New tweaked roster update

by **Filip** on Sat Aug 16, 2003 12:04 am

Yeah but didn't know untill now what the Primacy rating meant, but I will tweak that now as well. Then it should be good to go almost.

I want about 44% FG average. 35% is to low

by **elwudl** on Sat Aug 16, 2003 12:28 am

The higher the primacy is, the more shots a player will take. I have set all primacys to 0 and let only the off-awareness decide. Cause that's important too if a player takes many shots or not

by **Filip** on Sat Aug 16, 2003 3:08 am

Halftime report

Code: Select all: Entire Game Indiana Houston Points 45 48 Bench Scoring 20 14 Field Goals 17/44 16/43 Field Goal % .386 .372 3 Point FG 4/16 6/11 3 Point % .250 .545 Free Throws 7/8 10/12 Free Throw % .875 .833 Rebounds 17 27 Off. Rebounds 0 7 Def. Rebounds 17 20 Blocks 3 7 Steals 5 3 Assists 8 11 Turnovers 7 13 Fouls 8 8

Now I lower the Primacy rating, and change some other details. Its getting better and better, but I still think the FG% is to low, maybe I will higher FG rating and lower the primacy even more. Cause Im happy with points. Turnovers is still to high.

by **Filip** on Sat Aug 16, 2003 4:30 am

Things are getting better and better! This is the entire game (12min*4)

Code: Select all: Entire Game Milwaukee Detroit Points 104 100 Bench Scoring 59 35 Field Goals 40/99 42/97 Field Goal % .404 .433 3 Point FG 5/15 4/18 3 Point % .333 .222 Free Throws 19/25 12/25 Free Throw % .760 .480 Rebounds 39 61 Off. Rebounds 5 20 Def. Rebounds 34 41 Blocks 9 20 Steals 11 5 Assists 30 22 Turnovers 14 28 Fouls 25 22

Almost perfect, the % is actually quite good now too.
The only big thing I can complain about is the turnovers that is still to high.

by **elwudl** on Sun Aug 17, 2003 7:37 pm

Slam harder wrote:Things are getting better and better! This is the entire game (12min*4)

Code: Select all
Entire Game Milwaukee Detroit Points 104 100 Bench Scoring 59 35 Field Goals 40/99 42/97 Field Goal % .404 .433 3 Point FG 5/15 4/18 3 Point % .333 .222 Free Throws 19/25 12/25 Free Throw % .760 .480 Rebounds 39 61 Off. Rebounds 5 20 Def. Rebounds 34 41 Blocks 9 20 Steals 11 5 Assists 30 22 Turnovers 14 28 Fouls 25 22

Almost perfect, the % is actually quite good now too.
The only big thing I can complain about is the turnovers that is still to high.

I don't think it's almost perfect.
There are too many FTA for this number of FGA. Also you have 20 off Rebs for Detroit and as a whole 61. This are numbers that will apear very very rarely. Especially for Detroit, a team that had a very very low average of Rebs per game last year.
20 Blocks are also way too high.

I don't want to say it's shit or something, simply wanting to help to get a top roster. :wink:

by **Filip** on Sun Aug 17, 2003 8:32 pm

Ok, maybe it's not almost perfect, but I think the stats are great and real good anyway. I mean it's real playable!

Fouls are easy to discrease. And I haven't discrase the off rebound rating at all, so that's no problem, I don't know if it's so unrealistic. I'll check it out.

