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Re: Xbox One Revealed

Postby Sauru on Sat May 25, 2013 7:41 am

Pdub wrote:Yeah, I don't think anybody knows what that patent is even for. If it is really for limiting licensed viewing then Microsoft is going to receive some backlash.

One can only hope that these things are being blown out of proportion, and that once the console is released, the experience isn't as bad as people presumed.



i will be surprised if they dont change up a few things before launching after this. E3 will be very telling i think for them
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Re: Xbox One Revealed

Postby Oznogrd on Sat May 25, 2013 10:47 am

Pdub wrote:Yeah, I don't think anybody knows what that patent is even for. If it is really for limiting licensed viewing then Microsoft is going to receive some backlash.

One can only hope that these things are being blown out of proportion, and that once the console is released, the experience isn't as bad as people presumed.


I read one theory that Microsoft is doing this on purpose so when they "compromise on it" people will praise them for listening to their fans while if they had announced the "compromise from the start" we'd all be pissed.
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Re: Xbox One Revealed

Postby Andrew on Sat May 25, 2013 12:20 pm

Oznogrd wrote:I read one theory that Microsoft is doing this on purpose so when they "compromise on it" people will praise them for listening to their fans while if they had announced the "compromise from the start" we'd all be pissed.


Interesting, the supposed "New Coke" strategy. It might be giving them too much credit, though.
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Re: Xbox One Revealed

Postby NovU on Sat May 25, 2013 9:27 pm

Pdub wrote:Yeah, I don't think anybody knows what that patent is even for.

qballer's quotes weren't too clear with that. If then, I don't see anything wrong with it as long as this isn't the way Xbox One is headed to. Companies apply for patent for pretty much anything in today's world anyways.
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Re: Xbox One Revealed

Postby chicagoRAW on Sun May 26, 2013 1:46 am

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Re: Xbox One Revealed

Postby [Q] on Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:45 am

XBox Live Games won't be available on Xbox One
you have to play em on your 360.
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Re: Xbox One Revealed

Postby Andrew on Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:44 am

I wasn't planning on getting rid of my 360 anyway, but Microsoft is just alienating gamers at every turn.
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Re: Xbox One Revealed

Postby chicagoRAW on Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:14 pm

Anyone see the preorder prices for the ps4 games? They're priced at $99.99.... what to make of this?
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Re: Xbox One Revealed

Postby shadowgrin on Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:25 pm

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Re: Xbox One Revealed

Postby Sauru on Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:07 pm

yeah just place holder. these sites also have the ps4 listed for like 700 and the x box one for almost a grand
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Re: Xbox One Revealed

Postby Patr1ck on Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:54 pm

I read that games might be $10 more expensive, and that the consoles will retail for $400. I wonder what the manufacturing costs are per unit.
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Re: Xbox One Revealed

Postby Sauru on Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:22 pm

Pdub wrote:I read that games might be $10 more expensive, and that the consoles will retail for $400. I wonder what the manufacturing costs are per unit.



i have no problem paying extra for the bigger AAA games as long as they dont hold back content for DLC
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Re: Xbox One Revealed

Postby chicagoRAW on Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:37 am

Seems like Xbox One is weaker than PS4.

Xbox One - 1.2 Teraflops, DDR3 Ram
http://gizmodo.com/5977907/report-xbox- ... s-of-power

PS4 - 1.8 Teraflops, DDR5 Ram
http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/20/ps4-has ... rformance/

PS4 Will Have Faster Internals than Xbox One

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Re: Xbox One Revealed

Postby JaoSming on Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:44 am

Also, Patcher is saying the Xbone will sell for $400 and the PS4 for $350
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2 ... one-USD399
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Re: Xbox One Revealed

Postby Patr1ck on Tue Jun 04, 2013 5:34 am

That's Gddr5 ram for the ps4 which is a variant of DDR3 ram used in graphics cards. Higher memory bandwidth but higher latency. Also, the XOne has 32 mb of sRAM, whatever that is going to mean. 5gb of ram will be available for the XOne games, 7 gb for the PS4 games.
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Re: Xbox One Revealed

