Converted NLSC Roster - Beta

[Andrew]

Since creating a new roster from scratch is proving extremely time consuming, I decided to give converting my offseason roster update for NBA Live 08 a try. I haven't abandoned the roster I've been working on as it may be that I have to go that route instead but in the meantime I've made this beta for everyone to try.

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Unzip it to your NBA Live 06 saves folder and then load it up from the Load/Save Menu.

Basically, I'm not interested in any feedback on the ratings or anything like that at this point, this is just to see if it's going to work without any crashes or other weird and undesirable behaviour. Since I'll be able to maintain just one update and use it for both 08 and 07 (thanks to Spree#8 for the heads up on that one), I'd like to see if I can also just convert that update for use with 06.

A FEW NOTES ABOUT KNOWN ISSUES

1. Yes, a few transactions are missing. It's converted from the 08 roster in progress. I'm aware of that the transactions have been made, as I said this is just to see if the conversion works.
   
2. There are no faces included so yes, there are missing faces. That's something that's obviously going to be fixed when it's combined with the appropriate art updates so that's not a concern at this time.
   
3. I haven't gone through and fixed values in the databases that point to art like certain shoes and Rip Hamilton's face mask which do not appear in NBA Live 06. Again, please ignore any art issues for the moment, they're easily fixed by changing values and/or making sure the appropriate art is available. Right now, I'm looking for crashes related to database errors and other weird behaviour.
   
4. I haven't run a Primacy Fix on the rosters so the scoring averages are going to be messed up for the most part.

I've tested the beta and for the most part it works alright. Roster management functions appear to work, I didn't run into any crashes and I was able to sim through an entire season and offseason in Dynasty Mode without any problems. However, I did run into a strange issue with the Draft Lottery where Atlanta and Toronto were assigned several picks in the first round, though the second round worked as normal. Something to look out for, I'm not sure what might be causing it.

So yeah, please do your best to break it. Let me know whatever problems you run into (except any art issues which I'm already aware of) so I can see if this will be a better way to go.

[Bodz]

Hi Andrew

I've tested the beta roster, and apart from those kinks which you've highlighted, I didn't encounter any game crashes... For Dynasty mode, I got several draft picks for the following teams:

1. ATL: 10
2. GSW: 3
3. NJN: 2
4. CHA: 3
5. POR: 2

I notice for repeated team drafts, it's indicated as "Atlanta (ATL)".

Otherwise, it's everything else seems ok...

[Andrew]

The same thing happened for me, I was hoping it was a once off glitch. Thanks for the feedback, I'll see if I can work out what's causing that.

[Bodz]

I'll do a sim for a few more seasons to see if it persists...

[fumanchu]

thanks for this Andrew...updated or not, it's still a gud release for 06

[Andrew]

I'll do a sim for a few more seasons to see if it persists...

It will, unfortunately. I've been trying a few fixes but nothing's worked yet, hopefully I can find out what's causing it since it would definitely streamline the roster updates.

thanks for this Andrew...updated or not, it's still a gud release for 06

You're welcome, but I wouldn't recommend starting a serious Dynasty game with it, it will prove to be disappointing since it's a rough conversion (and of course, the draft pick issue).

[Bodz]

hopefully I can find out what's causing it since it would definitely streamline the roster updates.

Sorry that I can't offer any solutions to the fixes...

[balleralm0916]

So how up to date is this rosters?...like do they have the latest draft picks from the 2008 Draft?

[Andrew]

Sorry that I can't offer any solutions to the fixes...

No worries, appreciate you taking a look at it.

So how up to date is this rosters?...like do they have the latest draft picks from the 2008 Draft?

It's accurate as of about August 14th, but I think you've missed the point. This isn't a stable release, it's very much a work in progress; specifically, a conversion of the NBA Live 08 roster update in progress to see if it's feasible for me to maintain just one update and convert it (as I'll be able to do with 08 and 07). Before I go any further with it, I'd like to see what issues might arise. So far it's only been the draft picks error but that's still an annoyance as I want the rosters to work properly.

[axare]

I SOLVED IT!!!!!

just replace the tmcareer.dbf file with another roster's tmcareer.dbf

well...it worked for me...

[Andrew]

Works for me too, nice one. About the only file I hadn't tried replacing yet, I wouldn't have thought the team stats database would cause a problem like that. Anyhow, it would seem that problem is fixed and so far so good otherwise. Let me know if you run into any other glitches or crashes, it looks like I'll be able to maintain the one update and convert it though.

[Bodz]

Hurray to axare!!

[Bryan_C.]

its ok now!, release the next version of this rosters with rookie cfs!