The blocks are the only fully problem that I agree on. They are way to high, but it's not much to do about that. It's how you play that decide how high they are. I have seen that your roster also has the problem.

by **Dert** on Sun Aug 17, 2003 11:49 pm

Here are the stats for another game:

Code: Select all: Entire Game Seattle Chicago Points 92 87 Bench Scoring 25 29 Field Goals 38/100 36/93 Field Goal % .380 .387 3 Point FG 7/26 11/37 3 Point % .269 .297 Free Throws 9/24 4/4 Free Throw % .375 1.000 Rebounds 64 46 Off. Rebounds 21 4 Def. Rebounds 43 42 Blocks 11 5 Steals 8 15 Assists 28 20 Turnovers 19 21 Fouls 8 20

I was Seattle, so that's my fault for all those FT misses :oops:

. 21 offensive rebounds is alot, but most of them were from FT misses.

by **Filip** on Mon Aug 18, 2003 12:10 am

Hmm, maybe I should discrease the off reb ratings a bit.
The FG% were a bit low, Ill have that kind of % too, it should be about 43% or something, maybe I should actually increase the FG rating just s bit.

And the turnovers is a problem, is difficult to solve.

All the other nr is good.

by **Filip** on Mon Aug 18, 2003 12:18 am

One cons as you might have seen, is that some team ratings is all f*cked up. NJ Nets is rated last, 29 (!) en memphis is rated nr 5 (!). I don't know how to fix this, I have increase/discrease the rating for both team, but that didn't help much.

In the untweaked the team rating is much better! NJ Nets is rated nr 6 and memphis is rated nr 12 (still to high though).

by **elwudl** on Mon Aug 18, 2003 1:41 am

Slam harder wrote:Ok, maybe it's not almost perfect, but I think the stats are great and real good anyway. I mean it's real playable!

Fouls are easy to discrease. And I haven't discrase the off rebound rating at all, so that's no problem, I don't know if it's so unrealistic. I'll check it out.

The blocks are the only fully problem that I agree on. They are way to high, but it's not much to do about that. It's how you play that decide how high they are. I have seen that your roster also has the problem.

Oh no, my roster doesn't have 20 blocks a game. Look at the stats and you will see. The others that posted so crappy stats in my topic didn't follow all the instructions I gave them.

by **Filip** on Thu Aug 21, 2003 3:30 am

Some new stats here, I was Dallas (not with Jamison though).

Code: Select all: Entire Game Dallas Portland Points 120 118 Bench Scoring 34 21 Field Goals 45/98 42/90 Field Goal % .459 .467 3 Point FG 14/28 10/33 3 Point % .500 .303 Free Throws 16/23 24/27 Free Throw % .696 .889 Rebounds 49 35 Off. Rebounds 16 3 Def. Rebounds 33 32 Blocks 13 12 Steals 6 12 Assists 26 22 Turnovers 19 22 Fouls 18 24

High points? Yes but look at the 3s! I had luck and I can't say that Portland should be to sad either. Good off rebound also.

Next game, I was Orlando.

Code: Select all: Entire Game Orlando Philadelphia Points 101 84 Bench Scoring 35 40 Field Goals 42/100 31/83 Field Goal % .420 .373 3 Point FG 6/21 7/29 3 Point % .286 .241 Free Throws 11/19 15/18 Free Throw % .579 .833 Rebounds 66 38 Off. Rebounds 26 3 Def. Rebounds 40 35 Blocks 11 1 Steals 7 11 Assists 18 16 Turnovers 23 20 Fouls 18 33

by **Filip** on Sat Aug 23, 2003 8:03 am

Some bad news

: The team rating is getting worse and worse and I don't know why, cause in my utweaked roster (which I'll this time not include) the team rating is good.

So be ready to have some real strange teamratings, like NJ Nets no 29, Memphis Grizzlies no 4 and so on. I'm sorry about this, but it is not so much I can do about it, anyway the gameplay is great and that's the important (Y)

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The Releasing will be in a couple of days.

by **Filip** on Sat Aug 23, 2003 9:38 pm

New stats: I was 76ers

Code: Select all: Entire Game Portland Philadelphia Points 96 98 Bench Scoring 25 22 Field Goals 41/99 41/98 Field Goal % .414 .418 3 Point FG 6/29 4/21 3 Point % .207 .190 Free Throws 8/11 12/18 Free Throw % .727 .667 Rebounds 42 64 Off. Rebounds 9 20 Def. Rebounds 33 44 Blocks 7 4 Steals 16 9 Assists 22 28 Turnovers 17 24 Fouls 18 17

by **Filip** on Tue Aug 26, 2003 2:30 am

Have just send the update to Andrew, so the patch will probaly be out tomorrow.

