What seperates Jordan from the rest..

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Postby j.23 on Fri Jul 30, 2004 4:12 pm

i still say mj was better at 40. if anything i bet you mj could've had a higher scoring average if he started all 82 games (he came off the bench the first 15 games). you're forgetting the fact that mj had not played ball for 3 years and he came back and did pretty well at arguably one of the toughest positions to play. he held his own against the likes of paul pierce, carter, t-mac etc and that's pretty impressive.. im not saying karl malone is a bad player at all, but realistically if he retired and came back at the age of 38 or 39 do you think he could've done that well in his position? i certainly don't think so.
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Postby Bill Russell on Fri Jul 30, 2004 4:16 pm

I think both did a fine job... (Y)
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Postby tcrock on Fri Jul 30, 2004 6:12 pm

You guyz are correct I was watching some show and they did a study on jordans brain waves they said when einstein was at work it was so and so level but when jordan played ball it was well equal to if not greater than einstein's but they also said that he used all sides of his brain something that is highly unusual :P
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Postby Matt on Fri Jul 30, 2004 7:00 pm

heres what seperated Jordan from everyone else

skill, determination, work ethic, killer instinct, competitiveness, athleticism, good looks :lol:
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Postby The Game on Fri Jul 30, 2004 7:00 pm

JJ wrote:Well first of all i didnt say Kobe is stupid. I see you are a Kobe fan but truth is truth,even Kobe is as intelligent as MJ (He is not ), when it comes to leadership you can't find anyone better than MJ.

i dont remember saying that you said kobe is stupid... :roll:
And i ask for something please. Stop comparing MJ to anyone.

said the guy who made a long post comparing MJ and Kobe... :lol:
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Postby Rens on Fri Jul 30, 2004 7:03 pm

What seperates Jordan from the rest is that he comes closest to Wilt.
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Postby Matthew on Fri Jul 30, 2004 8:13 pm

Yeah mike's 6 rings come awfully close to wilts 2 :P
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Postby Homer on Fri Jul 30, 2004 8:29 pm

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Postby Matthew on Fri Jul 30, 2004 8:48 pm

As the guy above's

Call me Matthew (y)
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Postby The Game on Fri Jul 30, 2004 9:01 pm

i meant stop comparing him anymore. Ok Mr.Kobe fan ?

you posted this after making that huge post ... :roll:

Don't forget about charisma and leadership Even at age 18. he became the leader of a NBA franchise. Even MJ couldnt do that.But it doesnt mean he is the next MJ. But if there has to be a next MJ , he is the closest candidate


get my point mr. whatever?
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Postby Rens on Fri Jul 30, 2004 9:14 pm

JJ wrote:As the guy above's sig says Wilt is overrated. At his time he was the tallest and strongest guy. If he played on 90s he would mostly be hustle all-star center. He wouldnt even reach to Ewing's level.

Wait you mean Wilt wasn't the most athletic big man in the league who was not only extremely athletic (great at track&field) but also extremely strong and very fast and quick? He played sucky big men? Go look at the Hall of Fame and see what big men played in his era.

'He wouldn't reach to Ewing's level"
LOL
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Postby Matthew on Fri Jul 30, 2004 9:32 pm

I think, from what ive seen, David Robinson was more of an athlete than wilt. maybe not a better basketball player, but athletically, id say robinson was superior.
Go look at the Hall of Fame and see what big men played in his era.

There's such a simple reason for this... every year there are nominee's, and you cant be in the hall less than 4 or 5 years after your retirement.. so basically all the era's are there.
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Postby Andrew on Fri Jul 30, 2004 9:52 pm

VCFAN wrote:You guys are so ignorant to say that Michael Jordan is so great by his stats when he was 40. What about Karl Malone. His stats were just as good if not better than Michael Jordan at the same age. Look at his 2002/03 stats (the year he turned 40). Does this mean Karl Malone is a better player. No but please don't use his age on the Wizards as an arguement. Karl Malone was putting up stats comparable to the best players in the league in his late 30's.


Actually I was referring to all great players, not just Michael Jordan. I used Michael Jordan's stats as an example since he's the player we were discussing.

I don't see how this is ignorant, especially as I did not cite it as the only reason.
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Postby Homer on Fri Jul 30, 2004 10:56 pm

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Postby Rens on Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:03 pm

Wilt's game was mostly grace, not all power. Go watch videos and tell your own view instead of others' views.
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Postby Homer on Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:33 pm

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Postby Carlos Boozer on Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:40 pm

JJ wrote:
Dan Gadzuric wrote:Wilt's game was mostly grace, not all power. Go watch videos and tell your own view instead of others' views.

WTF are you talking about ? Who is telling others' views ? i wont discuss this Wilt (overrated (N) ) thing with you again. i respect your opinions but you are just being sarcastic and trying to flame here.

STFU,wilt isnt overrated..
I don´t respect your opinions man..
Lets get this straight,you are dumb.And i am not.. :)
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Postby Rens on Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:43 pm

JJ wrote:WTF are you talking about ? Who is telling others' views ? i wont discuss this Wilt (overrated (N) ) thing with you again. i respect your opinions but you are just being sarcastic and trying to flame here.

How am I being sarcastic? And I am NOT trying to flame, if I were you'd be burned by now.
Ok that last line was sarcastic.
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Postby Homer on Sat Jul 31, 2004 12:05 am

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Postby Rens on Sat Jul 31, 2004 12:45 am

You tell me, you're making false statements and you seem like an intelligent person, so I wondered as well.
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Postby Homer on Sat Jul 31, 2004 1:04 am

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Postby air gordon on Sat Jul 31, 2004 7:24 am

ahh it was inevitable wilt's name would be brought up. this makes the discussion almost go full circle.

thread starts off about bryant or jordan. then someone compares the 2. then someone mentions wilt. i'm still waiting for someone to bring up oscar roberston and/or bill russell...
Jump.
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Postby whlee75 on Sat Jul 31, 2004 9:13 pm

Dr3x_15 wrote:
But the main thing that separate MJ and the rest is his 6 rings...
and two 3-peats
If he hadn't won any championship I doubt he'd attract so much praise...

LOL :P Guess what? If Jordan didn't had those skills already mentioned he wouldn't got those rings.


Fisher doesn't have the skills Jordan has...
Nor does Devean Geroge...
Nor does Randy Brown...
yet they all have rings.

My point is, no rings, no talk. Simple as that.
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Postby Drex on Sun Aug 01, 2004 4:47 pm

Fisher doesn't have the skills Jordan has...
Nor does Devean Geroge...
Nor does Randy Brown...
yet they all have rings.

My point is, no rings, no talk. Simple as that.

Well, who talks about them? :roll: They all have rings...still no talk (well, excepting 0.4 :P )
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Postby magius on Sun Aug 01, 2004 6:22 pm

championship mvp = great player. period.
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