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Postby J@3 on Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:07 am

And killed TD in the 4th :mrgreen:
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Postby Laxation on Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:37 am

Rip32 wrote:
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Rip32 wrote:Hey uh aldrin,

Go say hi to Andrew Bogut ok buddy?

homer...


wtf is this sposed to mean?


Andrew Bogut beat the Spurs at the buzzer yesterday...


yeh but this is like his only post where he doesnt talk about duncan...
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Postby Rip32 on Fri Dec 23, 2005 3:18 pm

Laxation wrote:
Rip32 wrote:
Laxation wrote:
Rip32 wrote:Hey uh aldrin,

Go say hi to Andrew Bogut ok buddy?

homer...


wtf is this sposed to mean?


Andrew Bogut beat the Spurs at the buzzer yesterday...


yeh but this is like his only post where he doesnt talk about duncan...


But hes Trashing Ben so fuck that. :?
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Postby Metsis on Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:32 pm

I'm telling you people that a super-star lineup does not work...

Like lineup of
Shaq
Duncan
T-Mac
Kobe
Iverson

Pretty much the best players out there at the moment... Then a bench of say:

Garnett
Marion
Brand
Allen
Redd
Arenas
James

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It just does not work... Too many scorers and shooters and only a single ball... I love to shoot the ball and it sometimes pains me when I don't get the ball as often as I would like... And all the super-stars are used to having the ball in their hands and score a lot of points. The US team needs 3-4 stars that do most of the scoring and a versatile bunch at that, I mean one inside guy, one slasher, one shooter and one who can do it all... Or replace the slasher with another "who can do it all" guy... So there is that versatility. Then you need to surround those 4 players with players that support these guys... Inside and outside defenders, great playmakers, good shooters (who can hit the open jumper)... So that would be a complete team... A team made of super-stars is never going to be all that happy together.

Each player needs to have a role and they have to be happy filling his role and not guys who think that their role is wrong and/or not enough... Scoring hasn't been the problem with the US teams, the team is always packed with great scorers, but the versatility has been very lacking... The last US team, a defense could swamp the middle and let them shoot the outside shots and you would have a good chance at winning the game.

It was just that simple... There were no guys that could shoot the ball in it...
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Postby Laxation on Fri Dec 23, 2005 7:09 pm

Rip32 wrote:
Laxation wrote:
Rip32 wrote:
Laxation wrote:
Rip32 wrote:Hey uh aldrin,

Go say hi to Andrew Bogut ok buddy?

homer...


wtf is this sposed to mean?


Andrew Bogut beat the Spurs at the buzzer yesterday...


yeh but this is like his only post where he doesnt talk about duncan...


But hes Trashing Ben so fuck that. :?


oh yeh....

Bogut for MVP!!! woot
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Postby air gordon on Sat Dec 24, 2005 4:19 pm

Metsis wrote:I'm telling you people that a super-star lineup does not work...

Like lineup of
Shaq
Duncan
T-Mac
Kobe
Iverson

Pretty much the best players out there at the moment... Then a bench of say:

Garnett
Marion
Brand
Allen
Redd
Arenas
James

-------------
It just does not work... Too many scorers and shooters and only a single ball... I love to shoot the ball and it sometimes pains me when I don't get the ball as often as I would like... And all the super-stars are used to having the ball in their hands and score a lot of points. The US team needs 3-4 stars that do most of the scoring and a versatile bunch at that, I mean one inside guy, one slasher, one shooter and one who can do it all... Or replace the slasher with another "who can do it all" guy... So there is that versatility. Then you need to surround those 4 players with players that support these guys... Inside and outside defenders, great playmakers, good shooters (who can hit the open jumper)... So that would be a complete team... A team made of super-stars is never going to be all that happy together.

Each player needs to have a role and they have to be happy filling his role and not guys who think that their role is wrong and/or not enough... Scoring hasn't been the problem with the US teams, the team is always packed with great scorers, but the versatility has been very lacking... The last US team, a defense could swamp the middle and let them shoot the outside shots and you would have a good chance at winning the game.

It was just that simple... There were no guys that could shoot the ball in it...

interesting take. who do you suggest should be on the team?

though i don't necessarily agree since top tier players like Garnett, Duncan, Billups, Marion aren't selfish despite their status

the only problem with getting pure shooters for the SG spot is that most of them are not good defenders

i think if we bring the best and the coach will play to their strengths, the US team will win it. though there could be trouble if the nba non travel is called a travel in the games ;)
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Postby Rip32 on Sat Dec 24, 2005 5:38 pm

For Shooters I grab JJ Redick, Kyle Korver and Damon Jones

For Scores id get like Kobe/T-mac and like Rip

For Perimeter Defense id Get Bruce Bowen and James Posey/Trent Hassel

For Inside Game id get Elton Brand and Shaq

For Playmakers id get Chauncey Billups or J-Kidd

For Inside Stopping id get Marcus Camby and Ben Wallace

And then id find a spot for Dwyane Wade.

