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Re: Young Players Who Have the Most Potential

Postby Lamrock on Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:35 am

Javale McGee was absolutely their best player last year. He was the only player to bring positive contributions to the team, providing the team's only defensive presence (and I mean only). Wall was pretty ineffective, shooting very poorly, lot's of TO's, missed 13 games to injury, etc. Nick Young is a backup-caliber SG that just takes a lot of shots - a.k.a. a star in your book. Blatche was a disaster all year.

Bargs doesn't defend or rebound and isn't efficient offensively. He's played out of position but playing the 3 is not an option due to his complete and utter lack of ability to guard 3's. Gallo was forced to play a lot of 4 in New York and he did just fine.
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Re: Young Players Who Have the Most Potential

Postby Cruzerr on Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:29 am

NovU wrote:Cruzerr: This guy's amazing but is being held back by 10 other guys on the field. He should find his Miami Heat and team up with other superstars. Perhaps we can see another The Decision on ESPN.


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Re: Young Players Who Have the Most Potential

Postby atlwarrior on Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:19 am

The young players on my list: Kevin Love, John Wall, Kemba Walker, Kyrie Irving, DeMarcus Cousins, Paul Millsap, Wilson Chandler, Ty Lawson, Brook Lopez, Darren Collison, James Harden, Stephen Curry, Tyreke Evans, Brandon Jennings ( :lol: I know, I know), Kyle Lowry, Michael Beasley, Jeff Teague, Tyler Hansbrough, James Harden, Omer Asik, Nolan Smith.

That's all I have for now.
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Re: Young Players Who Have the Most Potential

Postby Andrew on Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:26 am

Lamrock wrote:Andrew, Oh, I didn't mean that as an attack on Rose persay. I reckon D-Rose will have a season that truly is deserving of the MVP award and probably not win it that year. The award usually is given to the right player in the wrong season anyway (see Kobe winning it in 2008 of all years), but I think the days of him being the best player in the league are still ahead of him.


Ah OK, fair call.
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Re: Young Players Who Have the Most Potential

Postby Solaris Phase Two on Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:02 am

I think

Marcus Morris Rockets

Markieff Morris Suns

Keith Benson Hawks

and also Jimmer!
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Re: Young Players Who Have the Most Potential

Postby _Steve_ on Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:56 pm

Dmastawwe wrote:I think

Marcus Morris Rockets

Markieff Morris Suns

Keith Benson Hawks

and also Jimmer!


Let's hope Jimmer won't become the next AMMO. He might be slightly overrated by now...
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Re: Young Players Who Have the Most Potential

Postby Kenny on Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:20 pm

Even if Jimmer ends up being a bust, he'll probably still have a cult following.

Anyway, I'm interested to see how Kawhi Leonard does in the NBA. If the Spurs traded for him, he must have a lot of potential, because they sure know how to draft good players.
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Re: Young Players Who Have the Most Potential

Postby rise on Sun Oct 16, 2011 4:25 pm

SteveHTOWN wrote:Let's hope Jimmer won't become the next AMMO. He might be slightly overrated by now..
i don't expect him to be as big a bust as AMMO, but the way he was raved about last season, if he's anything less than Reggie Miller, then he's a bust. :lol:

Right now, I see him as a point guard version of Kyle Korver, with upside.
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Re: Young Players Who Have the Most Potential

Postby _Steve_ on Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:14 pm

I really hope that Jimmer is able to transform his shooting game into the NBA.
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Re: Young Players Who Have the Most Potential

Postby NovU on Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:23 pm

z02 wrote:
SteveHTOWN wrote:Let's hope Jimmer won't become the next AMMO. He might be slightly overrated by now..
i don't expect him to be as big a bust as AMMO, but the way he was raved about last season, if he's anything less than Reggie Miller, then he's a bust. :lol:

Since when two time world chamption gets labeled a bust? And anything less than Reggie? That makes up everyone in today's league in exception of perhaps say 5 players.
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Re: Young Players Who Have the Most Potential

Postby _Steve_ on Sun Oct 16, 2011 8:33 pm

NovU wrote:
z02 wrote:
SteveHTOWN wrote:Let's hope Jimmer won't become the next AMMO. He might be slightly overrated by now..
i don't expect him to be as big a bust as AMMO, but the way he was raved about last season, if he's anything less than Reggie Miller, then he's a bust. :lol:

Since when two time world chamption gets labeled a bust?

