Kings staying in Sacramento for at least one more year

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And Las Vegas is not in New Mexico.

check your map.

Check your map, puttin. Nevada and New Mexico are two different state.
Just for you, puttin.

EDIT: Holy shit, there actually is a town called Las Vegas in New Mexico.

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[benji]

No NBA team will move to any Las Vegas.

Some Lakers and Some Clippers fans will switch to Royals/Kings fans. Otherwise there is no point in moving there.

I'd like to see your route of causation, especially since you're saying that Clippers fans who have Blake Griffin and a potentially bright future will reject it for the hellscape that would be the Royals. And how you determined that all people are either Clippers or Lakers fans.

And the reason to move there is because of who will pay the bills for the Maloofs in Anaheim.

[puttincomputers]

You are reading things into my argument that I never stated!

I never said that ALL basketball fans in LA are Laker or Clipper fans.
I said SOME fans will switch.

What I have said is that there is no room for 3 teams in the area. Granted it is one of the richest areas in the nation.. for now. (think overdue big earthquake disaster possibility)

Can you tell me why the Dodgers and Giants moved from new york? Money and lack of Fans! (The Mets were not around yet!)

[benji]

I said SOME fans will switch.

Again, why. You said it would destroy the Clippers somehow.

Can you tell me why the Dodgers and Giants moved from new york? Money and lack of Fans! (The Mets were not around yet!)

I'd say the invention of air travel, population expansions in the West, owner desires and government/league meddling had more to do with it. Lack of fans was not an issue for those teams, nor is it an issue for the Kings.

Same reason the Lakers moved and every other sports league expanded outside the original Northeast corridor-Midwest locations they started in begininning in the late 1950s. New markets to exploit.

I'd say almost no franchise move has had to do with lack of fans.

[shadowgrin]

I know benji already made it clear to you puttin, but I'll still reply because you're one of the few here who are open for discourse despite your 'wacky' (now there's an understatement) opinions or viewpoint.

And you're doing a baseless assumption to make a prediction of the future.

how so?

Some Lakers and Some Clippers fans will switch to Royals/Kings fans. Otherwise there is no point in moving there.

I said SOME fans will switch.

What I have said is that there is no room for 3 teams in the area. Granted it is one of the richest areas in the nation.. for now.

So? What made you assume that will be enough to cause the death of the Clippers?
And no, that natural disaster as basis for your assumption is stretching it a bit.

[puttincomputers]

I wasn't using the natural disaster possibility as a basis for my argument. Especially since any location in the world can be destroyed by a natural disaster.

btw one of the reasons the giants moved was because they could not get enough fans to come to the stadium, despite being an above average team!

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-hist ... ts-to-move

[shadowgrin]

I wasn't using the natural disaster possibility as a basis for my argument. Especially since any location in the world can be destroyed by a natural disaster.

Then what is your basis?

[benji]

Lack of attendance != lack of fans.

[koberulz]

What other metric could one use to determine number of fans in any way that actually means anything to the team in question?

[shadowgrin]

Merchandise sales?

[benji]

Considering that non-club/box ticket sales are a pretty small amount of income for teams (thus why the Kings don't make money despite the sell outs) I don't think it'd be a very good barometer.

Ratings would be far more important (it's part of why the Lakers are trying to block the move), along with merchandise sales, yes.

In the case of the Giants the stadium was terrible so nobody attended the games, same thing happened to Kemper, the Omni and the prior MSG. Moving west wasn't because of lack of fans in NY metro, it was because they could get a new market free of any competition with a new stadium paid for by the taxpayers. Anaheim lacks the former, and the team would clearly be third in the market in fan base since it'll lose swaths of the Northern California fan base it has now.

I mean if somebody has an example of a team breaking into a market and displacing another team in the same league, I'd love to hear it. The Clippers and Nets never did it certainly.

Now, watch this drive.

[puttincomputers]

Considering how the Lakers flopped this year and considering how phil jackson is gone the Lakers may be the ones moving eventually. Winnipeg Lakers anyone? jk

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I'm ignoring this guy.