline.

And then he blurts out, "I feel a sign of disrespect, I really do."

Huh?

"Because they make promises and they don't stand for them."

What promises? The Lakers?

"When I first got here, I was told, 'You win, you get whatever you want.' And I was like, 'Okay. For real?' "

You ask him again to clarify. "Listen, I feel a sign of disrespect. No other center in the league has done more than I've done. I got my last extension three years ago. And that's up."

Nineteen points, 19 rebounds, 3 blocks, a 3-1 series lead after Thursday's 92-85 Game 4 victory. Part of you wants to tell Jerry Buss to hurry up and pay. Or else.

Another part of you wants to ask O'Neal what he is thinking. He is still under contract for two more seasons and, by league rules, cannot sign another three-year extension until after July 1. This cannot be about money.

Besides, he is creating leverage for himself almost every night this spring, using that 7-foot-1, 340-something frame to pulverize inferior basketball players. His team, basically Showtime Revisited for the past five years, was but six wins away from another championship prior to Game 4 of the Western Conference finals against a team led by Kevin Garnett, the league's reigning most valuable player.

Winning, a healthy family and a lifetime supply of Nestle Crunch is not enough?

"It's not about that," O'Neal said. "I go home and I got a beautiful wife and beautiful kids. My son actually thinks I'm a superhero. Shareef watched 'Steel' the other day," he said, referring to a movie featuring O'Neal that did not quite make it to Cannes. "He came downstairs and saw the real thing. He really thinks I'm a superhero. That's better than any championship I've ever won."

So what is it about? Kobe? Referees? Music and film critics?

"None of that."

Now, before the Shaq-wants-out theory gains steam, know this: O'Neal is not going anywhere. Not if the Lakers want to continue filling the building and adding banners to Staples Center's rafters.

More likely, Shaq, being one of the most sensitive big men since Shrek, needs to be shown some love. Nice uplifting homilies about how Buss, the owner, insists again and again he retire a Laker. This should be followed promptly by financial tenderness, the way to every elite athlete's heart.

The Lakers have said they will ensure O'Neal is annually the highest-paid player in the game. But you wonder if they're using Garnett's extension of last summer as the benchmark. In that deal, Garnett goes from $28 million one season to $17 million the next, followed by annual incremental raises. You could see the O'Neal camp raising a fuss if they wanted him to take a pay cut in any year of an extension.

Either way, this is more about the team's tone than dollars. Not even a man who can devour an entire Louisiana crunch cake by himself will go hungry.

Once the Lakers are able to sign the big lug to another three-year option on July 1, they should. But the tenor of their contracts talks so far has been more wait and see. You wonder if this tact by the club has not motivated O'Neal to go out and prove he still is the X-factor in the playoffs, the player no one else can guard or defend, the one guy who nullifies home-court advantage when he is getting position and the ball.

He has joked with writers recently, saying he thinks he's getting traded. But beneath the humor, a small part of him wants to know they would never dangle him in the open market for a Jermaine O'Neal or some other post player that can't get to the rim in the final minutes of a physical playoff game.

Mitch Kupchak, the Lakers' general manager, is not blind. He has seen the league get younger and quicker while O'Neal has at times grown older and slower. He also has seen one of the last great American-born centers, maybe one of the top three of all time, find his game and passion again.

Personally, I think O'Neal realizes he has maybe three to five good years left. He is 32, but the toll taken on his body from all the punishment probably puts his spine at about 45 and his anterior cruciates at maybe 40. He briefly got off the path of becoming the most important player of his generation. Now he sees that path again, as clearly as the Lakers see another title. He probably wants to maximize his talent and not be taken for granted. He wants the ball.

"When I don't got it no more, I'm going to come in and say, 'I don't got it no more. I'm going to do something else,'" he said. "But I still got it. I'm going to have it until I'm 37 -- I promise you. Then, at 37, if I still want to play, I'll do all that other stuff. But I'm not Luc Longley, I'm not Mitch Kupchak. I'm not comfortable taking 10 shots now."

So you want to be viewed as one of the greatest?

