What is so horrible about the Franchise mode in Live '03?

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What is so horrible about the Franchise mode in Live '03?

Postby malice_05 on Fri Aug 01, 2003 7:24 am

how come you guys think it's so bad?
I haven't played it yet but I will soon and I hope I find out what you're talking about.
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Postby Power And Proud on Fri Aug 01, 2003 10:15 am

There are a few minor probs in the Franchise Mode, maybe some big ones, I don't really know coz I don't much attention to them.

But if you already haven't got Live 2003, you might as well wait for Live 2004.
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Postby Andrew on Fri Aug 01, 2003 6:39 pm

The main complaint about Franchise Mode concerns free agency. Too often top free agents refuse to sign (or re-sign) for large deals, choosing to sign with a random CPU team for the minimum.
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Postby bballer22 on Sat Aug 02, 2003 12:18 am

yeh that and too often top draft pickes come as seasoned pros with 98fg 88 inside 22 range etc.
its hard to find an all round player
and that bench players no mater how good they are dont ever avrage in double figures, thats only if u simulate.

plus another thing i noticed that the cpu generates monsters, u can get a guy in the second round who is 7'6 almost 300 pounds and is very very very wide body. prerry much can score 30 a game if ur playing
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Postby malice_05 on Sat Aug 02, 2003 1:24 am

I have live 2003 obviously. I've had it since November '02. I just never played the Franchise mode.
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Postby Vins15 on Sat Aug 02, 2003 6:26 pm

yeah...when my Jermaine O'neal wanted a big contract like 278,000 i didn't resign him...instead i wait until the season starts and sign him minimun for one year...so by the end of the franchise i like 8 rated 90 or higher players on my roster...
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Postby Andrew on Sun Aug 03, 2003 12:40 pm

I was able to put together a team like that, just fooling around simulating a Franchise with the Clippers.

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Postby Vins15 on Sun Aug 03, 2003 1:33 pm

excatly that's wut i am talking about itz so boring i got all 25 championships..the salary system definatly needs fixing...
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Postby jwin on Sun Aug 03, 2003 3:19 pm

a little late for 2003 but in my latest franchise i made all players contracts 7 yrs long, so that only rookie and already unsigned free agents contracts expired. i also turned off trades and made all the roster changes with a db editor. it's a bit of work, but it was the most competitive franchise so far. orlando won a title as a 6th seed, which is the first time i saw that happen in a long time, and no team has won over 66 games through six seasons.
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Postby Vins15 on Sun Aug 03, 2003 7:22 pm

wow sounds realistic...
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Postby Andrew on Sun Aug 03, 2003 8:01 pm

Indeed. I like that idea.
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Postby malice_05 on Mon Aug 04, 2003 8:29 am

how long did each franchise take u?
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Postby PoliceLineDoNotCross on Mon Aug 04, 2003 9:17 am

speaking of terrible franchise mode, i simulated the whole season with ea's default rosters and guess who won the mvp in their rookie season? caron butler :evil: i like caron butler and hes a good player but ea just messed this up. and frank williams of the knicks was defensive player of the year. this is very poor franchise mode and i just hope live 2004 can improve
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Postby Andrew on Mon Aug 04, 2003 7:22 pm

I've never seen that happen. Tim Duncan is usually a perennial MVP though.
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Postby Power And Proud on Mon Aug 04, 2003 8:05 pm

I've never seen that either. Although Tim Duncan has won both the MVP and Most Improved Awards in the same season.
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Postby Andrew on Mon Aug 04, 2003 8:42 pm

I've seen that one too. Hopefully Dstats and simulated performance are improved in Live 2004.
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Postby Mahoney_jr on Mon Aug 04, 2003 11:14 pm

It's difficult to find a balanced way between realistic management functions and a fast sportgame, in my opinion. I'm from germany and I know how many options and possibilities can be found in sportgames (germans like to simulate :roll: ). And I won't prefer features like training schedules, player motivation etc. But I would be happy about advanced trades (draft rights) and more realistic cpu-player-statistics (more playtime for good 6th-men).

The trade-system for itself is not that horrible to me. I know, that I can exploit it but I won't. I also know, that you can take a look into the next season to check out player progress and I know other cheats. But it's up to me to use them or to play a challenging franchise. And that's ok so far :)

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PS: Payton and Malone showed, that it's not very unreal to sign for minimum salary at the start of a season, by the way ;) I know, in our franchise modus it will happen too often but it can happen. Success >>> $$$ :shock:
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Postby Vins15 on Tue Aug 05, 2003 5:16 am

I didn't know y the f*ck did EA take the the three way trade option...i liked that option..y did they take it off?
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Postby Andrew on Tue Aug 05, 2003 9:58 am

A lot of people either didn't understand or didn't like the way three team trades were implemented in NBA Live 2001.
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Postby wez312 on Tue Aug 05, 2003 11:16 am

Yeah I dont think I Ever used the three team trade thing actually :roll:
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Postby Vins15 on Tue Aug 05, 2003 11:35 am

I do every time in a francise and almost every season..i'd say they should bring that feature back...
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Postby DrFunk on Wed Aug 06, 2003 3:49 am

with the NLSC rosters, Duncan will always win the MVP (not that I have a problem with that :lol:) but with default rosters, Caron Butler puts up some sick numbers in his rookie year, I think something around 30.7ppg and what not
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Postby Andrew on Wed Aug 06, 2003 1:30 pm

Strange, as I haven't changed Duncan's Dstats in the NLSC roster (yet). I did modify Caron Butler's though.
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Postby malice_05 on Thu Aug 07, 2003 1:10 am

I've had Iverson win it, as well as Webber, and Kobe.
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Postby jwin on Sat Aug 09, 2003 2:01 pm

has anyone tried the method i mentioned, if so what kind of results are you getting. the free agent issue still comes up when rookie contracts expire, but i now leave one roster space open, sign fa's rated from high to around 79,80, and trade them to teams that they will be starters on, unless that team has a rookie starting at that spot. still lots of work but the standings and playoff records are coming out nicely. only houston was over 60 wins with 66, the next was my sixers at 56 or 58, dont remember offhand.
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