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Postby shadowgrin on Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:29 pm

alfa wrote:on the contrary, the concept of men having multiple wives is actually discouraged in islamic texts; it is only allowed for men to have more than one wife if they can treat the women evenly

What are we "contrary-ing" anyway.
I only gave the history of that thing.
I didn't say it's the reason why Islam is good or bad. :?
I didn't "contrary" with any of what you just posted.
alfa wrote:not allowed to marry out of lust, but only if a women is in a vulnerable position in society, such as being an orphan or a widow; the final say goes to the original wife

..I hate quoting myself..
shadowidiot wrote:men are decreasing in numbers because of the war, so they were allowed to marry the women who are widowed or not able to sufficiently support themselves. With the "multiple wives" and "women allowed to work" writing/policy in the Koran, it made sure that the women were taken care off.

That original wife consent is a new one to me though.
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Diddyiot wrote:shadowgrin,read better u idiot! i've been at turkey, kazachstan... tell me is it normal that God tells the people to pray every "10 minutes"? it looks like a joke to me! God is in everybody's soul! people, who have trust in him should pray when they can, but not all the day!

alfa wrote:as for praying, it is not all the time, onl 5 times a day for like 10 minutes each

Diddy you retarded brain-dead idiot, as what I said before in this thread..
shadowgrin wrote:stop generalizing and talking smack if you know that you know little about the subject matter.
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Postby diddy on Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:48 pm

shadowgrin wrote:
Diddyiot wrote:shadowgrin,read better u idiot! i've been at turkey, kazachstan... tell me is it normal that God tells the people to pray every "10 minutes"? it looks like a joke to me! God is in everybody's soul! people, who have trust in him should pray when they can, but not all the day!

alfa wrote:as for praying, it is not all the time, onl 5 times a day for like 10 minutes each

Diddy you retarded brain-dead idiot, as what I said before in this thread..
shadowgrin wrote:stop generalizing and talking smack if you know that you know little about the subject matter.


what the heck did u do with my avatar? and u don't get my point, i don't have anything against church!

Joe and why should i go away from this thread if i'm speaking about my meanings of the matter? if my point of view doesn't match with someone elses it doesn't mean that i can be banned or smth.
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Postby J@3 on Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:57 pm

Yeah shadowgrin you shouldn't have messed with his avatar. What were you thinking?
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Postby shadowgrin on Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:58 pm

Diddy, I sold your soul to the devil but all he gave was that avatar in return.
Sucks isn't it?
Diddyiot wrote:i don't have anything against church!

Diddyiot wrote: tell me is it normal that God tells the people to pray every "10 minutes"? it looks like a joke to me

Diddyass wrote:how could u imagine a religion, which god tells to their Men not to work, and only pray all the days and greating {god}??? and women should work! and also - kill other people!

Diddy wrote:why should i go away from this thread if i'm speaking about my meanings of the matter? if my point of view doesn't match with someone elses it doesn't mean that i can be banned or smth.

Good point. Being and idiot is not against any law that I know of. I guess you're right.
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Postby diddy on Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:28 pm

shadowgrin wrote:
Diddyiot wrote:i don't have anything against church!



that's tru

shadowgrin wrote:
Diddyiot wrote: tell me is it normal that God tells the people to pray every "10 minutes"? it looks like a joke to me

Diddyass wrote:how could u imagine a religion, which god tells to their Men not to work, and only pray all the days and greating {god}??? and women should work! and also - kill other people!

Diddy wrote:why should i go away from this thread if i'm speaking about my meanings of the matter? if my point of view doesn't match with someone elses it doesn't mean that i can be banned or smth.



i spoke bout islam, but not about the Christianity and Orthodox Church. as the Christianian we should pray the God when we feel bad, sad, need help and in some religious holidays.
but islam - is the other thing!

how much do u know bout war in the meaning of islam? do u know how many terroristic act take place in Russia a year? do u know how any people dies from the weapon of the islamists in Russia EVERY YEAR? I DON'T THINK SO! and don't tell me that i don't know what i'm talking bout! those islamist thinks that war against russians is a HOLY war! and they came to our country (i don't say that Russia for russians only, no, if u - islamist (they are from chechnya, azerbaidjan, george...and so) peacefull men - lets live in peace, but no they feel here in Russia like they at home, killing, stoleing - it's normal for them) and after that, after terroristical acts we(Russian military) have to go to their countries and they doesn't understand nothing! they captured our men, killed them with atrocity and send us videofilms, they have crucifixioned few soldiers on the CROSS and lit them die, they shot all fingers of the man, his knees, and let him walk to the our military's post ... and so on!
and don't tell me that i don't know specifics of the islam and islamists. beleave me i know a LOT! only watching movie CHISTILICHE makes u so ... i dont have even word to describe it. no one american movie direcor even haven't any idea what the did there!
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Postby benji on Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:44 pm

Islamists are different than muslims. All islamists may be muslims, but all muslims are not islamists.

