PC gets XBOX360 Version of Live

[Steve [The Spiderman]]

http://gamespot.com/finder/findgames.html

NBA Live 06 PS2 10/18/2005
NBA Live 06 PSP 11/15/2005
NBA Live 06 XBOX 10/01/2005
NBA Live 06 PC Q4 2005
NBA Live 06 GC 10/18/2005
NBA Live 06 (X360) Q4 2005

Does that mean we will have the nice version with good graphics and gameplay!!!!

[T-Comm55]

hopefully the specs arent too high.

[Andrew]

It means both versions will probably have more up to date rosters.

[kp4life]

i hope the specs are very high

[cashless__]

That Q4 shit only means that the two games are to be released some time during Q4. Not that they run with the same engine or whatever!

[MaD_hAND1e]

Q4 2005= quarter 4 of 2005

[Rokas[LTU]]

i hope the specs are very high

Me too...

[Steve [The Spiderman]]

That Q4 shit only means that the two games are to be released some time during Q4. Not that they run with the same engine or whatever!

Yes, but I'm saying that because those are the only two games release later and X360 obviously is gonna have nicer stuff, that hopefully the PC version will get the X360 version of the game, not the current gen. console version.

[Andrew]

Better yet, the PC version wouldn't be a port of the consoles at all.

[Steve [The Spiderman]]

Yes, but I doubt that Andrew, it's been a port since '01 I believe. But maybe they'll change it!

[Bird123]

I think it will be the same port, then next year PC will get the next-gen versions.

Just speculation, but these next-gen consoles are gonna be more powerful than PC's for about 6 months, at least the XBOX360 because it's coming out first. PS3 will probably be coming out with the next-generation of video cards for PC, so computers will probably be on par by then. At any rate though, to play at max resolution, you'll probably have to have a high end video card from this generation (GeFORCE ULTRA 6800, Radeon 850 XT) or a first gen, or the ones coming out later this summer.

[Sauru]

all the dates on that list are Q4.

[cashless__]

Are we trying to set some kind of record here of how many times we can say the same shit over and over again? Based on the fact that it says Q4 on booth pc and xbox 360 don't mean jack!

[T-Comm55]

Q4

[Sauru]

I think it will be the same port, then next year PC will get the next-gen versions.

Just speculation, but these next-gen consoles are gonna be more powerful than PC's for about 6 months, at least the XBOX360 because it's coming out first. PS3 will probably be coming out with the next-generation of video cards for PC, so computers will probably be on par by then. At any rate though, to play at max resolution, you'll probably have to have a high end video card from this generation (GeFORCE ULTRA 6800, Radeon 850 XT) or a first gen, or the ones coming out later this summer.

just so you know, computers are superior to consoles. by the time the ps3 launches computers will already have out done it. ps3 will not be making video cards for the pc.

[Bird123]

I think it will be the same port, then next year PC will get the next-gen versions.

Just speculation, but these next-gen consoles are gonna be more powerful than PC's for about 6 months, at least the XBOX360 because it's coming out first. PS3 will probably be coming out with the next-generation of video cards for PC, so computers will probably be on par by then. At any rate though, to play at max resolution, you'll probably have to have a high end video card from this generation (GeFORCE ULTRA 6800, Radeon 850 XT) or a first gen, or the ones coming out later this summer.

just so you know, computers are superior to consoles. by the time the ps3 launches computers will already have out done it. ps3 will not be making video cards for the pc.

Computers are superior to current consoles, not next-gen consoles. And I doubt they will be superior by the time PS3 launches, on the CPU side PC's will still be far away from PS3 as PS3 will use the Cell processor, and PC's are just now getting 2-core processors. Xbox 360 will have a 3-core processor. On the GPU side, I think PS3 will be on par until maybe next Christmas, then the PC will take control again by early 2007.

You have to look at consoles differently, just because the specs don't necessarily line up with PC's doesn't mean it's significantly less powerful. The current xbox plays doom3 on it, and it's a 4 year old console, with an old Pentium 733 Mhz in it, with a GeForce 4 GPU. While the PC version is superior to the Xbox version, imagine trying to run Doom 3 on a 733 Mhz processor and a GeForce4.

