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Postby dc1314 on Mon Jan 27, 2003 12:24 pm

I know this sounds like a wish item but Why dont a rule with 5 seconds with the ball while someone is on you.
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Postby rebel on Tue Jan 28, 2003 4:13 am

Because the NBA doesn't have that rule.
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Postby Nick on Tue Jan 28, 2003 11:08 am

You wrote:This is important

No it isn't. :?
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Postby bishibashiboy on Tue Jan 28, 2003 11:37 am

Actually..why don't they have that 5 second rule for offensive players posting up??..that would certainly stop me from just backing in with shaq and dunking :roll:
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Postby DK on Tue Jan 28, 2003 12:23 pm

bishibashiboy wrote:Actually..why don't they have that 5 second rule for offensive players posting up??..that would certainly stop me from just backing in with shaq and dunking :roll:

It's called "3 In the Key", look at the game's rules menu before you post.
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Postby D1X1NG on Tue Jan 28, 2003 7:03 pm

DK wrote:
bishibashiboy wrote:Actually..why don't they have that 5 second rule for offensive players posting up??..that would certainly stop me from just backing in with shaq and dunking :roll:

It's called "3 In the Key", look at the game's rules menu before you post.


actually there is such a rule dk... that states you cant post up for more then 5 seconds... I have no idea what it is called... but it rarely happens in the nba when they stop someone for that... mainly because all the big players are getting double teamed and are passing, I aint sure if they are passing because they are double teamed or because of the rule.
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Postby nypg on Tue Jan 28, 2003 11:16 pm

D1X1NG wrote:
DK wrote:
bishibashiboy wrote:Actually..why don't they have that 5 second rule for offensive players posting up??..that would certainly stop me from just backing in with shaq and dunking :roll:

It's called "3 In the Key", look at the game's rules menu before you post.


actually there is such a rule dk... that states you cant post up for more then 5 seconds... I have no idea what it is called... but it rarely happens in the nba when they stop someone for that... mainly because all the big players are getting double teamed and are passing, I aint sure if they are passing because they are double teamed or because of the rule.




Yes, there is such a rule. But it is very rarely called (if it ever was called already)...

Section XVI-Five-Second Back-to-the-Basket Violation
An offensive player in his frontcourt below the free throw line extended shall not be permitted to dribble with his back or side to the basket for more than five seconds.
The count ends when (1) the player picks up the ball, (2) dribbles above the free throw line extended or (3) a defensive player deflects the ball away.
PENALTY: Loss of ball. The ball is awarded to the opposing team out-of-bounds on the nearest sideline at the free throw line extended.


http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_10.ht ... rticleList





In other leagues (but not yet in the nba, as far as i know), there is this other rule... "ball hogging". It is aimed at discouraging teams on using too much one-on-one plays by penalizing a player who "hogs" or holds the ball for more than 5 seconds.
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Postby DK on Wed Jan 29, 2003 6:02 am

D1X1NG wrote:
DK wrote:
bishibashiboy wrote:Actually..why don't they have that 5 second rule for offensive players posting up??..that would certainly stop me from just backing in with shaq and dunking :roll:

It's called "3 In the Key", look at the game's rules menu before you post.


actually there is such a rule dk... that states you cant post up for more then 5 seconds... I have no idea what it is called... but it rarely happens in the nba when they stop someone for that... mainly because all the big players are getting double teamed and are passing, I aint sure if they are passing because they are double teamed or because of the rule.

Well I have never seen it caled and it is true for Live too, there is no way someone can post up for 5 sec without losing the ball in Live so I don't see what the point is.
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No

Postby dc1314 on Wed Jan 29, 2003 2:19 pm

I am talking about the pg can not be at the top of the key while a man is on him for more than 5 secs that should be a add=on for next year
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Postby jhowlett on Wed Jan 29, 2003 2:52 pm

Actually ball hogging rule is present in the NBA. It's just that players are often too smart nowadays and they avoid it. It usually happens in the NBA when a player is double teamed and caught off guard and stopped and could not dribble anymore and is hesistant to pass, in which case he hogs the ball for 5 secs and the ref whistles. (I saw it happen to Reggie Miller once)
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Re: No

Postby benji on Thu Jan 30, 2003 12:07 am

dc1314 wrote:I am talking about the pg can not be at the top of the key while a man is on him for more than 5 secs that should be a add=on for next year

I think that's a NCAA rule...
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Re: No

Postby nypg on Thu Jan 30, 2003 10:48 am

Ben wrote:
dc1314 wrote:I am talking about the pg can not be at the top of the key while a man is on him for more than 5 secs that should be a add=on for next year

I think that's a NCAA rule...



Actually, it's a FIBA rule, so most international/amateur leagues apply it. If you are closely guarded, you cannot hold the ball for more than 5 seconds (you will have to either pass, shoot, or dribble the ball so as not to get penalized).

Art. 40. Closely Guarded Player
A closely guarded player (within one normal step) who is holding the ball shall pass, shoot, roll or dribble the ball within five (5) seconds. An infraction of this article is a violation.


http://216.239.33.100/search?q=cache:YU ... n&ie=UTF-8



The NCAA, they have a stricter version of this rule. Aside from holding the ball, you also cannot DRIBBLE the ball for more than 5 seconds while being closely defended. This is defenitely more difficult because you have no other option but to give up the ball (either to pass or to shoot).

But I'm not sure if it is being applied in the NBA already. I don't think it is (not yet, anyway).

http://www.cassiel.net/English/Sports/rules.htm
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Postby bishibashiboy on Thu Jan 30, 2003 3:09 pm

DK wrote:It's called "3 In the Key", look at the game's rules menu before you post.

hmmmmmmm....i don't know if it was intended..but that sounded kind of cocky DK

i haven't gone senile yet...i know what i'm talking a/b

DK wrote:Well I have never seen it caled and it is true for Live too, there is no way someone can post up for 5 sec without losing the ball in Live so I don't see what the point is.


well i have seen it called in the NBA..although i agree..very rarely and hesitantly

and it IS possible to back your way in for longer than 5 seconds in Live 2003..not often but still possible and should still be in the game just for the sake of having complete rules.
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