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Postby xtopshotta04 on Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:12 am

whats up andrew , i got to ask you something, why is peja stojakovic field goal percentage so so high while he has not even shoot the three or any shot good for the last two year in the nba . i mean u are making this guy unstopable from 3 point range while in real life at least the past few years he really sucks, why not put bruce bowen , or even hamilton and tony parkers field goal up . tony has hit better than any guard in the league. bowen for the past two years is in the top 5 shooting the three ball, and hamilton in this year is number 1 hitting the three. dont you go by stats ,which are current when u make the rosters.
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Postby dada on Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:53 am

Peja is a very good shooter and if it wasnt for his poor mobility to get open he would be shooting a much higher percentage. Besides, 40% from 3s this year is higher than his career average plus he tends to take fading shots with a high degree of difficulty. He has been hitting 46% from the field since joining Indiana. I think most people stll know if you leave this guy open he will kill you. He is just about as deadly as anyone else in the league.

If the stats really bug you then you can always change it yourself. Its not like Andrew represents EA or something. :wink:
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Postby xtopshotta04 on Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:35 am

nba player if left alone will hitt most open shot if left open that is a proven fact. however a very high field goal percentage shows that regardless if you are open are even in very difficult circumstances shows that you have a very high probability to make that shot . come on peja stojakovic field goal percentage is 90 the best in the game except ray allen now why is that . is there any stats to back this up definately not .
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Postby dada on Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:49 am

I'm not sure about Ray Allen's ratings in the game but if you look at them both in real life you will see that Allen shoots just .008 better from 3s than Peja (since Indiana trade) and Peja shoots .007 better than Ray overall. We should argue about Ray Allen then also.
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Postby Anthony15 on Sun Jun 04, 2006 11:26 am

Just play good D and dont complain.
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Re: wats up with peja stojakovic

Postby Andrew on Sun Jun 04, 2006 11:42 am

xtopshotta04 wrote:whats up andrew , i got to ask you something, why is peja stojakovic field goal percentage so so high while he has not even shoot the three or any shot good for the last two year in the nba . i mean u are making this guy unstopable from 3 point range while in real life at least the past few years he really sucks, why not put bruce bowen , or even hamilton and tony parkers field goal up . tony has hit better than any guard in the league. bowen for the past two years is in the top 5 shooting the three ball, and hamilton in this year is number 1 hitting the three. dont you go by stats ,which are current when u make the rosters.


To a certain extent. I use them as a guide and adjust them according to what the game's sim engine requires and depending on the player (whether they are great jumpshooters, get more points off penetration, don't shoot a great percentage but still score a lot of points, etc).

I've explained the situation about Tony Parker before. He does shoot an excellent percentage from the field but he also scores a lot of his points in the paint off penetrations. His jumpshot itself is not the most deadly in the league despite what his field goal percentage might suggest.

Right now, I feel Peja's shooting ratings are a good balance between in-game and simulated performance which is what I'm aiming for with the ratings. Perhaps they could stand to come down a little bit but I strongly disagree that Peja "sucks" from threes when he's shooting a healthy 40% from downtown and made 162 threes this year (an average of 2 per game). I can review them though.
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Postby xtopshotta04 on Sun Jun 04, 2006 5:35 pm

i agree with what every body says to a certain extent, along with how you ajust the players to get a good balance for shooting . however if you look at the stats for this year peja has not been as consistent with his threes and is shots as he was on the kings back then with biby, doug christie and webber .yes he has detiriorated Immensely , he is not in is prime due alot of injuries and age . if you look at the stats right now and i will provide the link. (http://www.nba.com/statistics/player/3P ... 1&splitDD=) peja is looking like a mediocre shooter with many many players shooting better than him. he is just at .401 %

this link definately shows this
http://www.nba.com/statistics/player/3P ... 1&splitDD=


i mean even billips for detriot is higher making 184 of his threes shooting at .433% big differnce. i think it just a slight error making him so high . i mean he was not even in the three point contest who Nowitzki won. ray allen i can say i aggree with in the roster he SHOT"269" threes and .411% from three balls the best in the league living up to the his name not Peja Stojakovic for this year. i mean even look at kyle kover and many others on the stat sheet these jokers are burning peja this year yet he is the best shooter in the new roster. it just somthing i think you may have over looked. i can say you have been doing a good job on the rosters on a whole . and its not like i would not change it myself because when i play live with someone else and i edit the player to what i think is best suited they say i am cheating so i just want the person who created the roster to fix this . just a suggestion andrew
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Postby Andrew on Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:38 pm