Same thing for terrorists, those pushing for war.

Men commit crimes, not religion.
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Postby diddy on Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:22 pm

benji, u're right!
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Postby shadowgrin on Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:12 pm

^ If you agree with benji, then stop generalizing all Muslims (those who follow Islam in case you don't know. Idiot) as a bunch of murderers that the extremists are.
Diddy you numbskull wrote:i spoke bout islam, but not about the Christianity and Orthodox Church. as the Christianian we should pray the God when we feel bad, sad, need help and in some religious holidays.
but islam - is the other thing!

It's people like you that make me ashamed of Christianity.
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At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.
Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.
I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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Postby diddy on Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:17 pm

shadowgrin, u're an idiot, do u got it? if u were a wise and intellegent man, u would not call others like that! i don't know your age, but i'm sure u're under 18! and if u don't understand serious things what i'm talking bout - so u're an Idiot!

and make sure u unblocked sending private messages for me!
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Postby Joe' on Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:13 am

Funny how you keep saying Muslims attack Russia everyday and generalize by saying all of them are terrorists while you Russians killed an enormous number (close to five million, so they say) of Muslims between 1921-22 and 1992 with your Communist governments.

And I'm talking just and exclusively Muslims here: every one knows that son of a bitch Stalin killed over ten million people during his regime. If there is a terrorist in this story, that is you Russians.
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Postby diddy on Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:22 am

:mrgreen: okay i see u doen't know hostory very well too! it was Stalin! he was from George! first and last president who wasnt russian! and he was stupid and scared of smart people - he killed a huge numbers of jews and russian scientist, he did a LOT of idiotic things, so now 90% of russian poeple hate him! that's what happens when muslim come to wheel of a huge and great country like Russia!
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Postby Patr1ck on Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:20 am

Stop calling people idiots, please. Everybody. I don't want to hear this "he started it, or he said it first," just stop. If you all continue to insult each other over your beliefs, I will have to lock this thread.

Besides, idiots usually don't know they are idiots. :lol:
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Postby Joe' on Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:34 am

1: I know history, you're the one that lived under communism rule, not me, you're the one that lived in a country that hid history and reality until fifteen years ago.

2: Stalin was from the Russian Empire, he was raised and educated as a Russian. Georgian culture was practically dead during those times, so it was practically impossible for him to "be Georgian".

3. Stalin was not a Muslim. Once again, the "great country of Russia" did not permit other cultures than Russian to exist within the Empire.
Stalin's religion was, along with that of many other people during that time, Marxism, which lated morphed into Communism.

4. George is a common English name (both first and family), it is definitely not the name of the Eurasian country of Georgia.

5. Russia isn't a great country, it has never been. The fact that it's huge is due to the fact that its expansion happened in a part of the world that was occupied by much inferior civilizations at the time, that were, of course, easily defeated by the Russian Empire.
If you wanna know what a current great country is, take a look at Norway or Canada.

6. Learn how to spell correctly, people might get pissed off when trying to decipher whatever it is you wrote. I know I am right now.

7. FYI Stalin wasn't the only head of the Communist Party of the USSR that ordered to execute Muslims and/or start wars that eventually ended with huge Muslim losses (see Afghanistan War, 1978-1989).

Good day.
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Postby Cool2Fool on Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:44 am

I suggest you could go to yahoo messenger religion chat rooms. It will really help. I'm a cristian myself and I think its great!!!
The word of God is so great that there's over 85,000 version of the bible. The same content but just different translation... I believe in supernatural things because my family have seen quite plenty......GHOST!
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Postby J@3 on Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:59 am

and make sure u unblocked sending private messages for me!


Jesus shadowgrin. First you change his avatar and custom title, now you've blocked his private messages? What has gotten into you, cut it out.
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Postby benji on Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:04 am

Joe' wrote:If you wanna know what a current great country is, take a look at ... Canada.

Joe' wrote:If you wanna know what a current great country is, take a look at ... Canada.

Joe' wrote:If you wanna know what a current great country is, take a look at ... Canada.

Joe' wrote:If you wanna know what a current great country is, take a look at ... Canada.

Someone is smearing great countries by including Canada.
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Postby el badman on Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:19 am

The word of God is so great that there's over 85,000 version of the bible. The same content but just different translation...

