Who think Billups is MVP?

Like real basketball, as well as basketball video games? Talk about the NBA, NCAA, and other professional and amateur basketball leagues here.

Who think Billups is MVP?

Postby Fewrookies-From2kW/Love on Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:06 pm

The Pistons lost to the Magics without Rip. I know the Magics are playing great ball these days but noway should they beat the pistons. Everyone of the Pistons are just as important as Billups. I know this is just one game, but Nash is MVP.
Image
"I’ve never seen anyone in the NBA jump as high as Vince.” - Vin Baker
“Like any great player, Vince goes out and says, 'Give me the basketball in the fourth quarter.'” - Paul Silas
“I always tease him of how he already scores 20 when he enter the building. He's that good." - J-Kidd
“There’s a lot of pressure being ‘The Next Man(Jordan).’ I’m my own person and I want to establish my own identity." - Vinsanity
User avatar
Fewrookies-From2kW/Love
 
Posts: 253
Joined: Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:42 pm
Location: Canada

Re: Who think Billups is MVP?

Postby KIG1 on Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:18 pm

Fewrookies-From2kW/Love wrote:The Pistons lost to the Magics without Rip. I know the Magics are playing great ball these days but noway should they beat the pistons. Everyone of the Pistons are just as important as Billups. I know this is just one game, but Nash is MVP.


First of all its Magic not Magics. Second of all, Billups wasnt the MVP in the first place. The whole Pistons team contributes as much as the other player on the team. So whoever thinks Billups is MVP, hes not going to be. Its really just a toss-up between a few players.
User avatar
KIG1
 
Posts: 2823
Joined: Mon Nov 14, 2005 4:00 pm
Location: St. Louis, Missouri

Postby DB on Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:19 pm

Billups is an "all star" at best.











It's Kobe or Lebron...
User avatar
DB
 
Posts: 257
Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2004 10:57 pm
Location: belgium

Postby Fewrookies-From2kW/Love on Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:23 pm

^^ its not gonna be Kobe, you team have to be at top 1, 2, or 3 seat, or atleast winning. If the Caves can win 50, then maybe.
Image
"I’ve never seen anyone in the NBA jump as high as Vince.” - Vin Baker
“Like any great player, Vince goes out and says, 'Give me the basketball in the fourth quarter.'” - Paul Silas
“I always tease him of how he already scores 20 when he enter the building. He's that good." - J-Kidd
“There’s a lot of pressure being ‘The Next Man(Jordan).’ I’m my own person and I want to establish my own identity." - Vinsanity
User avatar
Fewrookies-From2kW/Love
 
Posts: 253
Joined: Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:42 pm
Location: Canada

Postby Mayerhendrix on Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:31 pm

Billups doesn't really deserve it but since the Pistons have been doing so well he's probably going to be a favorite.

In my opinion Lebron James, having carried his team to the 4th seed 3 years after being a top-lottery team, deserves the award. (Y)
Image
User avatar
Mayerhendrix
 
Posts: 696
Joined: Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:50 pm

Postby Fresh8 on Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:55 pm

I think he should be considered as an MVP candidate - heck, I think he could win it. He's the clutch scorer and the playmaker for the Pistons. When Detroit need someone to step up, Billups is the man. So what if Orlando beat them? It's only one game and yes, Rip is an important part to the Pistons and I'm not doubting that. However, Billups is still MVP wrothy IMO.
User avatar
Fresh8
The poster formerly known as Sit
 
Posts: 14872
Joined: Mon Nov 11, 2002 5:19 pm

Postby Andrew on Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:02 pm

He's a worthy candidate, but my vote still goes to Nash.
User avatar
Andrew
Retro Basketball Gamer
Administrator
 
Posts: 115127
Joined: Thu Aug 22, 2002 8:51 pm
Location: Australia

Postby DaTruth36 on Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:32 pm

If people are allowed to do this to me, I made as well do it now.

This is a retarted thread, Billups is definetly not MVP. He MIGHT be top 20 at best.
User avatar
DaTruth36
 
Posts: 404
Joined: Sun Jan 15, 2006 12:11 am
Location: Beantown

Postby Fewrookies-From2kW/Love on Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:43 pm

DaTruth36 wrote:If people are allowed to do this to me, I made as well do it now.

This is a retarted thread, Billups is definetly not MVP. He MIGHT be top 20 at best.


So, either my threads are bias or retarded, one way or the other. What are gonna do with you.

"20 at best?" Now that is retareded. Name me 19 others who can top him. I bet you will stop at 4.
Image
"I’ve never seen anyone in the NBA jump as high as Vince.” - Vin Baker
“Like any great player, Vince goes out and says, 'Give me the basketball in the fourth quarter.'” - Paul Silas
“I always tease him of how he already scores 20 when he enter the building. He's that good." - J-Kidd
“There’s a lot of pressure being ‘The Next Man(Jordan).’ I’m my own person and I want to establish my own identity." - Vinsanity
User avatar
Fewrookies-From2kW/Love
 
Posts: 253
Joined: Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:42 pm
Location: Canada

Postby lassen24 on Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:51 pm

DaTruth36 wrote:If people are allowed to do this to me, I made as well do it now.