Fair enough. As I said, I'll review it. Thanks for the feedback. (Y)
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Postby Chronz on Tue Jun 06, 2006 3:33 pm

If your tryin to say Bruce Bowen is as good a shooter from 3 as Peja is your have no credability. I meen how do you compare a guy who feeds off Tim Duncan and only avg 8ppg to A 3pt champ and 18ppg scorer. Peja is shooting is right on for a guy who has little athletiscm he must make up for it in other aspects of his game. Hes a shooter thus he has a high fg rating. And dont even start with Tony Parker hes not a great shooter by any meens.
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Postby franksta on Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:52 am

mr chronz all i have to say is look at the link with the stats that tells it all no need to really discuss this again his point was proven
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Postby Donatello on Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:58 am

franksta wrote:mr chronz all i have to say is look at the link with the stats that tells it all no need to really discuss this again his point was proven


Alright Mr. Just-registered-and-types-the-same-way-as-the-person-you're-defending. :?

Stojakovic is historically and fundamentally a great shooter. He's on a different team in a different situation (with a different point guard) now. OF course his shots are going to come differently, and with a period of adjustment.
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Postby franksta on Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:02 pm

when jordan came back to the wizards was he same jordan in with the bulls 95 and 1993 centainly not . tell me what happened to him was he the dominating guard he was before mr donatella!!!!!!!. NO HE WAS NOT. peja played his best years with the kings he is done for. dont try to blame him playing this bad on a different team because he was not doing anything for the kings before he was traded a true kings fan would no that . yes he was one of the best three point shooters but guess what not again HIS DAYS ARE DONE FOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby Chronz on Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:44 pm

franksta wrote:mr chronz all i have to say is look at the link with the stats that tells it all no need to really discuss this again his point was proven


Im lookin at the stats and I see that Bowen avg 8ppg so obviously he is only taking the very high percentage and available shots whereas Peja is carrying more of an offensive load. Again you have ZERO credability for comparing Bowen to Peja and tryin to pass it off as if hes a better shooter than Peja.
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Postby Chronz on Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:47 pm

franksta wrote:when jordan came back to the wizards was he same jordan in with the bulls 95 and 1993 centainly not . tell me what happened to him was he the dominating guard he was before mr donatella!!!!!!!. NO HE WAS NOT. peja played his best years with the kings he is done for. dont try to blame him playing this bad on a different team because he was not doing anything for the kings before he was traded a true kings fan would no that . yes he was one of the best three point shooters but guess what not again HIS DAYS ARE DONE FOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What about when MJ came back in 95 was he the same player he was in 93 before he left? No he had an adjustment period as well. If Peja is done then why is he still putting up 18 a game if you expected more then your overrating him. But he is what he is and thats a great shooter and definately alot better than Bowen.

PS Bowen only takes the corner 3 whereas Peja can pull up from anywhere.
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Postby franksta on Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:52 pm

YO MR DONOTTLEA OR WHATEVA YOUR NAME IS AND CHRONZ DONT COME ON ME ABOUT WHAT THE PERSON WHO WROTE ABOUT BOWEN . WE ALL KNOW BOWEN FEEDS OFF DUNCAN AND WE KNOW THAT PEJA SHOOTING SUCKED!!!!!!!!!! THIS YEAR SO JUST CALM DOWN HUMBLE YALL SELF. BECAUSE IF YOU WAS THE PERSON WHO CREATED THE ROSTER PATCHES NO ONE WOULD BE COMING TO THIS SITE BECAUSE YALL WOULD BASE YOUR RATING IN THE PAST NOT THE PRESENT ............... SO YO!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE FINISH THIS THREAD ITS OVER WITH MAN



