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Trouble for Shareef and Nets?

Postby MiAmI2005HeAt on Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:15 pm

ESPN Reports that Shareef Abdur-Rahim deal has hit a wall.After the Nets preformed
a physical on Abdur-Rahim.The physical revealed Knee trouble for Abdur Rahim.The Nets will make up their mind whether to sign him or not. :wall:
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Postby BOSS on Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:16 pm

Yo got a link to it.
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Postby MiAmI2005HeAt on Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:26 pm

it just happened it was on Espn News
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Postby EGarrett on Fri Aug 05, 2005 7:31 am

I heard the problem was with his elbow.
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Postby Kemp on Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:09 am

This will hurt the Nets alot if they did not sign Rahim. Is still 2 months away before the season begins, so Rahim probably can fully heal before the season starts. I still believe he will be a Net.
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Postby [L3]1101 on Fri Aug 05, 2005 3:31 pm

i hope the raptors sign him....
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Postby NNpF on Fri Aug 05, 2005 3:51 pm

[L3]1101 wrote:i hope the raptors sign him....


You hope the Raptors sign everybody... :wink:

They already have Chris Bosh at PF and that's the only position Shareef will play.

I still think the Nets will sign Shareef, this is to big of a signing for them to pass it up.
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Postby [L3]1101 on Fri Aug 05, 2005 4:23 pm

lol, yes.

I think the nets will sign him as well, at least for he price they are paying him, it's a great deal. But again, it's pretty difficult not to pass the physical, so it might be serious.
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Postby AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy on Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:19 pm

I think the obstacles will be overcome and Reef will go to NJ after all. He wants to, Kidd wants to, Thorn wants to... they'll get the doctors to concur somehow...
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Postby End Boss on Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:27 am

Abdur-Rahim fails physical, imperils deal wrote:LINK

When the test results came back, and optimism quickly turned to uncertainty, Rod Thorn was left to explain why the Nets biggest off-season acquisition was sitting at home 1,000 miles away instead of addressing the media about his new team yesterday.

Less than 48 hours after the Nets president completed a sign-and-trade deal with Portland to land Shareef Abdur-Rahim, the trade was put on hold after the veteran 6-9 forward didn't pass a routine physical exam. The Nets gave up a future first-round pick and a trade exception for Abdur-Rahim, who signed a six-year, $38 million contract Tuesday before undergoing a physical with team orthopedist Michael Kelly.

The Nets canceled a scheduled news conference to introduce Abdur-Rahim and fellow free-agent acquisition Jeff McInnis -- who passed his physical -- when concerns over Abdur-Rahim's knee surfaced. Abdur-Rahim, 28, underwent a "knee operation" in high school, according to Thorn, but hasn't had any recurring knee problems in his nine-year NBA career.

"I was just shocked by it," said Thorn of results of the physical. "It was something that we were certainly unaware of. He was evidently unaware of it also. He's been working out all summer. He's had no problems at all. So, I'm hopeful that it will work out."

Thorn said the team was "soliciting other opinions" to get more information on Abdur-Rahim's knee condition, but did not specify what team doctors were concerned about. He admitted the decision to finalize or nullify the trade "probably will play out over the next few days" and "the deal will either go through as it has already been done or it won't." The Nets have until August 12 to complete the trade. The team exception expires August 9.

"To our best knowledge, Shareef was healthy," Blazers' general manager John Nash said. "I don't know what caused them to seek another opinion. We made the trade with the belief that it was in our best interest. If it doesn't work out, it doesn't. And it's null and void."

Thorn notified Abdur-Rahim about the decision to hold off on the deal Wednesday afternoon, prompting the veteran to fly home to Atlanta to await further word. Abdur-Rahim, who missed 22 games with the Blazers last season after undergoing elbow surgery, wasn't surprised by the results of the physical. He said questions about his knee have surfaced after every physical he has taken.

"It's something that has shown up since I was drafted," said Abdur-Rahim, who has averaged 19.8 points and 8.1 rebounds in nine seasons with Vancouver, Atlanta and Portland. "Every place I've been has known about it and asked questions about it. I never had any knee injuries (in the NBA) or missed any games. It doesn't bother me.

"Whether it's my elbow or knee, none of these things have stopped my productivity. It's really not a big deal. But the Nets have a responsibility to make sure everything's okay. It comes down to them doing their due diligence. What the Nets comfort level is, I can't speak to that."

Abdur-Rahim said he wasn't scheduled to seek a second medical opinion on the knee, and will wait to hear from the Nets.

"At this point, I don't have any plans of seeing anyone else," said Abdur-Rahim, who averaged 16.8 points and 7.3 rebounds last season. "(The Nets) may speak to their doctors or put their heads together to just talk about what they're seeing. I think they just wanted to get more clarity to feel more comfortable.

"It's been kind of a roller coaster -- the negotiation process, trying to get Portland to do a sign and trade, and now this. It hasn't been a super smooth situation. But I feel good that everything will take care of itself and be okay."

The snafu with the Abdur-Rahim deal could affect how the Nets pay McInnis, who signed a one-year deal for $3.5 million plus a player option in 2006-07. If the Abdur-Rahim deal falls through, the Nets could decide to use the trade exception in a sign-and-trade with Cleveland for McInnis.

"Jeff definitely will be here," Thorn said. "It's a matter of how we end up signing him. We've used our trade exception as of right now. If we don't use our trade exception, maybe we'll use it in another way."

Thorn also admitted the team "started looking at other options" because of the uncertainty surrounding Abdur-Rahim.