"That term has been given away so loosely now, it's not a term I really worry about it anymore," he said. "When I was young, to be called the greatest, whoa. But now, you guys call [Tim] Duncan the greatest. You call Jermaine O'Neal the greatest. Nobody really knows. However, when I'm done, my name will be set in the NBA bible. And that's what it's all about.

"I know what I did. I know I changed the rules. I know they flop because of me, they whine and they cry because of me. I could just put a little toe in the lane and they'll be jumping over there, 'Three seconds! Three seconds!' So that's telling me something. The greatest? I don't know. Different time, different era.

"However, though, there is a secret big man alliance."


He actually leaned over to whisper this revelation.

"Yeah, all the big men respect me. All the big men say, 'That cat can play.' It means the world to me because I represent them well. Robert Parish respects me. Artis Gilmore respects me. Jon Koncak respects me. Wilt Chamberlain respected me. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar respects me. David Robinson respects me. Hakeem "The Dream" respects me.

"And I'm in the top three of that alliance. Of all those names, I may not be one. I may not be two. But I know I'm top three."

Hold up. Jon Koncak?

"Well, Koncak was just a name that came up. Actually, you know why I call him a great center? He paved the way for me. He was the first one to get that $15 million for five years."

All those declarations about this not being about the money? Never mind.


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Source - Washington Post.

*sigh* I love this guy, he is awesome, I have not seen such dominance since MJ left. Awesome. I will never ever forget I saw this man play and I will make it a point to meet him someday. When I do, I will tell him he sucks at free-throws, give him some of his own wit.

But seriously, Shaq, play on man, play on. (Y) Tim Duncan may be great, I won't say he's not, but for me Shaq is the best, call me biased, that's how I am.

He may be fat according to some, he may be rude according to some, but when he's got it going, he's got it going. Shaq will be remembered as one of the best to play basketball, ever. You can quote me on that one.
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Postby KillaCam1100 on Sat May 29, 2004 6:13 am

"Shaq is a big ass baby" - Kobe
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Postby matmat8 on Sat May 29, 2004 10:00 am

I don't think we will remember shaq that long...actually i was wondering who will people remember in another 100 years i mean there are already so many players and "hall of famers" :!: :?:
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Postby Fresh8 on Sat May 29, 2004 10:24 am

Go Shaq! He mentioned Luc Longley!
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Postby . on Sat May 29, 2004 10:25 am

matmat8 wrote:I don't think we will remember shaq that long...actually i was wondering who will people remember in another 100 years i mean there are already so many players and "hall of famers" :!: :?:

Dont remember Shaq that long?

He is concidered being the greatest center of all time and the most dominant player ever. The NBA even changed the rules because of him, so that he wouldnt dominate his defenders. Shaq will be a legacy once his career has ended, believe me
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Postby matmat8 on Sat May 29, 2004 10:30 am

The best center ever :?
Im thinking of wilt and abdul-jabbar just to say 2 that are better to me.
Shaq is the most dominant player since mj as psycho jackal said and a great center who we will remember but not as the best center ever for me (u can add the dream too)
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Postby Andrew on Sat May 29, 2004 2:10 pm

I don't know if I'd feel too disrespected if I were still getting over $20 million just to play basketball. But hey, if the Lakers want to pay him as much he wants, that's a much better situation than letting him go and perhaps facing him at least four times a year.
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Postby Jackal on Sun May 30, 2004 3:32 am

Exactly, any team Shaq goes to will be turned into a contender, with his presence alone.

I would rather have Shaq play for us instead of having him play against us.

*gasp* Just imagined it, it's not a pretty sight. :o *gasp*
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Postby hmm on Mon May 31, 2004 12:02 am

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Postby Matt on Mon May 31, 2004 12:18 am

I'd say Hakeem was the greatest C of all time...but lets not argue bout this for once
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Postby hmm on Mon May 31, 2004 12:21 am

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Postby Amphatoast on Mon May 31, 2004 3:27 am

that was a young shaq, less than 5 years of nba experience, vs Hakeem in his prime.

anyway Shaq is getting paid 26mill this year. that's a lot plus..you can't have all the money in the world since there are salary caps in the NBA unlike baseball.
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Postby hmm on Mon May 31, 2004 10:19 pm

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Postby matmat8 on Tue Jun 01, 2004 12:51 am

Homer wrote:dont they have salary cap in Baseball ?