OH AND LOOK WHERE PEJA AT # 24 :lol: SO MUCH FOR THE HISTORICALLY SOUND SHOOTER WITH GUYS LIKE A JASON TERRY NASH OVER HIM AND EVEN BEN GORDON FOR CHIRST SAKE . RAJA BELL :lol: PLEASE.
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Postby Chronz on Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:06 pm

franksta wrote:YO MR DONOTTLEA OR WHATEVA YOUR NAME IS AND CHRONZ DONT COME ON ME ABOUT WHAT THE PERSON WHO WROTE ABOUT BOWEN . WE ALL KNOW BOWEN FEEDS OFF DUNCAN AND WE KNOW THAT PEJA SHOOTING SUCKED THIS YEAR SO JUST CALM DOWN HUMBLE YALL SELF. BECAUSE IF YOU WAS THE PERSON WHO CREATED THE ROSTER PATCHES NO ONE WOULD BE COMING TO THIS SITE BECAUSE YALL WOULD BASE YOUR RATING IN THE PAST NOT THE PRESENT ............... SO YO!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE FINISH THIS THREAD ITS OVER WITH MAN


Your tellin me to calm down yet your the guy writing in all CAPS? You have no credability whatsoever and I got more basketball knowledge in my pinky than you do in your brain. Peja shot .404% from 3pt range with the pacers and hes only shot better than that once in his career and that was in 03-04 when he shot .433. Other than that year hes been at .380-.400 range so for you to say hes "LOSING IT" makes it seem like you got a grudge against him.

I repeat hes still the one of the best 3pt shooters in the league definately top 5. You look at 3pt% but you fail to look at the whole picture. You have to look at how many they take a game as well as how many they make and the type of defensive attention they get.

Guys like RIP and Bowen take few a game thus they make a higher % but that doesnt make RIP a dominant outside shooter, hes still improved on that facet of his game but only a moron would think hes abetter shooter than Peja.

Peja takes the 7th most 3pt attempts per game and only 1 guy shoots it at a higher % and thats Ray Allen. Sounds like good company to me.

Let me guess your probably gonna say Ray Allen is losing it too huh. Get outta here with your bs arguments man.
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Postby franksta on Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:17 am

excuse me chornz please correct me if i am wrong did you say he attempted what the 7 threes per game and the second most attempts in the game , making most of if shots and his best shooting year. you know what i am not even goin to use the originall nba stat sheet i am going to use ur non oficial stat sheet where you get your stat from to prove that what you say is wrong http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAC/2004.html in the year 2004 peja shot the 240 with 554 attemtps do you know the math there 43% way better than this year . lets see what his is fg% 665 made 1386 that equals to 47% from the field . still better than this year and it would show that in the game back then in nba live 05 he was the best shooter. this year in 06 by default he was about 88 fg 88 3pt and i dont think he deserved that do to the year he had in 05 . bad mistake by ea makers. :x then suddenly while loading the roster he has a 90 fg. ok lets break this down even you will understant if you say you have basket ball knowledge . peja played for sac for about six months lets go to ur stat sheet to see what he did. 71 threes 179 attempts do the math , naw it is 39%

what did he do in indianna well he did a little better there i have to say but not for him to get that high in the game


should a 39 persent three shooter for the year at that time donot derserve 88 who is shooting 40 percent from the field in sac while having 90% fg in the game nba live . naw i think not besides i did not say hamilton are bowen i said nash , terry , raja bell , and billips . do these guys desevre there ratings up. well yes certianly by the stats but i dought that will happen so to put peja this high while these other guys are above him this season would be silly showing you definately dont know what you are talking bout chornz ea will fix this in 07 not you and hopefully andrew in the new roster so humble your self . because you are dont have any say so in this. your evidence have been proven wrong dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh and notice the game ratings go by the season the player has not his previous year where he was good


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Postby Donatello on Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:49 am

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Postby franksta on Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:55 am

beside players like jason terry, nash, billips, ben gordan,even the rookie from last year kyle krover shoot the ball in the defenders face too like peja does and what are there stats. look them up on ur unofficial stat sheet chronz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

well it looks like they did better than him :D :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby franksta on Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:57 am

donatella you dont desevre to be a nlsc member because from what i see in most of the post you have you are kind of on the dumd side too
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Postby Donatello on Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:05 am

franksta wrote:donatella you dont desevre to be a nlsc member because from what i see in most of the post you have you are kind of on the dumd side too


Sorry that I'm so dumd. I think you should probably start acting more respectful of folks on this forum, typing excessive punctuation and cursing isn't exactly the way to get your point across OR make friends.

