Possible new Phoenix Sun

[twolvezfanfoever]

Q-Rich has signed a deal wit the Suns (if the Clip Show dont match in 15 days)
I dont think they really need him cuz they have Nash and Joe Johnson.But improvin never hurt.

another overpaid prospect
50 million
he's about 15 million in my opinion
he's pretty good
aint there yet though

and they overpaid for Nash too,65 for him? Please.Ill say about 25 million.He is proven.But he aint the best

[FanOfAll]

IIRC, it's 6 years/50 million, which I agree is a bit too much. But hey, they really want him for some reason - either they're trading away one of the 3 (JJ, Q, or Matrix), or they see a lot him and are just gathering talent. Don't forget they have Barbosa and Vujanic may come over (he can play a lot of 2 as well). I think the Clips will match because they'll realize Kobe is using them as leverage and it's a risk of either losing both of getting Q.

BTW, when you're saying you think Nash is worth 25 million and Q 15 million, how many years are you talking? Do keep in mind however, the Suns really want both players. I can understand Nash, I'm not sure sure about Q. They have to offer him considerably more than the original team otherwise the player won't sign. I forget how much Cuban was offering Nash, but in his blog, I think he said it was around 55 million (more or less)...and 65 mil was what really made Nash chose PHX.

[fgrep15]

Not even that it's too much, but it makes no sense, what do they want an expensive 6th man?

JJ and Marion play the 2 and 3, so unless a trade is going down this makes absolutely no sense.

PG: Nash / Barbosa / Eisley
SG: JJ / Q-Rich / Jacobsen
SF: Marion / Carbakapa / Jacobsen

What's the need for that?

[The Big Racist]

I see a starting 5 of
Voshkul
Amare
Matrix
Q
Nash
next season if they sign Q and then the season after next,they will trade the Matrix.

[fgrep15]

Why does everyone think Q is better than JJ? Q's defense is appauling, he's a very bad defender.

JJ is a better all-round player, defender by a large margin, and makes better decisions, the only things Q is better at are outside shooting, and rebounding.

[PRoPuLsiOnDJ]

Why does everyone think Q is better than JJ? Q's defense is appauling, he's a very bad defender.

JJ is a better all-round player, defender by a large margin, and makes better decisions, the only things Q is better at are outside shooting, and rebounding.

Q is pretty good in the low post too. I've seen him score so much posting up players.

[Micchy_boy]

instead of getting another guard in Q why not they get a decent center??? they will have nash and jj for backcourt and matrix and amare for forwards. get a big man plus a decent role player than overpay Q.

[fgrep15]

Why does everyone think Q is better than JJ? Q's defense is appauling, he's a very bad defender.

JJ is a better all-round player, defender by a large margin, and makes better decisions, the only things Q is better at are outside shooting, and rebounding.

Q is pretty good in the low post too. I've seen him score so much posting up players.

Yea I know, he's a post up guard, but JJ is capable of that too

[twolvezfanfoever]

I guess if they trade anybody,its gonna be JJ,unless he can start the 3,doubt it cuz of the matrix.I wanna be an owner so I can set things straight.Maybe they can trade JJ for a big man,which they really needed more than a backcourt

[Riot]

If Clippers match the offer, they are out of the Kobe sweepstakes.

What do you guys think they will do?

[twolvezfanfoever]

If they know they can get Kobe,Q Rich can head to the desert

[Riot]

They dont know, that's the thing. Take a risk on of the best players in the league or do you take Quentin Richardson and screw Kobe?

[twolvezfanfoever]

Dont forget,WE'RE TALKIN ABOUT THE CLIPPERS.THey're gonna do everythin that they can possibly do to get Kobe,I say its a small chance that they re sign Q Rich

[Riot]

It'd be a mistake to see Q leave Clippers and not get Kobe in return. Clippers have 15 days to think about this...I think they choose Q over the CHANCE they get kobe.

[twolvezfanfoever]

Riot,we bout to go at it for awhile.CLIPPERS,CLIPPERS,they never re sign people.It was a off year last year when they re signed brand and maggette.But they let go a very good Odom and Miller.Go for Kobe,if they cant get him,find another 2 guard.Plain and simple

[Riot]

Clippers know that they made bad moves in the past. Sterling is trying to prove he wants to win and is willing to open his pocket book. I expect the Clippers to meet with Kobe and if Kobe is showing some strong interest, forget Q. But I doubt that will happen. I see the Clippers taking Q and Kobe going back to the Lakers. Simple as that.

[twolvezfanfoever]

Why he all of a sudden try to actually win just because he signed Brand and Maggette.I hear news all the time about when they are disqualified from the playoffs every year and they talk about what he didnt do and how he just made money.He's gonna get Kobe and leave Q to Phoenix,unless Kobe says in the next few days that he's gonna stay wit the Lake Show

[Riot]

I don't see Kobe going to the Clippers and I think the Clippers know that. Its a long shot to get Kobe from LA and it maybe best to just go and resign Q and try to keep the core of guys together.

[Amphatoast]

wow, these next 15days will either make or break the clippers.
All the Clippers fans out there must be in a mode of panic.

[twolvezfanfoever]

Naw,there used to this

[FanOfAll]

Why does everyone think Q is better than JJ? Q's defense is appauling, he's a very bad defender.

JJ is a better all-round player, defender by a large margin, and makes better decisions, the only things Q is better at are outside shooting, and rebounding.

Q is pretty good in the low post too. I've seen him score so much posting up players.

Yea I know, he's a post up guard, but JJ is capable of that too

I agree here with fgrep. I think they're pretty even outside shooters, but JJ has by far, the better all-around game. Just not nearly a explosive and not the same post guard.

[Repole]

JJ rules, i said it when the celts drafted him, and i'll say it now, he's the shiznat. i'm so ghetto....

anyways back to my normal non ghetto person talking, Johnson is a future star, and already a solid starter in my eyes, and signing q rich for big money is just a bad investment. why not go after a center...

[Gripni]

Everyone is overpaying for everyone. No luxury tax this year.

The Clippers aren't matching the offer. JJ is definitely better than Q-Rich. But I really think the Suns are going to make a trade involving Marion. Q-Rich would play SF. The Suns can't get a decent center. Nobody can. There are seven good pure centers in the L: Shaquille O'Neal, Zydrunas Illgauskas, Erick Dampier, Yao Ming, Theo Ratliff, Vlade Divac, and Jamal Magloire. The only two who are going anywhere are Shaq and Divac. Shaq isn't going to any team that doesn't already have a lot of talent. Divac isn't going anywhere but to the golf course. There are only going to be seven teams with good centers next year, and Pheonix isn't one of them unless something wacky happens.

[air gordon]

overpaid? maybe. but should there be all this crying about it?

no.

these escalating salaries are a result of the domino effect. the contracts of nash and marquis daniels got the ball rolling. any smart agent will reference these 2 contracts & the ones consequently following them and use them for a bigger contract for their respective client

i.e: if daniels is getting the full MLE, no doubt a better player like richardson deserves a bigger contract.

what solid proof does anyone have stating there won't be a luxury tax this year?

[fgrep15]

wow, these next 15days will either make or break the clippers.
All the Clippers fans out there must be in a mode of panic.

Not at all, this is nothing new really.