Doesnt look like a bad team to me no egos, unless kobe and shaq are both there... :lol:
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Postby [Q] on Sat Dec 24, 2005 6:06 pm

Big BEn is too old.
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Postby Matt on Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:52 pm

he's only 30 and in the prime of his career.

I think Korver & D Jones would suck. Neither plays D and both are useless when not shooting. D Jones doesn't even create anything for teammates or shoot layups and/or 2pnters.

RIP would be good because he's in constant motion. Kobe doesn't need justifying. The rest are good picks too.

the only problem with getting pure shooters for the SG spot is that most of them are not good defenders


indeed, however the problem of the last team was that nobody put up a hand to contest a shot. If you put a hand in the shooters face you should be alright most times.
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Postby Laxation on Sun Dec 25, 2005 12:09 am

no way should korver be in that team

he is terrible, cant create his own shot, or anyone elses shot, cant play D, and misses way too many shots, and also looks retarded when he shoots

shaq will be too old, i rekon J'Oneal would be better for his spot

chris paul (maybe) for a playmaker? maybe next team...
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Postby Fenix on Sun Dec 25, 2005 12:13 am

Korver is a role player and every team (at least a good one) needs them. He's a superb shooter and if you bring him off the bench when needed, that won't hurt your D that much.
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Postby Laxation on Sun Dec 25, 2005 12:14 am

have you seen him play? its like watching a retard trying to fuck a doorknob when he shoots... (not every shot, but he sticks his legs out when he jumps...)
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Postby Fenix on Sun Dec 25, 2005 12:21 am

Laxation wrote:have you seen him play? its like watching a retard trying to fuck a doorknob when he shoots... (not every shot, but he sticks his legs out when he jumps...)

:shock:. Yes, I have seen him play and he's a great shooter who made some clutch shots in the past. Who gives a fuck whether he looks good doing it? Well, obviously you do.
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Postby Jing on Sun Dec 25, 2005 12:24 am

use him purely for defense and tell him to just act pretty on offense and wait for the many missed shots
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Postby Laxation on Sun Dec 25, 2005 12:42 am

VanK wrote:
Laxation wrote:have you seen him play? its like watching a retard trying to fuck a doorknob when he shoots... (not every shot, but he sticks his legs out when he jumps...)

:shock:. Yes, I have seen him play and he's a great shooter who made some clutch shots in the past. Who gives a fuck whether he looks good doing it? Well, obviously you do.


its not that he looks stupid, he looks stupid and doesnt make the shots

granted, ive only seen him play 5 or 6 games, but in ALL of them he missed countless open shots, and never got on fire.
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Postby Drex on Sun Dec 25, 2005 4:20 am

Try to see 5 or 6 games when he's on fire. It has happened Korver is one inconsistant motherfucker, but so are the whole Sixers. And yeah, he does look stupid sometimes, but a lot of players look stupid.
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Postby Riot on Sun Dec 25, 2005 4:30 am

Wally Szczerbiak wants to be on the Olympic team in 2008.
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Postby Fenix on Sun Dec 25, 2005 4:39 am

Riot wrote:Wally Szczerbiak wants to be on the Olympic team in 2008.

He would be a nice fit too. If he passes the beauty committee, that is.
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Postby Jowe on Sun Dec 25, 2005 12:28 pm

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Postby Fenix on Sun Dec 25, 2005 6:53 pm

Well, I don't know. Ask Laxation. If he digs it, then we'll have to live with it.
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Postby Laxation on Sun Dec 25, 2005 7:13 pm

oh shut up
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Postby Fenix on Sun Dec 25, 2005 7:27 pm

Why? Am I not pretty enough? Touch my hair. I dare you. Touch it.
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Postby Laxation on Sun Dec 25, 2005 8:02 pm

matthew berry thinks korver is dreamy looking, so what would his looks have anything to do with it anyway

im just saying he looks like a retard whens hes shooting badly
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Postby J@3 on Mon Dec 26, 2005 4:28 pm

Kobe's officially committed to the US team for the 2008 Olympics.
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Postby Rip32 on Mon Dec 26, 2005 4:51 pm

Jae wrote:Kobe's officially committed to the US team for the 2008 Olympics.


I guess that officially would count shaq out if he wasn't too old... :lol:
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