Sincerely,,,,,,

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Postby franksta on Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:13 am

i am sorry for saying this but you Ignited this first telling me to click on that link . i should now better but so should you besides you have the crediblity right a member of the site . all i did was just back up what the dude who started the post with the stats provided thats it. then you the member of the site and others ganged up on me its not my fault but i will still make apologies
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Postby Chronz on Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:26 am

franksta wrote:excuse me chornz please correct me if i am wrong did you say he attempted what the 7 threes per game and the second most attempts in the game , making most of if shots and his best shooting year. you know what i am not even goin to use the originall nba stat sheet i am going to use ur non oficial stat sheet where you get your stat from to prove that what you say is wrong http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAC/2004.html in the year 2004 peja shot the 240 with 554 attemtps do you know the math there 43% way better than this year . lets see what his is fg% 665 made 1386 that equals to 47% from the field . still better than this year and it would show that in the game back then in nba live 05 he was the best shooter. this year in 06 by default he was about 88 fg 88 3pt and i dont think he deserved that do to the year he had in 05 . bad mistake by ea makers. :x then suddenly while loading the roster he has a 90 fg. ok lets break this down even you will understant if you say you have basket ball knowledge . peja played for sac for about six months lets go to ur stat sheet to see what he did. 71 threes 179 attempts do the math , naw it is 39%

what did he do in indianna well he did a little better there i have to say but not for him to get that high in the game


should a 39 persent three shooter for the year at that time donot derserve 88 who is shooting 40 percent from the field in sac while having 90% fg in the game nba live . naw i think not besides i did not say hamilton are bowen i said nash , terry , raja bell , and billips . do these guys desevre there ratings up. well yes certianly by the stats but i dought that will happen so to put peja this high while these other guys are above him this season would be silly showing you definately dont know what you are talking bout chornz ea will fix this in 07 not you and hopefully andrew in the new roster so humble your self . because you are dont have any say so in this. your evidence have been proven wrong dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh and notice the game ratings go by the season the player has not his previous year where he was good


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I see you have reading problems as well, he attemtped the 7th most 3per game and only 1 person shot it at a higher percentage. Again you really need to do some research before you post.

Here Ill make it easier http://www.nba.com/statistics/player/3P ... ll%20Teams
if nba.com is unnofficial then your dumber than I thought.

You see where Peja is listed that big 7 by his name, that meens he attempted the 7th most 3 a game, and you see where they have the 3pt% number that shows he shot .401 and Ray Allen shot .412. If you have any more difficulty understanding please refer to this site.

http://dictionary.reference.com/

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Postby franksta on Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:21 am

you are so ignorant and has said in your other posts (not in this one that is )you claim you get ur stats from that stupid non oficial site dont come to me with your foolishness little boy go to the stats again and observe other players who have been more consistent than peja and i will not repeat names again , go to your stupid http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAC/2004.html site and keep quiet, and will not apologize to you either may be the others because you are the dumdest (superlative degree) person i have seen for a long time . notice its 3-Point FG Att. Per Game not overall fool and three point fg percent . go to this site little boy http://www.nba.com/statistics/player/3P ... ll%20Teams where is peja at tell me
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Postby xtopshotta04 on Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:42 am

damn you people are really serious aguing bout this i cant believe it . peja is a good shooter we know that all i was just saying was that is fg goal is too high and his 3 pt shooting not that he sucks . well i said that but i over exaggerated as andrew said.he said he will review it and thanked me for the feed back so yall aint got to ague. appreciate you franksta for backing me up but you aint got to ague to get your point across i have pointed out my point already and it will be reviewed so its finished people . not even andrew is answering anything about this post because its stupid arging about somthing so foollish.
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