My bad. Maybe that's just my anger because he shaved his stache of...

NovU wrote:And anything less than Reggie? That makes up everyone in today's league in exception of perhaps say 5 players.

We'll see if we can put Jimmer on the "big bust list" in some years or not. To be honest, I don't see him to become the next Reggie Miller. I'll never forget how he killed the Knicks.
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Re: Young Players Who Have the Most Potential

Postby NovU on Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:39 pm

At the moment, I gotta go with Mark Price than Reggie, for Jimmer.

And as for John Wall discussion which I missed... His rookie season was quite disappointing. For him to deserve an All-Star spot, he'll really really need to improve, A LOT. I remember comparing this guy to Steve Francis before the last season. And it turned out that Wall sucked a lot more than Francis in his rookie season. But then again, Francis was 22 years old when he was rook. So maybe Wall will become close to or better than Francis by that age. But Lamrock's right about his rookie year being a bad one.
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Re: Young Players Who Have the Most Potential

Postby Martti. on Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:19 am

Jimmer shooting will fit right in, it will be his ability to run the team as a PG (Since I've noticed they don't want Tyreke playing point) and defend guys like Rose, Rondo and Westbrook that remains doubtful.
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Re: Young Players Who Have the Most Potential

Postby _Steve_ on Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:53 am

Martti. wrote:Jimmer shooting will fit right in, it will be his ability to run the team as a PG (Since I've noticed they don't want Tyreke playing point) and defend guys like Rose, Rondo and Westbrook that remains doubtful.

That's something I'd really like to leave to Tyreke because of his size, speed and strength. We'll see how Kings will use both of them together...
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Re: Young Players Who Have the Most Potential

Postby rise on Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:25 am

Martti. wrote:Jimmer shooting will fit right in, it will be his ability to run the team as a PG (Since I've noticed they don't want Tyreke playing point) and defend guys like Rose, Rondo and Westbrook that remains doubtful.

Forget Rose and Westbrook, I'm not sure if Jimmer can defend the likes of DJ Augustin. :lol: I'd rather have Evans defending them
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Re: Young Players Who Have the Most Potential

Postby Solaris Phase Two on Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:12 am

Whats your guys take on some of the guys taking in the 2nd round
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Re: Young Players Who Have the Most Potential

Postby Andrew on Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:07 am

I wouldn't call Wall's rookie season bad as I think that's a shade too harsh. His shooting and turnovers are probably the most troubling elements of his game with ordinary percentages and a decent number of turnovers per game, but I think his jumpshot will develop and the turnover numbers aren't that unreasonable for someone handling the ball a lot. His numbers were OK across the board, he showed promise and he's got the tools to go further. It wasn't a stellar rookie year, but I'd say at the very least it was above average.

Also missed this before:

Lamrock wrote:You're infatuated with the raw stats, but there's gotta be some red flags about a PF almost entirely reliant on athleticism who's already missed half of his career with a broken kneecap. Blake had an excellent rookie season, but it's pretty hard to make a case for him making it over Aldridge, Chandler or Zach Randolph given the Clippers' record and his only claim being 22-12 on adequate efficiency and with no noticeable impact as far as actually winning is concerned. You could say "oh, injuries", but those benefited the Clippers as DeAndre Jordan is better than Chris Kaman (mind blown yet?)