This is a retarted thread, Billups is definetly not MVP. He MIGHT be top 20 at best.

oh my god, "Top 20 at best :roll:". The only guys who can beat him are Nash, and maybe Nowitzki, or James.

Personally though, i really don't think we're showing Elton Brand enough love. He's a beast and should definetley get more consideration.
User avatar
lassen24
 
Posts: 187
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:23 am

Postby DaTruth36 on Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:52 pm

Ok, (not in in order)

Kobe
Nash
LeBron
Pierce
Arenas
Wallace
Carter
Wade
Hamilton
Iverson
Kidd
T-Mac
Duncan
Garnett
Melo


Well, there's 15. Sorry I couldn't stop at 4. :roll:
User avatar
DaTruth36
 
Posts: 404
Joined: Sun Jan 15, 2006 12:11 am
Location: Beantown

Postby lassen24 on Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:57 pm

DaTruth36 wrote:Ok, (not in in order)

Kobe
Nash
LeBron
Pierce
Arenas
Wallace
Carter
Wade
Hamilton
Iverson
Kidd
T-Mac
Duncan
Garnett
Melo


Well, there's 15. Sorry I couldn't stop at 4. :roll:

what are you on? peirce? sorry homer but guys who don't make the playoffs don't get MVP. Wallace, no matter which wallace this is.... no. Iverson, not even going to be in playoffs. T-Mac, this is the funniest of all. The guys played like 30 games and you put him ahead of Billups for MVP. hahahahaha. Garnett isn't going to be in the playoffs either. Man stop being such a tool and we won't make fun of you so much.
User avatar
lassen24
 
Posts: 187
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:23 am

Postby Fewrookies-From2kW/Love on Sat Apr 08, 2006 2:01 pm

Kobe
Nash
LeBron
Pierce
Arenas
Wallace
Carter
Wade
Hamilton
Iverson
Kidd
T-Mac
Duncan
Garnett
Melo

Dude, you have to be10 years old or just started to watch the NBA. Do you know what it takes to be an MVP? Winning games. Most of the guys(bold) their ain't even gonna make the damn playoffs.

The rest, such as Kobe, Lebron, Carter, Wade, Duncan, I guess they can be consider a candidate, but definitely not above Billups.

And Mac is an MVP candidate? Do know anything other than DP? Mac been injured for the most of the season.
Image
"I’ve never seen anyone in the NBA jump as high as Vince.” - Vin Baker
“Like any great player, Vince goes out and says, 'Give me the basketball in the fourth quarter.'” - Paul Silas
“I always tease him of how he already scores 20 when he enter the building. He's that good." - J-Kidd
“There’s a lot of pressure being ‘The Next Man(Jordan).’ I’m my own person and I want to establish my own identity." - Vinsanity
User avatar
Fewrookies-From2kW/Love
 
Posts: 253
Joined: Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:42 pm
Location: Canada

Postby j.23 on Sat Apr 08, 2006 2:56 pm

quite frankly, whichever candidate wins MVP (billups, wade, bryant, james, nowitzki, nash, brand) doesn't matter, they deserve it, period. there were lots of superstars this year that stepped their game up and helped their team get better and to the playoffs. but yeah, no complaint from me -- whoever wins this one deserves it.
User avatar
j.23
 
Posts: 2894
Joined: Mon May 26, 2003 6:09 pm
Location: nuts in your face

Postby Fresh8 on Sat Apr 08, 2006 3:13 pm

To Datruth: Depends what you call the MVP but I will tell you that many people who vote want the MVP to have helepd their team win at least 50-55 games... This season, there werea lot of worthy candidates and a few that would have been worthy if their teams were better.

If you're lookin statistically... you could make cases for KG, AI and Kobe. In terms of impact for their teams you would include other guys like Bron, Brand, Nowtizki and Nash. Then you have the guys who hsare time with awesome teammates like Shawn Marion (Yep, I think he could be a legit candidate), VC (anyone?), Tony Parker, Time Duncan and Billups. It's really open... but the fact that you say Billups is nowhere near top 20? Thats just bogus.

If you're referring to the MVP race... then these are the real candidates:

Nash
Billups
Nowitzki
James
Bryant
Brand

^^ There ya go.. IMO he's more like Top 6... :roll:
User avatar
Fresh8
The poster formerly known as Sit
 
Posts: 14872
Joined: Mon Nov 11, 2002 5:19 pm

Postby The_Flying_Tomato on Sat Apr 08, 2006 4:29 pm

More like:
Nash
James
Dirk
Billups

Top 4

I'd say Elton, but nobody's giving him respect, and he won't get enough attention.

