Jae™ wrote:How on Earth is Juwan Howard one of the worst 25 players in the league? If anything I'd put him in the top 25 PF's. The guy might be overpaid but how is that his fault? Someone gives him a massive contract, and that makes him a bad player? Have a look at his stats for the last 3 seasons...
14.6ppg 7.6rpg
18.4ppg 7.6rpg
17.0ppg 7.0rpg
And all the while he played 81, 77 and 81 games so it's not as if he's injury prone (anymore). I just don't think it's fair that his selection seems to have been purely based on the fact that he has an overinflated contract

Also, the 17ppg/7rpg he averaged on the horrible Magic team was in his
9th season or something like that. There's not too many players out there who can put up those numbers that far into their career, well not many players who have been maligned as much as Juwan.
I agree Howard isn't top 25 worst, but the #'s are very misleading. First of all, how many playoff teams has Howard been on? Secondly, he plays 0, zip, zilch, nil defense. Absolutely none. He gives about as much effort out there on defense and rebounding as I am typing. On offense, there's only one thing he can do well and sometimes that hurts the offense: shoot the 15 footer. Sometimes it hurts the offense because like Gooden, he would take bad shots. If that's a Magic fan taking out all his frustration at Howard but putting him on the list, I wouldn't be the least surprised.
Well, they had a chance to compete for more PT. Brown's been stuck behind more established players who aren't in danger of losing their starting job and 30+ minutes per game. But perhaps I did overrate him a little.
I'll give his rookie year, but 2 years ago, he had PP, Eric Williams, and Walter McCarty. Waltah isn't exactly all that established, besides hitting 3's, and even so, OB often played him at the 4, not the 3. So Brown got 13 mpg, scoring 2.8 ppg and grabbing 2.8 rpg. Last year, during his short stint on the C's, he improved his shot and scored 5.2 ppg and grabbed 3.2 rpg in 19 minutes. In CLE, his points stayed the same, minutes went down, and rebounds went down. However, look at his stat sheet. There's a reason he got so many DNP's. And no, it's not because he had Ira Newble and Eric Williams in front of him. Or Lee Nailon. Come on, this kid can dunk like not many can, his jump shot is a lot better, he plays good defense, but he's so lazy and absolutely clueless on offense. You give him the ball and he has no idea what to do -- he can't dribble, he can't create, he can't make an entry pass, he can't find a cutter, he can only make a simple, easy pass back outside. Unless he's in the summer leagues. Even there he was way overweight and out of shape, so much that the Cavs (who were pissed he was out of shape because they chose him over Kapono to protect) packaged him to the 76ers. Where OB, his ex-coach (and while lots of coaches and players don't get along, they're often excited to be reunited, as AI said "You don't know what something is worth to you until you lose it [referring to Larry Brown].") stated and I paraphrase, that Kedrick Brown was
merely to make the salaries work. That is hilarious. As a coach, when on Earth do you go out and say "Oh we didn't ask for that player. We needed him so the trade could work under the CBA." Everyone knows that's bad PR wise and bad for the player's morale. Brown was merely a workout wonder who shot up the draft and got everyone excited.
Hasilip had some chance of getting more play time. I'm starting to change my stance on him...the thing though is that he's really a 3, not a 4 like he was listed as when he was drafted. He's mostly a drive past you, jump out of the gym, type athletic freak. Past that, he doesn't have much game. Which is why, like Brown, I'm starting to feel he should be somewhere on that list as well. He's also had time to develop (I believe same season as Brown) and maybe I'm jumping the gun here, but he hasn't shown much besides what I listed earlier.