Might also be that it sells so well...
If you wanna know what a current great country is, take a look at Norway or Canada.

What does that even mean, great in terms of what?
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Postby diddy on Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:48 am

Pdub ok man!

Joe' wrote:1: I know history, you're the one that lived under communism rule, not me, you're the one that lived in a country that hid history and reality until fifteen years ago.

2: Stalin was from the Russian Empire, he was raised and educated as a Russian. Georgian culture was practically dead during those times, so it was practically impossible for him to "be Georgian".

3. Stalin was not a Muslim. Once again, the "great country of Russia" did not permit other cultures than Russian to exist within the Empire.
Stalin's religion was, along with that of many other people during that time, Marxism, which lated morphed into Communism.

4. George is a common English name (both first and family), it is definitely not the name of the Eurasian country of Georgia.

5. Russia isn't a great country, it has never been. The fact that it's huge is due to the fact that its expansion happened in a part of the world that was occupied by much inferior civilizations at the time, that were, of course, easily defeated by the Russian Empire.
If you wanna know what a current great country is, take a look at Norway or Canada.

6. Learn how to spell correctly, people might get pissed off when trying to decipher whatever it is you wrote. I know I am right now.

7. FYI Stalin wasn't the only head of the Communist Party of the USSR that ordered to execute Muslims and/or start wars that eventually ended with huge Muslim losses (see Afghanistan War, 1978-1989).

Good day.


1. Russia has democraty for nerly 15 years already
2. muslim is muslim Geogrian is georgian, and don't tell me i'm wrong. i live here for 21 year already!
3. :):) communism isn't religion. it's a political regime
4. sorry bout dat, ill try speak correct, it's my emotions
5. Russia didn't lose any war, that took part in, we have unbreakable spirit and most beautiful women
6. sorry bout dat, ill try speak correct, it's my emotions
7. i know bout afganistan, my uncle was a military surgent there

good evening!
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Postby Gundy on Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:04 am

5. Russia didn't lose any war, that took part in, we have unbreakable spirit and most beautiful women


lmao. I just found that really funny.
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Postby J@3 on Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:20 am

2. muslim is muslim Geogrian is georgian, and don't tell me i'm wrong. i live here for 21 year already!


You are wrong. Muslim is a religious affiliation, Georgian is a nationality :lol:

7. i know bout afganistan, my uncle was a military surgent there


Christ...
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Postby SVG18 on Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:21 am

Russia didn't lose any war, that took part in


:shock: Goodbye credibility
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Postby Jackal on Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:32 am

Diddy wrote:Pdub ok man!

Joe' wrote:1: I know history, you're the one that lived under communism rule, not me, you're the one that lived in a country that hid history and reality until fifteen years ago.

2: Stalin was from the Russian Empire, he was raised and educated as a Russian. Georgian culture was practically dead during those times, so it was practically impossible for him to "be Georgian".

3. Stalin was not a Muslim. Once again, the "great country of Russia" did not permit other cultures than Russian to exist within the Empire.
Stalin's religion was, along with that of many other people during that time, Marxism, which lated morphed into Communism.

4. George is a common English name (both first and family), it is definitely not the name of the Eurasian country of Georgia.

5. Russia isn't a great country, it has never been. The fact that it's huge is due to the fact that its expansion happened in a part of the world that was occupied by much inferior civilizations at the time, that were, of course, easily defeated by the Russian Empire.
If you wanna know what a current great country is, take a look at Norway or Canada.

6. Learn how to spell correctly, people might get pissed off when trying to decipher whatever it is you wrote. I know I am right now.

7. FYI Stalin wasn't the only head of the Communist Party of the USSR that ordered to execute Muslims and/or start wars that eventually ended with huge Muslim losses (see Afghanistan War, 1978-1989).

Good day.


1. Russia has democraty for nerly 15 years already
2. muslim is muslim Geogrian is georgian, and don't tell me i'm wrong. i live here for 21 year already!
3. :):) communism isn't religion. it's a political regime
4. sorry bout dat, ill try speak correct, it's my emotions
5. Russia didn't lose any war, that took part in, we have unbreakable spirit and most beautiful women...if you're into women that resemble men
6. sorry bout dat, ill try speak correct, it's my emotions
7. i know bout afganistan, my uncle was a military surgent there

good evening!


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Postby el badman on Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:42 am

This thread is getting good, we should talk about Russia more often. :|
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Postby cyanide on Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:01 pm

benji wrote:
Joe' wrote:If you wanna know what a current great country is, take a look at ... Canada.

Someone is smearing great countries by including Canada.


Canada's a good country, if not great ;) What's wrong with Canada?
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