"He was a big piece to our puzzle," Thorn said. "If we don't complete the trade, we've lost a quality player."

Veteran Dale Davis could be an option if the Abdur-Rahim deal falls through. Chubby Wells, the agent for the 14-year veteran, said Thorn had "exploratory" discussions with him last week, but felt the Nets wouldn't have enough money to sign Davis.

"Depending on what happens (with the Abdur-Rahim deal)," Wells said, "The Nets are definitely a team in the mix."
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Postby Goldenstatewarrior on Sat Aug 06, 2005 11:18 am

I still believe that he will sign with the Nets.
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Postby kinokong on Sat Aug 06, 2005 9:47 pm

me 2 hes a warrior missed only a handful of games throughout his career but i don't want to see him risk it ala grant hill
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Postby Indy on Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:18 am

Shareef says he doesn't want to be a Net.

http://www.nypost.com/sports/nets/26727.htm

August 7, 2005 -- The Nets have bigger problems than the condition of Shareef Abdur-Rahim's right knee. The team's handling of medical concerns growing from his physical have alienated the power forward to the point where he on longer wants join the team.
"Right now I don't feel I want to be a Net," Abdur-Rahim told The Post last night by telephone.

"I can go somewhere else and play my career out. This is not an emotional thing. I've got to stand up for myself."

When the Nets announced on Thursday that their deal with the Trail Blazers for Abdur-Rahim had been put on hold, the 6-foot-9 power forward said he understood the franchise was doing it's due diligence.

But when the situation wasn't resolved by yesterday and Abdur-Rahim was overwhelmed by phone calls from concerned friends and family saying they had read newspaper and Internet accounts of him failing his physical, he became more upset.

By 8 o'clock last night, Abdur-Rahim had yet to go out and celebrate his fifth wedding anniversary. He was on the phone discussing his options with his agent, Aaron Goodwin, and telling The Post how disenchanted with the Nets he had become.

"At this point I feel they're doing me a disservice," said Abdur-Rahim. "Look at my history. I've never missed a game because of my knees. They could have asked the team that drafted me [Vancouver] or any of the teams that have traded for me [Atlanta, Portland]. Instead, they're putting it out there like I failed the physical and I'm damaged goods.



"I don't want to be there," continued Abdur-Rahim. "We can just part ways and I'll find another situation where I'll have to do some damage control."

Abdur-Rahim doesn't have the power to stop the deal, but as Goodwin pointed out, "If you were the Nets, why would you bring in a player who no longer wants to be there?"

The Nets had a news conference scheduled for Thursday morning to introduce Abdur-Rahim, but an MRI found scar tissue in his right knee resulting from an injury he suffered in high school. He underwent arthroscopic surgery in 1993 and has never missed a game in college or during his nine-year NBA career because of a knee injury.

But because the Nets are investing $38 million and six years in Abdur-Rahim, they put the trade on hold.

Net President Rod Thorn never said Abdur-Rahim failed the physical - rather that the team had a concern.

"We're trying to gather all the information and make as informed a decision as we can," Thorn told The Post last night. "It's something that came out of the blue. It's something that we were not at all aware of."

A source told The Post the Nets sent copies of the MRI to three of the most prominent sports orthopedic surgeons in the nation - Dr. David Altcheck, Dr. Russ Warren, the Giants' team doctor, and Dr. James Andrews, who pioneered what is now known as Tommy John surgery.

Goodwin told The Post on Friday that Altcheck agreed with the power forward that the condition is not one for concern. The Nets agreed to send a 2006 protected first-round lottery pick and the team's $4.9 million trade exception to Portland for Abdur-Rahim.

The Nets have until Friday to complete the deal.
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Postby Blue Nugget on Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:59 am

damn now i just made a new thread about it. ~_~
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Postby Indy on Mon Aug 08, 2005 3:04 am

Green Lantern wrote:damn now i just made a new thread about it. ~_~


Damn, I just responded to your new thread about it :P

EDIT: Yippie!! 2000 :chug:
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Postby Jona on Mon Aug 08, 2005 4:11 am

Indy wrote:EDIT: Yippie!! 2000 :chug:


Woo hoo! Congrats Indy! (Y)
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Postby Doobie on Mon Aug 08, 2005 7:55 am

Where do you think shareef will go????

Congrats indy!!!
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Postby Indy on Mon Aug 08, 2005 7:57 am

Thanks Jona and Doobie (Y)

Personally I think this is all SAR trying to speed up the process. His agent probably told him to say that to try and get NJ to act quickly and pull this off as fast as possible.

I still think SAR will end up a Net.
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Postby Fresh8 on Mon Aug 08, 2005 7:59 am

I think he will get over it and go to the Nets
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Postby [L3]1101 on Mon Aug 08, 2005 9:50 am

seattle wouldn't be a bad place for him, they need a PF....
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Postby AlwaysWhat,NeverWhy on Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:06 am

EDIT: Yippie!! 2000


Hey, good job Indy... (Y) 8-)

Now for that traditional milestone thread... :idea:
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Postby Doobie on Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:29 pm

[L3]1101 wrote:seattle wouldn't be a bad place for him, they need a PF....


he would be a good adition but i would love to see gary payton return there , even though they have luke ridnour.
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Postby kinokong on Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:15 pm

saw it on realgm said that nj is gonna pull this off and reef is going to be a net
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archi ... in_jersey/
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Postby Kemp on Mon Aug 08, 2005 8:50 pm

Of course Rahim will play for the Nets, he now got the opportunity to start his favourite spot PF as well as playing his first ever playoffs game this season. Nets should be in the playoffs.
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