[z_dize]

excuse me, i don't know if this are art related but in your next release..

please make body updates and shooting hand updates too. example, sun yue of the lakers is left handed and is skinny built.. brandan wright of gs warriors is left handed as well.

and put default shoe values for each player if possible so that pink shoes will be avoided(since you'll just be working on one roster file and convert them,some shoe updates for 08 are not present in 06) just some few thoughts to make the roster more accurate..

thanks Andrew.

[Andrew]

Well, it's not quite the feedback I was looking for, those are things that will be fixed up. As I explained in my first post, I'm not looking for those kinds of corrections at this time, I want to make sure the converted roster will work properly for everyone ie it doesn't crash or do something weird like assign ten picks to the Hawks (which it won't now that we can establish it was a problem with tmcareer.dbf). But thanks all the same.

its ok now!, release the next version of this rosters with rookie cfs!

Please understand that there's still some work to do (and I'll actually need the rookie updates first, remember I don't make face patches), this beta is just to make sure the method is feasible. Fortunately, it seems that will be the case.

[Bodz]

Hi Andrew,

Do we use live 06 tmcareer.dbf to replacing the beta roster's tmcareer.dbf file?

[Bryan_C.]

Well, it's not quite the feedback I was looking for, those are things that will be fixed up. As I explained in my first post, I'm not looking for those kinds of corrections at this time, I want to make sure the converted roster will work properly for everyone ie it doesn't crash or do something weird like assign ten picks to the Hawks (which it won't now that we can establish it was a problem with tmcareer.dbf). But thanks all the same.

its ok now!, release the next version of this rosters with rookie cfs!

Please understand that there's still some work to do (and I'll actually need the rookie updates first, remember I don't make face patches), this beta is just to make sure the method is feasible. Fortunately, it seems that will be the case.

Can you use the cfs you've requested in the "Faces Needed for the next nlsc roster update" thread for this project?

[Andrew]

Hi Andrew,

Do we use live 06 tmcareer.dbf to replacing the beta roster's tmcareer.dbf file?

Yes, that's right.

Can you use the cfs you've requested in the "Faces Needed for the next nlsc roster update" thread for this project?

Possibly, I understand that the hair.ebo files are not backwards compatible though. The art isn't much of a concern at this time, there are people who can create and convert faces and such. So long as the rosters are setup to use that artwork when it's available.

[Stress Fracture]

Hey Mr. Andrew....
The roster update works!!!!! Some of the players have speechid's... Did you also do it? Haha..

[mhar]

this is a great roster to play while we're waiting for the release of the NBALive PC project..if only someone could fix the pink shoes ..there's so many of them..the pink faces are easy..only a few ..

[Andrew]

Hey Mr. Andrew....
The roster update works!!!!! Some of the players have speechid's... Did you also do it? Haha..

Well, it's identical to the NBA Live 08 update in progress so there will be some working SPEECHIDs.

[Bodz]

Hi Andrew,

When I used Kobe Bryant to play, I notice his FSS Outside Scorer is different from that of MJ. In fact, I can't execute the outside scorer movements that MJ can if I change MJ's FSS to that of Outside Scorer.

For Kobe, only the the FSS shooting actions are ok, but those driving to the lane actions aren't (like the reverse layup, and the other 2 layups)... Was this purposely done to differentiate the different FSS movements which was previously discussed in the other topics of this thread?

[rex81]

Hi Andrew,
I run NBA07 this morning and tried to use 08 roster,it works only for the first season.When come to the Draft next year,a crash happened...It seems 08 roster doesn't fit for NBA07.

[Andrew]

Hi Andrew,

When I used Kobe Bryant to play, I notice his FSS Outside Scorer is different from that of MJ. In fact, I can't execute the outside scorer movements that MJ can if I change MJ's FSS to that of Outside Scorer.

For Kobe, only the the FSS shooting actions are ok, but those driving to the lane actions aren't (like the reverse layup, and the other 2 layups)... Was this purposely done to differentiate the different FSS movements which was previously discussed in the other topics of this thread?

It wasn't done on purpose, it would seem that's another issue with the converted rosters I'll need to figure out.

Hi Andrew,
I run NBA07 this morning and tried to use 08 roster,it works only for the first season.When come to the Draft next year,a crash happened...It seems 08 roster doesn't fit for NBA07.

Well it doesn't work if you just copy the rosters and try to use all of the NBA Live 08 databases with NBA Live 07. I have found a way to use the 08 update with 07 which will streamline the process and the method I use does not result in any crashes.

[mhar]

is there a way to unlock the shoes of some players with pink shoes?when i tried to manually change the shoes of some players..there are no shoes available..all of them are locked..TIA..

@ sir andrew..any plans of releasing an updated version of this roster with some problems fixed?like pink shoes and faces..updated rosters..thanks..