Don't get me wrong, in the end computers always end up better than consoles for the simple fact that you can't upgrade them, and computer products continue to improve.

And I don't recall saying anything about PS3 making video cards for the PC.

[bishibashiboy]

When the new consoles are launched they WILL be more powerful than anything available on the PC market spec-wise, especially graphics wise. The Xbox360 is gonna be using a next gen Ati chip (R600 equivalent) while the newest Ati chip for the PC is gonna be an R520 chip which will be released in Q4 of 2005 as well.

The PS3 will have a graphics chip that is a similar but more enhanced version of the new G70 chip from nvidia, and will therefore be faster than whatever nvidia puts out for PCs as well for a short time.

Throw in what Bird123 said about the new core cell multi-cpus and the fact that the hardware is static and games are written directly to known specs for each system, even a diehard PC gaming fan would have to admit that for a window of about 1/4 of a year PC's will be behind consoles for once. Eventually PCs will definitely be faster again, but you'd probably need to spend $$$ on top of the line stuff.

Hopefully Live '06 on PC will be on par with the next gen consoles (whatever changes they may make, if any) rather than the current consoles. EA always screws PC gaming up the ass with garbage conversions each and every year.

[Sauru]

i got a question to the console fans out there, and i ask there seriously, not trying to be a smart ass.

with all the new added power to consoles the price has jumped a huge amount. the best arguement console players had over me and fellow pc gamers was the price. with the price of consoles coming close to that of a pc(if you build instead of buy), do you think its worth all the added power at the increased cost?

i notice that consoles are coming ever closer to being computers basicly. what i would like to see is the option to upgrade consoles. maybe give us a new vid card after a year or 2. something like that.

[Bird123]

i got a question to the console fans out there, and i ask there seriously, not trying to be a smart ass.

with all the new added power to consoles the price has jumped a huge amount. the best arguement console players had over me and fellow pc gamers was the price. with the price of consoles coming close to that of a pc(if you build instead of buy), do you think its worth all the added power at the increased cost?

i notice that consoles are coming ever closer to being computers basicly. what i would like to see is the option to upgrade consoles. maybe give us a new vid card after a year or 2. something like that.

I used to try to game on the best thing available at the time, but prices always kept me from keeping up. Most gamers simply just cannot by a $500 video card every year to play the games at break neck speeds on high quality. This is why consoles are attractive to people with not so deep pocketbooks.

Microsoft gaming president of whatever he is (J Allard) has said the price point for the Xbox 360 will be released around the same price point as the original Xbox and PS2 was ($299USD) check out this article

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05/27 ... 26611.html

Even though the PS3 will be a little bit more powerful than the Xbox360, I don't expect Sony to be that dumb to price the PS3 past $349USD.

A top of the line, THIS generation video card (Radeon X850XT) is near the $500USD range. The video card ALONE cost more than entire next-gen systems.

IMHO consoles will never be upgradable, simply because companies would rather ride out a consoles life (Like PS2 would have done if Microsoft had not pushed next-gen gaming so soon) rather than extending it's life. Most consoles make money on the years 3-5, because by then it's cheaper to manufacture as evident by the price drops we see later in a consoles life. By adding an upgrade such as a video card, which is newer technology going into an older machine:

1) You over-extend your developers, because like PC developers, console developers will have the new problem, of designing games to more than one spec because not all users will upgrade.

2) The company will have to put more money into developing new video cards at a time when you should be cleaning up on cheap manufacturing costs. The console prices probably will not drop, or the video cards will be very expensive.

[Num33Baller]

I think it will be the same port, then next year PC will get the next-gen versions.

