The Clippers Draft

by **fgrep15** on Sat Jul 02, 2005 5:39 am

This was a pretty dissapointing and bad draft for the Clippers, it definately merits a failing grade. While Korolev has promise and can be a good player, passing up on Granger, Green, and Wright to take him is not really a smart move.

Korolev can be good, but how good can he be? Their were many higher ranked and better players, and Korolev could likely have been attained at #32 because no one else seemed interested in him.

Now, moving on to the #32 pick, this was also terrible. Ewing is a 6'3 PG/SG, who really doesn't have many PG skills to show, and IMO will not be in the league that long. The Clippers did the same thing last year drafting Lionel Chalmers, another PG/SG, and Keyon Dooling was a similar pick in the lottery a few years ago.

Overall this was a very poor draft, and the Clippers did not improve at all at least for now through the draft.

by **FanOfAll** on Sat Jul 02, 2005 6:17 am

I don't know about Korolev, but Ewing has zero PG skills. He's a wing player any you want to twist it. If the Clippers want to play him at the point, that will be a disaster.

@LAST.FM · by **iG®** on Sat Jul 02, 2005 6:29 am

They're overloaded with guards, I really don't know why did they draft two more. And I doubt that Korolev will be able to play on mid NBA level in two-three years more.

by **Indy** on Sat Jul 02, 2005 7:38 am

To be honest, if the Clips picked Granger at 12, I think Larry would have snatched Korolev at 17. So I THANK the Clippers for picking Korolev because... I do not see AK47 in this guy.

by **Blue Nugget** on Sat Jul 02, 2005 7:52 am

This guy sucks,but at leas they kept their promise. (Y)

by **BOSS** on Sat Jul 02, 2005 8:05 am

Korolev can play can play PG/SG/SF/PF.

Let's see what he can contribute this year to this franchise.

by **maes** on Sat Jul 02, 2005 8:08 am

I've read good things about Koralev, and this wasn't draft related.

He's certainly potential, while guys like Granger seem like the real deal...so i do agree that it was stunning that he dropped so low.

by **The X** on Sat Jul 02, 2005 11:06 am

yep....I think Clippers should have drafted either Danny Granger or Antoine Wright at 12....and then if they felt obliged to keep their promise, trade the #32 and something to pick him in the late teens or early twenties....

by **J@3** on Sat Jul 02, 2005 6:50 pm

Korolev would've been a great pick... next year, or the year after. He's played against no one of note, and averaged 4/4 in one of the weaker teams in Europe. If Andrei Kirilenko was German, I doubt Korolev would've gone in the first round.

by **AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy** on Sat Jul 02, 2005 11:04 pm

He's played against no one of note, and averaged 4/4 in one of the weaker teams in Europe.

CSKA Moscow one of the weakest teams in Europe...?!?!?!?!? :lol:

Hardly. Theoretically, they're the second best after Maccabi Tel Aviv... sespite finishing 4th in the Euroleague Final Four this spring.

And Korolev didn't play a single game with the men's squad, only the second/youth team, if I'm not mistaken...

by **J@3** on Sat Jul 02, 2005 11:09 pm

Sorry I meant one of the weaker LEAGUES, not teams.

by **AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy** on Sat Jul 02, 2005 11:14 pm

Sorry I meant one of the weaker LEAGUES, not teams.

Well, I agree that the Russian league is not one of the Top 4 in Europe, but in latter years it's gotten pretty strong. There has been a spending spree in Russian team sports the past 4 years or so, and basketball there has really been elevated a level or two.

But CSKA did not only dominate the Russian league finishing undefeated, the did pretty musc the same thing in the Euroleague group stages. They had like 1 defeat in 20 group games, before choking and losing both games at home in the Final four.

Portland's Sergei Monya , who is 22 years old, doesn't find much playing time there, and Viktor Khryapa didn't either last year. So it's understandable that Yaro didn't play at all thsi season.

by **The X** on Sun Jul 03, 2005 12:22 pm

not many players 22 and under play significant minutes in the big leagues in Europe, unless your name is Gelabale or Lorbek....

by **J@3** on Sun Jul 03, 2005 1:45 pm

http://www.euroleague.net/plantillas/jugador.jsp?id=JLY

Doesn't make for very good reading if you're a Clippers fan.

by **fgrep15** on Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:20 am

lol, definately not, I think he has good potential, but he's more of a pick for the future. I've thought a little about the Ewing pick and it might not be too bad.

Ewing is a SG/PG, so he's got fairly decent scoring ability. He can be used as a defensive guy off the bench to play alongside Livingston, so Livingston won't have to guard small, quicker players on defense. While Livingston is capable of doing it because of his length and quickness, their's no need for him to constantly be tiring himself against them. Ewing can play in rotations and guard opposing PG's, while Livingston guards SG's, and on offense, they switch.

by **AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy** on Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:28 am

Ewing is a SG/PG, so he's got fairly decent scoring ability. He can be used as a defensive guy off the bench to play alongside Livingston, so Livingston won't have to guard small, quicker players on defense. While Livingston is capable of doing it because of his length and quickness, their's no need for him to constantly be tiring himself against them. Ewing can play in rotations and guard opposing PG's, while Livingston guards SG's, and on offense, they switch.

wasn't that the plam when they drafted Lionel Chalmers last year? :?:

by **fgrep15** on Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:13 pm

Yea, but that kinda flopped cause Chalmers sucks...

by **air gordon** on Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:19 pm

not a big deal anyway, it's not like chalmers was picked high in lottery.. like dooling was

by **fgrep15** on Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:22 pm

Yea, Dooling was very dissapointing...

by **Impose** on Tue Jul 05, 2005 4:28 pm

you never know, a Kiralenko (couldnt be bothered spelling that right) clone would be a great fit around Brand and Maggette and Livingstone, it would give the clippers a different angle to other NBA teams with their shortest starter being Maggette at 6'6".....

Its a long shot, but the clippers are famous for their long shot tactics... one of these days eh?

by **Stevesanity** on Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:59 am

@ Dunleavy & EB

They even signed him, I hope Korolev can do something by next season or hes another Melvin Ely. We should have gone with Green if we wanted a project and Granger if we really wanted to go into the playoffs although I do get the feeling Danny Granger is extremely overrated by scouts.

Next time look around before making a new topic!
http://www.nbaliveforums.com/ftopic25592.php

Good to see someone cares abt the Clips though

by **AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy** on Wed Jul 06, 2005 1:37 am

Yea, but that kinda flopped cause Chalmers sucks...

not a big deal anyway, it's not like chalmers was picked high in lottery.. like dooling was

My point was, that the Clips used their second round pick in the 30-35 vicinity, the exact same way they used it last year. And IT DIDN'T WORK last year...

by **air gordon** on Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:07 pm

lol ok thanks for pointing that out (Y)

like i said no big deal... only 2 of last year's 2nd round picks made some kind of impact on their ballclubs anyway

by **AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy** on Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:15 pm

lol ok thanks for pointing that out

You're extremely welcome for recognizing my kindness... (Y)

like i said no big deal... only 2 of last year's 2nd round picks made some kind of impact on their ballclubs anyway

That's what they said about Michael Redd in his first year... :idea:

by **cklitsie** on Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:39 pm

air gordon wrote:like i said no big deal... only 2 of last year's 2nd round picks made some kind of impact on their ballclubs anyway

Ariza and... (just wondering).

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