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Will Malone retire after this season?

Postby Jackal on Sat Mar 27, 2004 7:50 am

Retirement on Malone's radar.

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Retirement Option on Malone's Radar

Karl Malone is weighing retirement from pro basketball after this season, and right now the scale is tilted that way.

The prospects of pursuing or defending a championship, the possibility of becoming the league's all-time leading scorer and another season of making a seven-figure salary aren't enough to counterbalance the emotions and shifting priorities caused by the death of his mother last summer.

Yes, the games give Malone, 40, a break from the grief. But there are still those lonely moments on the freeway to and from Staples Center when he has only his thoughts.

"I ain't going to lie, I have days that I tear up a lot," Malone said. "I don't feel like I've been shortchanged, but I feel like [there are] certain things I can control now and … I'm not going to let days slip by [with] me wanting to do something that I'm not doing because of chasing the record or chasing something else."

There have been times during this turbulent season — when he occupied a spot on the injured list for the first time in his career — that he thought about walking away on the spot, without playing another game.

He didn't want to let down his teammates though. And his wife, Kay, wouldn't allow it.

So he returned March 12, having sat out 39 games, and gave the Lakers some much-needed defense and another scoring threat. His performances, though, are less joyous than dutiful.

"Since I lost my mom, it takes effort to work," Malone said. "My wife really helped me out, just a couple of days ago. She said, 'You know what, Karl Malone? I don't want to hear about it. Just go out and do what you do.'

"I work so hard, because my mind [isn't] here all the time. I can't explain it to people unless you were as close as I was to my mom. It'll never be the same."

Even his time in the weight room, the refuge where he built that famous physique of which he is so proud, isn't enjoyable anymore.

"It's a chore mentally," Malone said.

He'd rather be with his wife and four young children, who range in age from 5 to 12. They'd prefer if he pursued his basketball goals, which is why they signed off on his move from the Utah Jazz to the Lakers in the first place.

"My wife keeps reminding me that all of them made a sacrifice to be here, and you're not a quitter," Malone said. "So I'll suck it up. But at the end of the season, all of us will sit down with collective heads and say, OK, what do you want to do? But I just haven't recovered from my mom. Sometimes it's best to move on and do other things. We'll see at the end of the season."

Shirley Jackson Malone was 64 when she died of a heart attack in August while at Malone's ranch in Arkansas. Karl was in New York with the U.S. team, preparing for an Olympic qualifying tournament. He left for the funeral and didn't return to the team, then launched into a month's worth of workouts-as-therapy and was ready for the Lakers' first day of training camp.

At times, such as when Shaquille O'Neal and Kobe Bryant lobbed verbal grenades at each other before the season started, the perspective Malone gained from his mother's loss allowed him to put the daily dramas of Lakerland in their proper place. It also made him wonder whether his time wouldn't be better spent elsewhere.

A championship ring probably would make his decision much easier. It was the only thing missing from his 18-year stay in Utah, the reason he joined the star-studded Lakers. But if the Lakers fall short, the jewelry alone might not be enough to bring him back.

Nor would the prospect of surpassing Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's record of 38,387 points. The record is tantalizingly close, physically embodied by Abdul-Jabbar himself, who has sat along the baseline at Laker home games recently for his new job as New York Knick scout. Malone is at 36,798, with 1,589 points to tie. Because he sat out so much time this season it would take him 116 games at his current scoring average of 13.7 points — 11.4 below his career average — to get the record, which would take him past next season and into 2005-06.

"Maybe sometimes I don't know if things are meant to be broken," Malone said. "I'm not going to stay around for that.

"I've just got a different thing. I'm thinking, before I lost my mom, if I did break the record, she was going to be here. If we won a championship, she was going to be here. My first game as a Laker, she was going to be here. All of that turned upside down. And a lot of other things don't matter like they used to matter."

He'd rather chase his kids around the house or watch them on baseball and softball diamonds. He wants to spend time with older daughter Cheryl Ford, the WNBA player with whom he has recently forged a closer relationship, after having been absent for most of her 22 years.

