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Postby Silas on Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:20 am

I understand your reasoning on drafting Baron third, and though I feel Baron a better player than Rip, it makes sense to not send him to the Grizzlies. But, I think Shawn Marion would be a better fit there. He's versatile, and much more all-around and better. He's been an all star without Steve Nash so I think he'd be able to bring a lot to that team.

Shawn Marion should be 2nd, and Rip should be 4th. Everything else looks pretty good I must say. Some may argue Ginobili should go higher, but I personally don't like him, and your right about that "gone in Europe for several years thing" because that certainly does lower his stock. Lottery guys are expected to play "right now".
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Postby Lamrock on Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:33 am

Silas wrote:I understand your reasoning on drafting Baron third, and though I feel Baron a better player than Rip, it makes sense to not send him to the Grizzlies. But, I think Shawn Marion would be a better fit there. He's versatile, and much more all-around and better. He's been an all star without Steve Nash so I think he'd be able to bring a lot to that team.

Shawn Marion should be 2nd, and Rip should be 4th. Everything else looks pretty good I must say. Some may argue Ginobili should go higher, but I personally don't like him, and your right about that "gone in Europe for several years thing" because that certainly does lower his stock. Lottery guys are expected to play "right now".

I agree with you. I was thinking exactly that when I read it. Marion has been an all-star in the west for 5 straight seasons (opposed to Hamilton's two in the East) and despite being undersized, would have been a much better pick that Rip.

Otherwise, great re-draft. You better have da Kandiman somewhere in the lottery.
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Postby jonthefon on Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:15 am

1998 next...another rather conventional draft class, some good talent including Dirk, VC and the Truth.

Sean Marks for Pick 1! :wink:
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Postby Sauru on Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:38 am

the 1984 draft will be the best do over of them all.
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Postby JT_55 on Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:31 am

Who's in the 1984 draft? I don't mean to be ignorant but I have a good excuse; I wasn't born back then.
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Postby Anthony15 on Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:37 am

JT_55 wrote:Who's in the 1984 draft? I don't mean to be ignorant but I have a good excuse; I wasn't born back then.


Hakeem, MJ and Barkley to start things off ;)
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Postby Lamrock on Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:59 am

jonthefon wrote:1998 next...another rather conventional draft class, some good talent including Dirk, VC and the Truth.

Sean Marks for Pick 1! :wink:

Actually, its pretty strong. It had an MVP in Dirk (who chokes and doesn't defend, but undoubtedly was the best talent in the draft), franchise players Carter and Pierce, decent PG's in Bibby and Williams, and overrated former Warriors and Wizards teammates Larry Hughes and Antawn Jamison.

Not the mention plenty of decent role players like Ricky Davis, Olowokandi, Bonzi Wells, Raef LaFrentz and Ruben Patterson.
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Postby Sauru on Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:47 am

Anthony15 wrote:
JT_55 wrote:Who's in the 1984 draft? I don't mean to be ignorant but I have a good excuse; I wasn't born back then.


Hakeem, MJ and Barkley to start things off ;)



84 draft is imo the best draft class ever. not only did the 84 draft give us 4 hall of famers it also gave us alot of high quality roll players
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Postby Drex on Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:06 pm

Roll players? Did they taste good?
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Postby The X on Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:30 pm

seems like the consensus is to go with Marion at 2 & that he wouldn't step on Reef's feet as he's versatile enough to play either forward position....
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Postby Silas on Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:37 pm

its very true, he's proven he can play either forward spot. I think their inside out game would be much better if Shareef played the PF and Marion the SF.
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Postby Andrew on Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:30 pm

I'm not sure about Hamilton going at #2 as Marion or Odom could have slotted in alongside 'Reef in the frontcourt.

The X wrote:If you were wondering, the answer is yes, the 1998 Draft is the Sean Marks Draft :cool:


You know, you could probably put him in the top 13 and it would still be better than a couple of selections that were made that year. After all, of the 43 players taken ahead of him, 18 are no longer in the league including two lottery picks. :P

I'm interested to see if where you'll place Olowokandi, if indeed he still makes your lottery selections.
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Postby The X on Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:15 am

Andrew wrote:I'm not sure about Hamilton going at #2 as Marion or Odom could have slotted in alongside 'Reef in the frontcourt.

