Playing against CPU Warriors

[CasE]

Does anyone find playing against CPU Warriors or some other fast paced teams extremelly frustrating? What's up with that transition offense? They are just pulling up 80% of offense within 5 seconds of the shot clock. Here below is the example. Please dont mind my offense. With what i have been doing i had 9 shot attempts with 1:05 time of possesion, they had 10 shots (opening attack) and 1:17 time possesion lol.

Sliders are actually 40 - take inside shots, 70 - take close shots, 60 - take mid range, 45 - take 3 point shots.. Or are tendencies doing the damage. I will test with pull up in transition on 0 for all Warriors starting unit and see what happens. At the moment it just feels stupid. No matter what I do on defense they are playing like there is 5 seconds shot clock violation after defensive rebound. Your thoughts?

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EDIT: Just uploaded video, it should be 1080p in a few minutes.

[Dee4Three]

This is just my opinion.

First, nice camera view.

Second, like I stated in another thread. 50-50 sliders for CPU and USER seem to work the best (For me atleast). And the only time where it's really 5 seconds or less offense for the opposing team, is if I AM USING the defender and I am lost or not on my man (Or close to him). Because what I have noticed about 2k17 is: If you are not up on your guy and he is a decent or above average shooter, he will fire. Like on the video, Long rebounds created fastbreak opportunities, and with you being out of place with CP3 Curry was wide open on the other end, and if they push the ball up the floor (Like in real life), and Curry is open, he will fire (Like in real life). It's really about being smart on offense and taking good shots, and trying to avoid long rebound/fastbreak opportunities.

If you are not playing sound offense AND defense in this game, you get burned. Lets say instead of that launch with CP3, you attacked the basket and missed a short one, or took a shot and made it. Your defense would be back and coverage would be there, so the 5 seconds or less wouldn't happen.

For teams like GS, I sometimes use NO THREES so when in the halfcourt offense, my team is guarding the 3PT Line better.

Hopefully some of this helps.

BTW, I know you wouldn't normally take those shots with Chris Paul... haha.

[JWL3]

Forgetting the Warriors for a second,

Is anyone able to dominate the cpu this year in MyCareer on All star or HOF level? I find it really difficult to score against their D, whether it's one on one or passing. Half my gambled passes are stolen. The other half of my assists are basic passes to a teammate who chucks up a well guarded shot that somehow goes in. My guy is rated 87 now and almost maxed out on shooting. I can't seem to dominate the league like in year's past. Averaging 8 pts, 8 assists, 4 rebounds, 3 steals, 4 turnovers per game on 5 min quarters. I remember I used to drop 100 pts, 18 assists, 15 rebounds in 12 min quarters in 2k15.

[Uncle Drew]

If anyone beats CPU GS, please post results. I've played them like 6 times, and lost all of them by at least 15.

[jwin]

If anyone beats CPU GS, please post results. I've played them like 6 times, and lost all of them by at least 15.

i beat them 115-111 in myleague, mostly with post spins using okafor, embiid, saric and simmons. with a decent post player that move is pretty much unstoppable

[Book_Gazette]

The Warriors are a really scary team, like a good team, there are flaws.

1. Lack of Frontcourt development, your first gonna say, WTF Book, Draymond Green is insanely good, but really he isn't. Draymond Green is a great rebounder but the only issue is that he struggles against players over 240lbs, especially LeBron, and is overexpressive. You can stop him by pinning thicker and taller players. The Centers are literally what I'm going after, Zaza is old and out of his prime, Javale McGee is average (DUH Shaqtin' a Fool ) and the bench for the Center you still have Varejao and a developing rookie McCaw.
2. Confidence. Warriors have too much of this. Get them shooting threes (except the big 3) and make sure they are tightly contested.
3. Fast paced offense. The Warriors are built on this, but this is something that the Warriors defense can't do. If you drive the paint, hit inside jumpers, the Warriors defense is rather lazy against faster players, especially the Cavaliers.