That's not to say that he doesn't enjoy his time with the Lakers. He said that, despite all the turmoil, he would sign to come here again, even knowing everything he knows now.

"It's a joy coming to work every day, because these guys keep me going," Malone said. "But I have that little period of time in there, the ride up here, the ride back. But when I get home I'm fine, because that's where I want to be.

"I want my teammates to know that it'll be a personal decision, not a professional one," Malone said. "It'll be a personal one that I have to deal with myself. And my teammates have been tremendous, and I want to respect them. Because if I didn't respect them, it wouldn't be hard to [retire] now. It really wouldn't. But I respect them so much that I couldn't do that to them."

What if they ask him to come back next year? After all, they suffered 17 of their 23 losses while he was injured and their defense against the pick-and-roll improved noticeably when he returned.

"I think what they have to do, as much as I respect them, they have to respect me," Malone said.

"But it'll be a personal decision, really. It'll be, mentally, if I have the same drive that I've had. And right now, I work at it all the time. Man, I lost my matriarch. That'll never be replaced."

Viewed in that light, the Lakers' task of finding a way to replace Malone next season doesn't seem very difficult — even if it's looking more necessary.



Point Men

Karl Malone — the only active player in the top 10 of the NBA's career scoring list — needs 1,589 points to tie Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's record of 38,387 points. A look at the top 10 all-time scorers in the NBA with their number of seasons and teams played for and career averages:



Player Sea. NBA Teams Points Avg.


Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 20 Milwaukee, Lakers 38,387 24.6


Karl Malone 19 Utah, Lakers 36,798 25.1


Michael Jordan 15 Chicago, Washington 32,292 30.1


Wilt Chamberlain 14 Phila.-S.F. Warriors, Phila. 76ers, Lakers 31,419 30.1


Moses Malone 19 Buff.-Hou., Phila., Wash., Atl., Milw., San Antonio 27,409 20.6


Elvin Hayes 16 San Diego-Houston, Baltimore-Washington 27,313 21.0


Hakeem Olajuwon 18 Houston, Toronto 26,946 21.8


Oscar Robertson 14 Cincinnati, Milwaukee 26,710 25.7


Dominique Wilkins 15 Atlanta, Clippers, Boston, San Antonio, Orlando 26,668 24.8


John Havlicek 16 Boston 26,395 20.8
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Postby Matthew on Sat Mar 27, 2004 8:27 am

I hope he returns, becuase it is Karl Malone here. The best power forward of all time imo. But if he doesn't, he's given nba fans a great great run. One that should be :applaud: :proud:
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Postby Andrew on Sat Mar 27, 2004 1:03 pm

If he's talking about retirement now, I'm inclined to believe this season will probably be his last. You may recall last year Michael Jordan, David Robinson and John Stockton all mentioning at one point or another that they would be done at the end of the season. MJ and Stock in particular used to dodge the question and always hint at playing one more year when the subject was brought up in years past. Last year they were much more firm with their answers, suggesting a return this season was unlikely.

That's why at the moment I'm inclined to believe the Mailman is feeling the same way right now, and will likely call it quits at the end of the year. I could very well be wrong. But usually when a player starts talking like this, they're not planning to stick around for too much longer.
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Postby Jackal on Sat Mar 27, 2004 1:10 pm

Andrew wrote:That's why at the moment I'm inclined to believe the Mailman is feeling the same way right now, and will likely call it quits at the end of the year. I could very well be wrong. But usually when a player starts talking like this, they're not planning to stick around for too much longer.


Good, now that you've predicted that Malone will probably retire...I'm pretty sure Malone will not retire.

We're aware of how you're predictions turn out Andrew. :P
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Postby Andrew on Sat Mar 27, 2004 1:22 pm

Hey, I was half-right when I said Yao and Amare would be co-Rookies of the Year. :wink:
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Postby PRoPuLsiOnDJ on Sat Mar 27, 2004 4:43 pm

i dont think malone will retire.
he is in great physical shape but that's not going to be the factor for his decision. it's about how he's handling the death of his mother (from the article).
but after a long talk with his family ... he will probably play again next year.
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Postby Null17 on Sat Mar 27, 2004 7:58 pm

my guess is that he will retire if the lakers win the championship
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Postby Fresh8 on Sat Mar 27, 2004 10:41 pm

Poor Malone...it's not easy to handle the death of a close person (i.e. your parents, etc.) - everyone should understand that...