Postby chicagoRAW on Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:56 am

Furthermore, the additional 32 GB SRAM on the Xbox One may not do much for Microsoft’s next-generation console in providing extra processing speed and power, according to PC-Tablet.
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Re: Xbox One Revealed

Postby [Q] on Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:14 pm

JaoSming wrote:Also, Patcher is saying the Xbone will sell for $400 and the PS4 for $350
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2 ... one-USD399

i really hope this one is true
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Re: Xbox One Revealed

Postby benji on Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:34 pm

It was noted some time ago that the Xbone wasn't as powerful. 50% fewer shader units, the GPU can only max at 90%, etc.

Microsoft apparently designed the Xbone more around multitasking media center concepts. Then Sony dropped in an extra 4GB GDDR5 and was apparently more willing to pay for a less stripped down GPU. So it seems, on paper anyhow, that multiplats will reverse from last time around.

Microsoft still has way more money and more of a willing mentality to throw money at third party exclusives though.

Qballer wrote:XBox Live Games won't be available on Xbox One
you have to play em on your 360.

Andrew wrote:I wasn't planning on getting rid of my 360 anyway, but Microsoft is just alienating gamers at every turn.

Same thing with PS4. The architecture is too different, they'd have to rework every game or create some kind of emulator. Both companies have no interest in the latter after their last stab at it.

To maintain the architecture lands you in a WiiU situation where you run into all sorts of practical limits and come up short of seven year old technology with modernized components.

Sauru wrote:i have no problem paying extra for the bigger AAA games as long as they dont hold back content for DLC

i have no problem buying a next gen console as long as all the games are free
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Re: Xbox One Revealed

Postby Patr1ck on Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:55 pm

i have no problem buying a next gen console as long as all the games are free


And all the games come with the console on release day.
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Re: Xbox One Revealed

Postby JaoSming on Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:36 pm

benji wrote:Same thing with PS4. The architecture is too different, they'd have to rework every game or create some kind of emulator. Both companies have no interest in the latter after their last stab at it.

Gaikai was the "solution" for playing PS3 games on the new console. iirc, same with the PS2 and PS1 games.
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Re: Xbox One Revealed

Postby deihatein on Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:38 am

Sauru wrote:
Pdub wrote:I read that games might be $10 more expensive, and that the consoles will retail for $400. I wonder what the manufacturing costs are per unit.



i have no problem paying extra for the bigger AAA games as long as they dont hold back content for DLC


What if Capcom is releasing the games?
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Re: Xbox One Revealed

Postby shadowgrin on Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:17 am

benji wrote:
Sauru wrote:i have no problem paying extra for the bigger AAA games as long as they dont hold back content for DLC

i have no problem buying a next gen console as long as all the games are free

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Re: Xbox One Revealed

Postby Oznogrd on Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:30 am

I really don't mind DLC addons after the main story. What pisses me off is things like LA Noire when you get the DLC and its incorporated into the main storyline where you meet new characters during them. Or Tiger Woods where DLC courses are built into the season. Or "speed up" DLC. anything along those lines bother me.

When the DLC is worth it and affordable, I have no problem. When I picked up Borderlands 2 season pass for 10 bucks, thats the type of price and amount of content I'd like to see if DLC is a must.
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Re: Xbox One Revealed

Postby benji on Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:39 am

So...now sounds like there are yield problems with eSRAM so Microsoft is downclocking the GPU. In some cases "quite significant" performance decreases. (down to 800/900 glfops?)

MS was way behind with Xbone and apparently rushed things after PS4 was shown off.

MS not expected to release any tech specs (ala Nintendo) because it's likely compares unfavorably.

And they just cancelled a post-E3 media roundtable event.

Will sell a hundred million units.
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Re: Xbox One Revealed

Postby JaoSming on Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:24 am

benji wrote:And they just cancelled a post-E3 media roundtable event.

and a media Q & A as well, iirc from NeoGAF
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