WARNING: The Team ratings (as said before) is quite f*cked up.

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Tue Aug 26, 2003 11:14 am

It's extremely hard to balance it so that the player ratings and the team rankings are both accurate. If you worry too much about assigning ratings based on getting the rankings accurate, then you're not going to tweak the ratings to your satisfaction. My suggestion is to do the best you can with team rankings, but always keep ratings your focus. (Y)

by **joemimic** on Tue Aug 26, 2003 12:50 pm

I had balanced team rankings with player ratings so they were perfect, and it didnt make a difference. Losing teams still won too many games and winning teams still lost too many. Hopefully live 2004 will improve this.

by **Filip** on Tue Aug 26, 2003 5:16 pm

I have tried several times to discrease (e.g memphis) players rating, but it dosen't help.

But like I said before, the gameplay is the important.

by **Filip** on Tue Aug 26, 2003 5:19 pm

Boring that it's impossible and change the teams.dbfs overall rating, but I tried and it didn't work, anyway that would have been cheat I guess.

by **Filip** on Sat Aug 30, 2003 4:57 am

The L. Hunter, M. Curry trade changed Raptors ranking from 16 to 23. And Detroid didn't change, is still havin the 15rating.

But I got still some major wrong team ratings. And changin the ratings doesn't help :-(

by **Filip** on Sun Sep 14, 2003 1:56 am

New stats from 48min game. I was Utah.

Code: Select all: Entire Game Boston Utah Points 88 98 Bench Scoring 9 14 Field Goals 37/92 43/105 Field Goal % .402 .410 3 Point FG 5/31 5/24 3 Point % .161 .208 Free Throws 9/11 7/10 Free Throw % .818 .700 Rebounds 40 61 Off. Rebounds 2 17 Def. Rebounds 38 44 Blocks 7 8 Steals 15 6 Assists 14 28 Turnovers 17 20 Fouls 17 11

by **Filip** on Sun Sep 14, 2003 8:06 am

New stats, A real horror game, I was offocurs Dallas

Code: Select all: Entire Game Golden State Dallas Points 102 103 Bench Scoring 24 19 Field Goals 40/93 44/102 Field Goal % .430 .431 3 Point FG 5/28 6/30 3 Point % .179 .200 Free Throws 17/21 9/13 Free Throw % .810 .692 Rebounds 41 57 Off. Rebounds 5 20 Def. Rebounds 36 37 Blocks 2 14 Steals 17 9 Assists 23 31 Turnovers 18 26 Fouls 17 17

by **Filip** on Mon Sep 15, 2003 3:51 am

New stats from two new games, I was Atlanta and Memphis

Code: Select all: Entire Game Indiana Atlanta Points 107 108 Bench Scoring 14 27 Field Goals 39/87 42/105 Field Goal % .448 .400 3 Point FG 8/23 10/28 3 Point % .348 .357 Free Throws 21/26 14/26 Free Throw % .808 .538 Rebounds 39 65 Off. Rebounds 5 28 Def. Rebounds 34 37 Blocks 4 9 Steals 13 6 Assists 22 30 Turnovers 12 14 Fouls 24 18

Code: Select all: Entire Game Memphis Toronto Points 97 76 Bench Scoring 48 25 Field Goals 34/89 28/91 Field Goal % .382 .308 3 Point FG 13/28 3/24 3 Point % .464 .125 Free Throws 16/22 17/19 Free Throw % .727 .895 Rebounds 67 34 Off. Rebounds 25 5 Def. Rebounds 42 29 Blocks 17 7 Steals 3 10 Assists 19 19 Turnovers 18 7 Fouls 11 17

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