Find a team that can do all these,

Ex
Philadelphia- Ben Simmons, Joel Embiid, Jahlil Okafor, Nerlens Noel, and Dario Saric, those guys can destroy Draymond Green and Zaza, tall and skillful as I say
At the Guard positions, they are actually pretty well developed within talent, but these guys are defensive and can shoot, a good counter for GS
LA Lakers-Developed in all five positions, Yi and Mozgov, Randle and Nance Jr, rookie Brandon Ingram and Swaggy P, Clarkson, Williams, and Russell all have great skill inside and out. With new coaching the Warriors are still going to regret that loss a months ago.
Cavaliers- Duh obviously, you made them choke 3-1 in the Finals. With a solid defense fast paced offense, and LeBron this is definitely one of their scares

[Patr1ck]

Does anyone find playing against CPU Warriors or some other fast paced teams extremelly frustrating? What's up with that transition offense? They are just pulling up 80% of offense within 5 seconds of the shot clock. Here below is the example. Please dont mind my offense. With what i have been doing i had 9 shot attempts with 1:05 time of possesion, they had 10 shots (opening attack) and 1:17 time possesion lol.

Sliders are actually 40 - take inside shots, 70 - take close shots, 60 - take mid range, 45 - take 3 point shots.. Or are tendencies doing the damage. I will test with pull up in transition on 0 for all Warriors starting unit and see what happens. At the moment it just feels stupid. No matter what I do on defense they are playing like there is 5 seconds shot clock violation after defensive rebound. Your thoughts?

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EDIT: Just uploaded video, it should be 1080p in a few minutes.

Global tendencies are very powerful and need to be balanced. They not only affect how quickly shots are taken, but the passing as well. You might see players shooting midrange shots at 60 who shouldn't be taking those shots. I suggest not going lower than 45 or higher than 55 on any of those tendency ratings for taking shots. I think I have it at 50 close, 51 inside, 52 mid-range, 51 3-point, 52 attack basket, 51 look to post. The teams also run a quicker offense with earlier shots when you increase these settings, but they also make some quicker passes.

I just watched the video. Not only does your "offense" put them right into attack mode after those long defensive rebounds but you are getting caught out of position on defense and the tendencies may just be helping the cpu put up shots quicker.

[ThePointForward]

Because what I have noticed about 2k17 is: If you are not up on your guy and he is a decent or above average shooter, he will fire.

Hell, if you leave me wide open in Sunday pickup game in real life, I'll shoot the ball too. And I'm probably gonna make the shot, whether it's from corner three or top of the key.

I really like this tendency, because leaving real NBA players open means they will punish you for it more often than not (unless you leave Dwight Howard on three point line etc).

[diamenz]

the three point pull up coding hurts the legend teams even more. 3 point shooting was just starting to take off in the nineties, but the way some of these players jack them up is just unreal.

[Dee4Three]

Because what I have noticed about 2k17 is: If you are not up on your guy and he is a decent or above average shooter, he will fire.

Hell, if you leave me wide open in Sunday pickup game in real life, I'll shoot the ball too. And I'm probably gonna make the shot, whether it's from corner three or top of the key.

I really like this tendency, because leaving real NBA players open means they will punish you for it more often than not (unless you leave Dwight Howard on three point line etc).

Yup, exactly. Same here. I love that touch in the game, it makes me really pay attention on defense. I have to make sure I am up on the shooters and not giving them to much space.

[Uncle Drew]

Because what I have noticed about 2k17 is: If you are not up on your guy and he is a decent or above average shooter, he will fire.

Hell, if you leave me wide open in Sunday pickup game in real life, I'll shoot the ball too. And I'm probably gonna make the shot, whether it's from corner three or top of the key.

I really like this tendency, because leaving real NBA players open means they will punish you for it more often than not (unless you leave Dwight Howard on three point line etc).

Yup, exactly. Same here. I love that touch in the game, it makes me really pay attention on defense. I have to make sure I am up on the shooters and not giving them to much space.

From my experience, playing good D doesn't really matter, because they are going to make the shot 99% of the time. Numerous times, the CPU swings the ball from side to side, and a shooter comes around a screen for a open 3 or mid-range jumper. Something I believe that's "hard coded" in the game. You can't defend that play period, because they are going to make the shot, and it really holds true if it's the Warriors, because of all the great shot makers they have. It's not realistic, to make the insane amount of open or contested shots, that the CPU attempts.