The X wrote:If you were wondering, the answer is yes, the 1998 Draft is the Sean Marks Draft :cool:


You know, you could probably put him in the top 13 and it would still be better than a couple of selections that were made that year. After all, of the 43 players taken ahead of him, 18 are no longer in the league including two lottery picks. :P

I'm interested to see if where you'll place Olowokandi, if indeed he still makes your lottery selections.

as I mentioned earlier, yeah, I agree Marion would slot into #2....I don't think I would have Odom over him though at #2....I'm not going to change my original mock that I posted, but yeah, after looking at it the last day or so, it was a slight mistake to put Rip at 2 & understating the versatility of Marion. So unofficially I have Marion at #2, & without looking at Clippers' roster, I'll chuck Rip at #4....

I don't think I'll have Marks in lottery....if it was a re-draft of the entire 1st Round, yep, I definitely think he would be in the top 29 (or 28 if Wolves lost their pick that year)....

the funny thing is with the re-drafting, I have come across articles by sports writer along the way, blasting selections of players like Pau Gasol who wouldn't be ready to impact for years, but praising picks like Tractor Traylor....it's good for a laugh & also shows the unpredictability of picking based on potential....
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Postby Silas on Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:37 am

Andrew wrote:I'm interested to see if where you'll place Olowokandi, if indeed he still makes your lottery selections.


Did Andrew just make a typo? That's something I never thought I'd see.

But as for 1998, I'm excited, the year of the lockout!
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Postby Andrew on Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:03 am

I didn't realise it was such a noteworthy event, particularly as I've done it before and will most likely do it again when I don't do a particularly thorough job of proof reading (particularly when I change my mind about how I want to phrase something). :P
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Postby Anthony15 on Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:55 pm

96 should be interesting also, tough choice if Philly would rather take AI or Kobe at 1.
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Postby JT_55 on Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:44 pm

Both selfish guy with big egos...I'd take the one with more points per game. Oh, and Kobe's younger too.
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Postby The X on Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:13 pm

Anthony15 wrote:96 should be interesting also, tough choice if Philly would rather take AI or Kobe at 1.

I already know who I'm taking at #1, but you'll just have to wait & see :P
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Postby Dan's Brain on Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:41 am

I already know who I'm taking at #1


Martin Muursepp?
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Postby Anthony15 on Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:38 am

Joakim_Noah13 wrote:
I already know who I'm taking at #1


Martin Muursepp?


No way, #1 has to be Efthimis Rentzias :lol:
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Postby Silas on Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:44 am

Since he didn't choose Korver number one overall in 2003, I don't think it really matters who he takes at any pick after this point.
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Postby TheMC5 on Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:07 am

Silas wrote:Since he didn't choose Korver number one overall in 2003, I don't think it really matters who he takes at any pick after this point.



What's with your Kyle Korver obsession?

I mean, Korver's OK, but what can he really do beyond shoot?

I guess gets a fair number of steals, but steals have been statistically shown to have very little correlation to winning. He has mediocre penetration/dribbling skills, is at best an average defender, doesn't rebound particularly well.

I'm just curious as to why you think he's so good.

Or do you just have a bit of a man-crush on him?
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Postby Anthony15 on Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:13 am

TheMC5 wrote:Or do you just have a bit of a man-crush on him?


:lol:

Do you know what sarcasm means, kid?
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Postby TheMC5 on Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:23 am

Anthony15 wrote:
TheMC5 wrote:Or do you just have a bit of a man-crush on him?


:lol:

Do you know what sarcasm means, kid?


Of course, and I realize that him stating that Korver should have gone #1 was sarcastic, yet his avatar, signature, and previous posts all lead me to believe that he really does think Korver is one of the best players in the league. I'm just curious as to why.

If I'm wrong and he's merely adopted a Stephen Colbert-like meta persona designed to lampoon the very thing he claims to be boosting, then I missed that somewhere.
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Postby Silas on Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:33 am

My intention is certainly not to lampoon the reputation of Kyle Korver.

And please, no more homophobic references. I've heard that remark far too many times and by people with far lower diction than yourself.
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