It seems they don't...
These guys don't even run...they just wait on the field and go bat a time or two each game and get paid millions :? 'a little exagerated i know...)
I want to be a baseball player too :P
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Postby Amphatoast on Tue Jun 01, 2004 1:04 am

Homer wrote:dont they have salary cap in Baseball ?


yankees payroll is like $180million while some small market teams is only like $50million
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Postby Bang on Tue Jun 01, 2004 1:18 am

Shaq? not remembered? Shaq has 3 championships. That's enough to make people remember. People changed rules because of Shaq. You should know that the 3 second violations were made to stop Shaq. As well as all the zoning and etc.
There are so many annoying fools that think Shaq has no skill, no talent, that he's too big. Well Oliver Miller is quite HUGE and so is Shawn Kemp. They're not quite dominant are they?
I wish people would shut up about downgrading Shaq like that. I don't think MJ was criticized as much. (MJ was criticized, but not as much...I think most people loved MJ even though he dominated.)
Shaq is still the most dominant center. Shaq needs more love.
There is no way Shaq will move out of LA. If he does, I might have to change teams.
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Postby . on Tue Jun 01, 2004 5:54 am

bangyounh wrote:Shaq? not remembered? Shaq has 3 championships. That's enough to make people remember. People changed rules because of Shaq. You should know that the 3 second violations were made to stop Shaq. As well as all the zoning and etc.
There are so many annoying fools that think Shaq has no skill, no talent, that he's too big. Well Oliver Miller is quite HUGE and so is Shawn Kemp. They're not quite dominant are they?
I wish people would shut up about downgrading Shaq like that. I don't think MJ was criticized as much. (MJ was criticized, but not as much...I think most people loved MJ even though he dominated.)
Shaq is still the most dominant center. Shaq needs more love.
There is no way Shaq will move out of LA. If he does, I might have to change teams.

Well, people respected Michael Jordan, but he dominated the league simply because of his basketball skills, bot because of his strenght or whatever, Im not taking anything away from Shaq, I love the guy (no homo)...but lets be serious, he wouldnt dominate of ot wasnt for the huge body he has
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Postby Colin on Tue Jun 01, 2004 9:02 am

bangyounh wrote:You should know that the 3 second violations were made to stop Shaq.
That rule was around in Chamberlain's time. :roll:
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Postby Bang on Wed Jun 02, 2004 12:22 am

http://www.detnews.com/2001/pistons/010 ... 211872.htm

I meant defensive three seconds...hehe :o - -;;
Actually what's more important is that zone D was legalized in 01 due to NBA owners wanting to stop Shaq.
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Postby Bang on Wed Jun 02, 2004 12:24 am

Shaq is strong, that's a physical talent.
MJ was fast, that's a physical talent.
Oh well, I am kind of stretching it, but you get the idea.
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Postby hmm on Wed Jun 02, 2004 12:33 am

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Postby Jackal on Wed Jun 02, 2004 7:10 am

bangyounh wrote:Oh well, I am kind of stretching it, but you get the idea.


Kind of stretching it? Kind of? That's stretched so much you couldnt stretch anything more than that's been stretched. :?
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Postby Repole on Wed Jun 02, 2004 7:33 am

ok lemme just step in here before benji sees this and explodes.

Wilt is the best center of all time, and the best player of all time. come on, 30.1 pts, 22.9 rebounds, 4.4 ast, no one will ever come close to those numbers, ever. I cant find block stats on wilt, but i'm sure they were better than Shaqs or Hakeem's...
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Postby Amphatoast on Wed Jun 02, 2004 9:46 am

Wilt was a pimp too, I heard he slept with over 1000 women throughout his career. :shock:
Wilt in his days was like what a 8'3" guy would be today, unstopable
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Postby Andrew on Wed Jun 02, 2004 12:36 pm

Repole wrote:I cant find block stats on wilt, but i'm sure they were better than Shaqs or Hakeem's...


Technically speaking, they aren't. Wilt Chamberlain recorded 0 blocks for his career, as blocked shots were not recorded during his career. His blocking numbers would certainly be impressive had that statistic been recognised.
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