[dyopopoy]

If anyone beats CPU GS, please post results. I've played them like 6 times, and lost all of them by at least 15.

i beat them 115-111 in myleague, mostly with post spins using okafor, embiid, saric and simmons. with a decent post player that move is pretty much unstoppable

wait, post ups?? I totally agree with post ups defeating team in 2K16. not in 2k17, because post defenders now in 2K17 are unbelievably good. even slowest centers can defend post spins of griffin or drummond. how do you do that?

[jwin]

If anyone beats CPU GS, please post results. I've played them like 6 times, and lost all of them by at least 15.

i beat them 115-111 in myleague, mostly with post spins using okafor, embiid, saric and simmons. with a decent post player that move is pretty much unstoppable

wait, post ups?? I totally agree with post ups defeating team in 2K16. not in 2k17, because post defenders now in 2K17 are unbelievably good. even slowest centers can defend post spins of griffin or drummond. how do you do that?

i just throw the entry pass, back in towards the basket a couple of times, then spin in the opposite direction towards the hoop and usually get a clear lane to the basket and an easy dunk. sometimes though the spin will only turn the player around but if i back down again and then do the spin move it usually works especially with those four players, with richaun holmes it doesn't work as well

[dyopopoy]

If anyone beats CPU GS, please post results. I've played them like 6 times, and lost all of them by at least 15.

i beat them 115-111 in myleague, mostly with post spins using okafor, embiid, saric and simmons. with a decent post player that move is pretty much unstoppable

wait, post ups?? I totally agree with post ups defeating team in 2K16. not in 2k17, because post defenders now in 2K17 are unbelievably good. even slowest centers can defend post spins of griffin or drummond. how do you do that?

i just throw the entry pass, back in towards the basket a couple of times, then spin in the opposite direction towards the hoop and usually get a clear lane to the basket and an easy dunk. sometimes though the spin will only turn the player around but if i back down again and then do the spin move it usually works especially with those four players, with richaun holmes it doesn't work as well

that's the exact move i was doing in 2k16! but now in 2k17 , i can't do it really. HoF level. the defenders will just move to where you're spinning.

[dyopopoy]

If anyone beats CPU GS, please post results. I've played them like 6 times, and lost all of them by at least 15.

i beat them 115-111 in myleague, mostly with post spins using okafor, embiid, saric and simmons. with a decent post player that move is pretty much unstoppable

wait, post ups?? I totally agree with post ups defeating team in 2K16. not in 2k17, because post defenders now in 2K17 are unbelievably good. even slowest centers can defend post spins of griffin or drummond. how do you do that?

i just throw the entry pass, back in towards the basket a couple of times, then spin in the opposite direction towards the hoop and usually get a clear lane to the basket and an easy dunk. sometimes though the spin will only turn the player around but if i back down again and then do the spin move it usually works especially with those four players, with richaun holmes it doesn't work as well

that's the exact move i was doing in 2k16! but now in 2k17 , i can't do it really. HoF level. the defenders will just move to where you're spinning.

and if it's not too much of a hassle, can you post a video of you doing that? hahahaha. i just cant really believe that 'that move' works for you, because I know I can do that.

[jwin]

If anyone beats CPU GS, please post results. I've played them like 6 times, and lost all of them by at least 15.

i beat them 115-111 in myleague, mostly with post spins using okafor, embiid, saric and simmons. with a decent post player that move is pretty much unstoppable

wait, post ups?? I totally agree with post ups defeating team in 2K16. not in 2k17, because post defenders now in 2K17 are unbelievably good. even slowest centers can defend post spins of griffin or drummond. how do you do that?

i just throw the entry pass, back in towards the basket a couple of times, then spin in the opposite direction towards the hoop and usually get a clear lane to the basket and an easy dunk. sometimes though the spin will only turn the player around but if i back down again and then do the spin move it usually works especially with those four players, with richaun holmes it doesn't work as well

that's the exact move i was doing in 2k16! but now in 2k17 , i can't do it really. HoF level. the defenders will just move to where you're spinning.

and if it's not too much of a hassle, can you post a video of you doing that? hahahaha. i just cant really believe that 'that move' works for you, because I know I can do that.

can i save the replay ingame or what recording software should i use?