Just speculation, but these next-gen consoles are gonna be more powerful than PC's for about 6 months, at least the XBOX360 because it's coming out first. PS3 will probably be coming out with the next-generation of video cards for PC, so computers will probably be on par by then. At any rate though, to play at max resolution, you'll probably have to have a high end video card from this generation (GeFORCE ULTRA 6800, Radeon 850 XT) or a first gen, or the ones coming out later this summer.

just so you know, computers are superior to consoles. by the time the ps3 launches computers will already have out done it. ps3 will not be making video cards for the pc.

Computers are superior to current consoles, not next-gen consoles. And I doubt they will be superior by the time PS3 launches, on the CPU side PC's will still be far away from PS3 as PS3 will use the Cell processor, and PC's are just now getting 2-core processors. Xbox 360 will have a 3-core processor. On the GPU side, I think PS3 will be on par until maybe next Christmas, then the PC will take control again by early 2007.

You have to look at consoles differently, just because the specs don't necessarily line up with PC's doesn't mean it's significantly less powerful. The current xbox plays doom3 on it, and it's a 4 year old console, with an old Pentium 733 Mhz in it, with a GeForce 4 GPU. While the PC version is superior to the Xbox version, imagine trying to run Doom 3 on a 733 Mhz processor and a GeForce4.

Don't get me wrong, in the end computers always end up better than consoles for the simple fact that you can't upgrade them, and computer products continue to improve.

And I don't recall saying anything about PS3 making video cards for the PC.

I think someone is forgetting the fact that the Intel P5 (64 bit chip), is coming out soon... And IIRC the PS3 is a 32bit chip.... Meaning a 2.4ghz P5 would outperform a 4.8 ghz 32 bit chip

[Bird123]

I think it will be the same port, then next year PC will get the next-gen versions.

Just speculation, but these next-gen consoles are gonna be more powerful than PC's for about 6 months, at least the XBOX360 because it's coming out first. PS3 will probably be coming out with the next-generation of video cards for PC, so computers will probably be on par by then. At any rate though, to play at max resolution, you'll probably have to have a high end video card from this generation (GeFORCE ULTRA 6800, Radeon 850 XT) or a first gen, or the ones coming out later this summer.

just so you know, computers are superior to consoles. by the time the ps3 launches computers will already have out done it. ps3 will not be making video cards for the pc.

Computers are superior to current consoles, not next-gen consoles. And I doubt they will be superior by the time PS3 launches, on the CPU side PC's will still be far away from PS3 as PS3 will use the Cell processor, and PC's are just now getting 2-core processors. Xbox 360 will have a 3-core processor. On the GPU side, I think PS3 will be on par until maybe next Christmas, then the PC will take control again by early 2007.

You have to look at consoles differently, just because the specs don't necessarily line up with PC's doesn't mean it's significantly less powerful. The current xbox plays doom3 on it, and it's a 4 year old console, with an old Pentium 733 Mhz in it, with a GeForce 4 GPU. While the PC version is superior to the Xbox version, imagine trying to run Doom 3 on a 733 Mhz processor and a GeForce4.

Don't get me wrong, in the end computers always end up better than consoles for the simple fact that you can't upgrade them, and computer products continue to improve.

And I don't recall saying anything about PS3 making video cards for the PC.

I think someone is forgetting the fact that the Intel P5 (64 bit chip), is coming out soon... And IIRC the PS3 is a 32bit chip.... Meaning a 2.4ghz P5 would outperform a 4.8 ghz 32 bit chip

We already have 64-bit CPUs, AMDs Athlon 64 line. Plus the new Intel CPU will still only max out at two cores at most for a while and it's made for general processing.

The cell is special architecture which simulates 7 cores, and the one in the PS3 is made for gaming. BTW, Cell in PS3 is going to run at 3.2 Mhz, but speed is not important this time around anyway, it's going to be how much processing can be done in the shortest amount of time. That's why you'll see lower processor speeds, but better performance on PCs, but not necessarily any better than cell, at least not right away.

Look at it like this. A 15 passenger bus has to take 30 people to the airport so it takes 15, drops them off and comes back for the other 15 (Dual Core)

Now imagine having 6 cars that can hold five people each, it only takes one trip, right?