I think long as the Lakers and his family support him and he wins a ring and says its for his mom- he'll be ok! And whover stands in their way - (Sacramento, Minnesota...) Shaq's gonna go up to the doorsteps of Tim D, KG and Vlade Divac with an axe!
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Postby Drex on Sun Mar 28, 2004 1:14 am

my guess is that he will retire if the lakers win the championship

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Postby lilcheeks on Mon Mar 29, 2004 4:24 pm

i dont think malone will want to retire without a ring but he is getting old and hes never even one that ring. jud buechler has a championship ring i mean Cmon give me a break BUECHLER has one. he might be in doubt about his capability to handle one more year. its just sad to see a great powerfoward watch a benchwarming nobody have more rings than the olympic flag.

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Postby Andrew on Mon Mar 29, 2004 7:49 pm

Still, no one is going to mistake Jud Buechler as being a better player than Karl Malone, just as they wouldn't rank Buechler above Ewing, Barkley or Nique just because they didn't win any rings.
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Postby PRoPuLsiOnDJ on Tue Mar 30, 2004 1:56 am

didn't will purdue win like 4 championships also?
i remember that guy cant even make a wide open layup.
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Postby Ben-le-ouf on Tue Mar 30, 2004 3:23 am

Null17 posted
"my guess is that he will retire if the lakers win the championship"

On the contrary, I think he will retire if the Lakers don't win the title.
Cause if Shaq Kobe Payton and Malone don't win the title this year, then there can be no more else thing to make him win a ring.
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Postby Micchy_boy on Tue Mar 30, 2004 3:42 am

Null17 wrote:my guess is that he will retire if the lakers win the championship


i think if lakers win the championship, maybe this will help malone to decide not to retire. winning championship is like an addiction. you will want to taste it again. thats will make him to stay one year for lakers or two if he still wants to beat adbul-jabbar for the most point scored.

or maybe just maybe hehehe if lakers win. malone will decide to play one last year. he will opt out of lakers go back to utah like a prodigal son to play his final season as a jazz players and maybe he can break the record of kareem as a jazz in one season coz we will be 1st or 2nd option in scoring in utah.

malone deserve a ring and a scoring title. we prove it to all of us and will be the greatest power forward play in NBa.
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Postby lilcheeks on Tue Mar 30, 2004 10:37 am

i didnt mean that somebody would mistake buechler for being better than malone. i meant that buechler doesnt even really deserve them and malone does. hes very talented and almost did win that ring. But thats the key word there ALMOST. almost doesnt count. i think if the lakers do win the title this year that he will most likely retire because he will finally get his ring.
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Postby Andrew on Tue Mar 30, 2004 8:18 pm

Oh, I know you weren't suggesting that. My point is that role players on great teams usually wind up with a couple of rings while there are great players who either retire without ever winning a championship, or only winning one or two. You can't really compare a benchwarmer on a championship team to one of the NBA greats, so the number of rings doesn't really matter.

Off-topic for a moment, I wouldn't say that Buechler didn't deserve to win those titles. He was a seldom used reserve on a great team, but he still contributed here and there and was part of the team. He can't take as much responsibility for those titles as MJ, Pip and Rodman, but he was part of the team and did make a couple of big shots in the Finals series in 97 and 98. While he wasn't the most valuable player on the roster, he still deserves the rings.

That's not to say guys like Malone don't deserve to win a championship, but championship or no championship, they'll be remembered. A benchwarmer like Buechler who has won more rings will be easily forgotten.

That's the point I was trying to make. :wink:
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Postby air gordon on Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:55 am

haha don't try to drag jud buechler's name in the mud. he was the best volleyball player ever to grace the basketball court and possibly had the hairiest chest... he was the master of coming in at the end of quarters cold and hitting an outside shot

dennis hopson on the other hand...

will 'vanderbuilt' purdue used to wince after dunking balls lol.

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