[Dee4Three]

If anyone beats CPU GS, please post results. I've played them like 6 times, and lost all of them by at least 15.

i beat them 115-111 in myleague, mostly with post spins using okafor, embiid, saric and simmons. with a decent post player that move is pretty much unstoppable

wait, post ups?? I totally agree with post ups defeating team in 2K16. not in 2k17, because post defenders now in 2K17 are unbelievably good. even slowest centers can defend post spins of griffin or drummond. how do you do that?

i just throw the entry pass, back in towards the basket a couple of times, then spin in the opposite direction towards the hoop and usually get a clear lane to the basket and an easy dunk. sometimes though the spin will only turn the player around but if i back down again and then do the spin move it usually works especially with those four players, with richaun holmes it doesn't work as well

that's the exact move i was doing in 2k16! but now in 2k17 , i can't do it really. HoF level. the defenders will just move to where you're spinning.

and if it's not too much of a hassle, can you post a video of you doing that? hahahaha. i just cant really believe that 'that move' works for you, because I know I can do that.

can i save the replay ingame or what recording software should i use?

AMD GAMING EVOLVED if you have an AMD card. That's what I use

[jwin]

If anyone beats CPU GS, please post results. I've played them like 6 times, and lost all of them by at least 15.

i beat them 115-111 in myleague, mostly with post spins using okafor, embiid, saric and simmons. with a decent post player that move is pretty much unstoppable

wait, post ups?? I totally agree with post ups defeating team in 2K16. not in 2k17, because post defenders now in 2K17 are unbelievably good. even slowest centers can defend post spins of griffin or drummond. how do you do that?

i just throw the entry pass, back in towards the basket a couple of times, then spin in the opposite direction towards the hoop and usually get a clear lane to the basket and an easy dunk. sometimes though the spin will only turn the player around but if i back down again and then do the spin move it usually works especially with those four players, with richaun holmes it doesn't work as well

that's the exact move i was doing in 2k16! but now in 2k17 , i can't do it really. HoF level. the defenders will just move to where you're spinning.

and if it's not too much of a hassle, can you post a video of you doing that? hahahaha. i just cant really believe that 'that move' works for you, because I know I can do that.

can i save the replay ingame or what recording software should i use?

AMD GAMING EVOLVED if you have an AMD card. That's what I use[/quote
]try this link
http://plays.tv/video/58056c9bb5b476f8cb/post-spin-2

[ThePointForward]

For recording OBS Studio is probably the best choice in general.

[Dee4Three]

For recording OBS Studio is probably the best choice in general.

Just curious. I wont be switching, but just asking for others.

Can OBS record in the past? For example, I make my highlight reels by saving the replay AFTER it already happens. That way I don't have to record the whole game, AMD GAMING EVOLVED allows me to do that. I hit a key on my keyboard and it saves the previous 10 seconds (or 5, 15, 20,25 etc). Or, I also have the option to Manually record the whole time, or start and stop whenever I want. It gives me the flexibility I need.

I also don't have frame drops regardless of how I record.

[Patr1ck]

Yes, it's called a replay buffer and you can set how many seconds you want in obs.

[Dee4Three]

Yes, it's called a replay buffer and you can set how many seconds you want in obs.

Nice

[ThePointForward]

Yeah, it's pretty well known concept.

The advantage of OBS is that it has very detailed settings (or you can just run with basic ones).

Also boasts pretty good streaming integration and it's open-source.

[Patr1ck]

It should also be able to take advantage of any hardware encoders you have on your graphics card, wether it be Nvidia or AMD. That way you don't lose too many frames.

[Dee4Three]

Yeah, it's pretty well known concept.

The advantage of OBS is that it has very detailed settings (or you can just run with basic ones).

Also boasts pretty good streaming integration and it's open-source.

Im not sure I would say it's a well known concept (around here). We didn't even have a video thread for NBA 2K16, video threads are hardly used around here. I started the video thread in hopes people would start posting videos (Which we have about 19-20, getting there). I've had people PM me asking me what I use to make videos, so it's helpful to know about other options.

I think MAKING the videos is intimidating to a lot of people, and they think it requires more work than it actual does. With the OBS studio and AMD Gaming Evolved (If they have AMD), the replay buffers for both make it easy to snap 10 seconds of highlights, and than you can just chain those together to have a reel.

I actually purchased Movavi Video Suite, and that's what I use for my tutorial videos and for videos in which I need to edit/split etc etc.

I'd like to see more videos in the video section.