That wording is a little creative, given Griffin's only been in the NBA for two years and had the misfortune of sitting out what should have been his rookie season. He doesn't seem to be showing too many ill-effects from said injury either, so while I guess it's worth noting I'm not sure it's as much of a concern as it is for someone like Greg Oden. Griffin making the All-Star team wasn't completely unreasonable, I understand the argument against him and for other players but he was a standout player last season and like Wall he obviously has the tools.

Whether he can get those numbers more efficiently, on a winning team and be a franchise player is yet to be seen but it seems to me he's got a pretty decent shot at it. The talent is there.
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Re: Young Players Who Have the Most Potential

Postby NovU on Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:22 pm

Andrew wrote:I wouldn't call Wall's rookie season bad as I think that's a shade too harsh. His shooting and turnovers are probably the most troubling elements of his game with ordinary percentages and a decent number of turnovers per game, but I think his jumpshot will develop and the turnover numbers aren't that unreasonable for someone handling the ball a lot. His numbers were OK across the board, he showed promise and he's got the tools to go further. It wasn't a stellar rookie year, but I'd say at the very least it was above average.

True that.

To compare him to 2 of most exciting point guards in the league today, Rose and Westbrook, Wall's rookie season sits somewhere in between. Westbrook had the worst rookie season out of these 3 but made a huge leap in following 2 years. Rose had the best and also made a huge leap in following 2 years. Perhaps it's possible for Wall to also make that kind of jump in his development.

They were all same age in their rookie years too.
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Re: Young Players Who Have the Most Potential

Postby rise on Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:38 pm

Dmastawwe wrote:Whats your guys take on some of the guys taking in the 2nd round

Marcus Thornton will continue to put up 20ppg. DeJuan Blair has potential unless his ACL-less knees act up. I hope Landry Fields can return to his old form (1st half of the season), he's got potential as a stater on a good team. Wesley Matthews was undrafted and he's already shown off his talent and he might continue to improve (not sure how much). I'm interested by Josh Selby and I want to figure out how on earth he dropped to the Grizzlies at #48.
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Re: Young Players Who Have the Most Potential

Postby Fresh8 on Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:02 pm

Can I please nominate Yi Jianlian. How old is he again? Like 19...?
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Re: Young Players Who Have the Most Potential

Postby Axel The Great on Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:10 pm

Patrick Patterson ftw bitches. Absolute steal in last year's draft. (Y)
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Re: Young Players Who Have the Most Potential

Postby benji on Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:26 pm

Sit wrote:Can I please nominate Yi Jianlian. How old is he again? Like 19...?

19, 27, same thing.
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Re: Young Players Who Have the Most Potential

Postby Alpha_ on Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:46 pm

Gerald Henderson, DJ Augustin, Rodrigue Beaubois, Greg Monroe, Kyle Lowry, Chase Budinger, Patrick Patterson, Roy Hibbert, Al-Farouq Aminu, Eric Bledsoe, Chris Douglas-Roberts, Wesley Johnson, Landry Fields, Ryan Anderson, Jrue Holiday, Thaddeus Young, Jodie Meeks, Marreese Speights, Wesley Matthews, Nicholas Batum, DeMarcus Cousins, Marcus Thornton, Gary Neal, DeJuan Blair, Jerryd Bayless, DeMar DeRozan, Ed Davis, Derrick Favors, and JaVale McGee.
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Re: Young Players Who Have the Most Potential

Postby Broseph Stalin on Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:32 pm

Westbrook and Love look to be truly something special. Westbrook's speed and court vision is ever improving and looked great in the playoffs. Love is showing Hall of fame caliber moments in games last season. Including a 30 rebound 30 point game; The first since 1982! All Along with a double double streak of 53 games! I expect him to solidify himself as a REAL force teams should be concerned of.
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Re: Young Players Who Have the Most Potential

Postby rise on Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:37 am

If a 20/15 average doesn't make you a true force in the NBA I don't know what will. I don't see him producing anymore than he did last season though
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