Bron will get Rookie of the Year

[Jackal]

:( but that's the exact same things I said, stupid Sean Deveney being more convincing than me............



Ths face will hunt me for life.........

In case some people didnt get it, I was being sarcastic.

James deserves the award & the panel of judges agree.

[magius]

Also, back on that 20/5/5 thing. I found some guys who didn't achieve all of the stats but who's rookie years I'd take over LeBron's.
Bird: 21.3ppg 10.4rpg 4.5apg (4.5 is close enough and Bird averaged over 6 apg for his career)
Kareem: 28.8ppg 14.5rpg 4.1apg (10 more points, 10 more rebounds, 1 less assist...good enough for me)
Baylor: 24.9ppg 15.0rpg 4.1apg
Erving: 27.3ppg 15.7rpg 4.0apg
Magic: 18.0ppg 7.7rpg 7.3apg
Earl The Pearl: 24.3ppg 5.7rpg 4.3apg
hell...even Iverson: 23.5ppg 4.1rpg 7.5apg

i didnt mean to say bron had a better rookie campaign then any of those guys, hill, or jordan, but those were the closest rookie numbers i could come up with to compare him to. and a rookie season out of high school comparable to a hill or any of the above is more impressive to me than one comparable to glenn robinson. and hey to even come close to 20 5 and 5 in a rookie campaign shows signs of greatness (as seen from the above), but of course the future doesnt matter when deciding rookie of they year and even so i still pick bron.... i'd just be repeating myself if i restated why

lebron : 20.9ppg 5.5rpg 5.9apg
melo : 21.0ppg 6.1rpg 2.8apg

-0.1ppgs, -0.6rpgs, +3.1apgs. good enough for me

[fgrep15]

:( but that's the exact same things I said, stupid Sean Deveney being more convincing than me............



Ths face will hunt me for life.........

In case some people didnt get it, I was being sarcastic.

James deserves the award & the panel of judges agree.

Note the wink after, the guy explained nothing really he just said Melo shot better . He could have at least had a better argument, but I said they both deserved it equally and Lebron didn't kill Melo in stats like some people still think.

lebron : 20.9ppg 5.5rpg 5.9apg
melo : 21.0ppg 6.1rpg 2.8apg

-0.1ppgs, -0.6rpgs, +3.1apgs. good enough for me

Wow that's got to be the most limited case of why you picked one or the other when their are other stats than points, rebounds and dimes.
Ah well, s'all good

[magius]

well like i said i already argued from my point of view i dont want to type it aaaaall again call me lazy

[Jackal]

I think those +3.1 apg compensate for the other stats, because those assists help out other team-mates get their points.

[sliccat]

I'm tired of the "Carmelo made the playoffs" argument. If this was an MVP race, then Carmelo would win hands down, because it's an award partially based on team success. The ROY, on the other hand, is an award purely based on the individual.

[fgrep15]

I'm tired of the "Carmelo made the playoffs" argument. If this was an MVP race, then Carmelo would win hands down, because it's an award partially based on team success. The ROY, on the other hand, is an award purely based on the individual.

WOW that's great, you really broke it down there.

well like i said i already argued from my point of view i dont want to type it aaaaall again call me lazy

I know, I was just playing with you

[air gordon]

'Melo fans aren't so mellow
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2004/columns/story?columnist=stein_marc&id=1786046

[fgrep15]

Yea I read that yesterday, its a good article, he basically said that exceeding the hype was one of the main reasons he got the edge.

What I don't get it this:

Besides, I wouldn't be surprised if LeBron says something at his press conference about how he'd gladly hand the trophy over to Anthony if it meant the Cavs could be playing a playoff game Tuesday night.

What player in their right mind wouldn't say or feel that way. Even if they didn't feel that way do you think they'd say it.
"No way man who cares about the playoffs and winning, I want my trophy"
Don't think so.

The little talk with Lebron confirmed what I've been saying, he's not a PG, or even a SG, his best position is the 3 and if the Cavs can get him playing there it would be great.
I also like that Lebron said he wants to be one of the league's best defenders, he needs to put a lot of work though, watching these guys (Rookies) next year will be good.

I think those +3.1 apg compensate for the other stats, because those assists help out other team-mates get their points.

So does the higher FG, FT and less turnovers .

[Jackal]

Not for me, I think helping the ones around you is better compared to higher FG% for your own stats.

[fgrep15]

Media was wrong to pick James over Anthony

First, let's take a look at the tangibles.

Anthony shot better from the field -- both overall (.426 to .417) and from 3-point range (.322 to .290) -- and foul line (.777 to .754), and also averaged more points (21.0 to 20.9) and rebounds (6.1 to 5.5) than James. True, James handed out more assists (5.9 to 2.8), but you'd figure that would be the case for a guy who played point guard much of the season. James also averaged more turnovers than Anthony.

On paper, it's a no-brainer: Anthony had a better individual rookie season. But it seems obvious that many sportswriters gave the nod to James because he apparently lived up to the hype; hype created by these very same sportswriters.

Houston's Maurice Taylor put it best of all.

"(James) won Rookie of the Year because he has a nice shoe and he does some nice dunks," Taylor said. "If you know basketball, you go by the best rookie season. Carmelo Anthony averaged more points and more rebounds, more wins, shot a better percentage from the floor. What else is there? But like I say, (James) has a better-looking shoe."

"Just unfair," said Minnesota's Sam Cassell about James winning the award

Media members were asked to give first-, second-, and third-place votes on this award. I gave a first-place vote to Anthony, a second-place vote to Miami's Dwyane Wade and a third-place vote to James.

Which of the three would I rather have? James. But the bottom line is that winning should count for something -- even in individual awards -- and Anthony and Wade helped get their teams to the postseason. Teams that, by the way, don't have much, if anything, on the Cavaliers.

[EGarrett]

He did pretty much the same thing you did...listed the stats where Anthony led then tried to make special exceptions for the areas where James was ahead.

That doesn't work...