Take each of these players out of the lineup. Nash=out, suns suck. James= out? dirk=out? billups=out? problem is, billups hasn't missed a game in some time, and i dunno if dirk or lebron have this season
benji wrote:We're still on that stupidity? Giving Kidd the MVP in 2002 is as bad as giving Nash the MVP in any year...

Controversial Clippers
User avatar
The_Flying_Tomato
 
Posts: 1191
Joined: Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:01 pm
Location: Yes

Postby Laxation on Sat Apr 08, 2006 4:40 pm

It would be great to give it to billups, but its hard to vote for someone who has 3 allstars on his team. That said, however, Nash also has a great team, and it can be argued that Billups and Nash both make their teams better. Without Billups, would Detroit have 3 allstars? Maybe not...
I really dont want Dirk to win it because then I lose a bet with my friend. :lol:
Image
User avatar
Laxation
Just wants to Tri-Force
 
Posts: 4400
Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:28 pm
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Postby gergerjai on Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:40 pm

DaTruth36 wrote:Ok, (not in in order)

Kobe
Nash
LeBron
Pierce
Arenas
Wallace
Carter
Wade
Hamilton
Iverson
Kidd
T-Mac
Duncan
Garnett
Melo


Well, there's 15. Sorry I couldn't stop at 4. :roll:


Well, if I were you I would put Pierce behind him.
Pierce is a top 10~15 at best. ( I was gonna say top 20 but hey.)
No way he will top Duncan, KG, Wade, Carter and Iverson. I would put him somewhere above Melo.
gergerjai
 
Posts: 290
Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2003 12:44 pm

Postby Fresh8 on Sat Apr 08, 2006 7:21 pm

It would be great to give it to billups, but its hard to vote for someone who has 3 allstars on his team. That said, however, Nash also has a great team, and it can be argued that Billups and Nash both make their teams better. Without Billups, would Detroit have 3 allstars? Maybe not...


- Also, think how Billups played against Nash when the Pistons played the Suns. An argument could be made but right now... it seems that everyone thinks Nash will easily win it.
User avatar
Fresh8
The poster formerly known as Sit
 
Posts: 14872
Joined: Mon Nov 11, 2002 5:19 pm

Postby Laxation on Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:37 pm

gergerjai wrote:
DaTruth36 wrote:Ok, (not in in order)


Well, if I were you I would put Pierce behind him.
Pierce is a top 10~15 at best. ( I was gonna say top 20 but hey.)
No way he will top Duncan, KG, Wade, Carter and Iverson. I would put him somewhere above Melo.

wtfs wrong with you?
Image
User avatar
Laxation
Just wants to Tri-Force
 
Posts: 4400
Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:28 pm
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Postby dada on Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:45 pm

DaTruth36 sounds so angry/bitter. I think all the bashing is getting to him and who knows, he might be suicidal. He always says stuff like "They do this to me all the time."


Oh well, I wonder why he still posts here...who know.

Oh well.
User avatar
dada
 
Posts: 4669
Joined: Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:02 pm

Postby Keith Frazier on Sun Apr 09, 2006 12:01 am

The average wins per season for the MVP is about 62, so we can safely rule out LeBron, Kobe and Iverson. And I think its pretty obvious that no Piston will win it based on their extreme balance. The Spurs are also showing some balance that will prevent Duncan from winning. Nash, Wade and Dirk have a chance.
Keith Frazier
 
Posts: 15
Joined: Fri Apr 07, 2006 1:32 pm

Postby dan_suth on Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:19 am

I agree with Keith Frazier for the most part. I would love to see Chauncey win it, but it doesn't look too likely right about now. To me, the top 4 contenders are Nash, Wade, Dirk, and Lebron - only if he can get the Cavs up to or really close to 50 wins. I think Kobe and Billups have about the same odds of winning the MVP - in one case it's possible as long as the voters don't mind giving it to the leader of an 8-seeded team, and in the other case it's possible if the voters would rather give it to the most important player on the best team in the league.

It's really a toss-up this year, of those six I mentioned, basically any of them could win it. I wouldn't mind seeing Elton Brand win it either, as it seems as if he's not getting enough recognition around the league and in the media.
Image
User avatar
dan_suth
 
Posts: 264
Joined: Fri Jun 11, 2004 2:04 pm
Location: Auburn Hills, Michigan

Postby Drex on Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:25 am

I think all the bashing is getting to him and who knows, he might be suicidal.

DaEmo36? :mrgreen:
Image
User avatar
Drex
You bastards!!!
 
Posts: 6074
Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2002 10:48 am
Location: Iquique, Chile

Postby Axel on Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:16 pm

lassen24 wrote:Personally though, i really don't think we're showing Elton Brand enough love. He's a beast and should definetley get more consideration.


Gotta agree there. The Clippers have played great this year, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them upset Dallas or possibly move into the Conference Finals.
User avatar
Axel
 
Posts: 2853
Joined: Sat Nov 26, 2005 9:46 am
Location: North Carolina

Next

Return to NBA & Basketball

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 10 guests