Chicago Bulls Thread

[shadowgrin]

Kobe neither Westbrook weren't 100% enough to come back. Being cleared to play does not mean it's an advise for you to go ahead and play. Don't be confused. Coming back early was obviously moronic decisions as the result depicted.

What info do you have that Kobe and Westbrook ignored their doctors' advise...you have no info about them...then you're no different from the stupid media that you're ranting about for engaging in the the idiocy of making up assumptions with no basis.

And don't derail off from my point that it's media that's eagerly trying to vilify Rose and make assinine hero out of Kobe's stupid attempt to comeback early (which ofc failed). What Rose's done may not have been the best course of action(depending on perspective) but at least it was an understandable one. It's hilarious how you always suck Kobe's cock though. It's amazing.

When did I say what Kobe and Wetbrook did was smart or idiotic?

As for Kobe and Westbrook the info I know aren't yet sufficient for me to call them a moron or doing the right thing in the long run.

What info do you have that Kobe and Westbrook ignored their doctors' advise...you have no info about them...then you're no different from the stupid media that you're ranting about for engaging in the the idiocy of making up assumptions with no basis.

Try providing me with evidence that Rose was 100% healthy enough to come back. And how was playing against LBJ in the playoffs all of sudden was the best course for the rehab? You can't. It's just your opinion and wankfest.

May 16, 2012
"Strength-wise, he's less likely to injure that knee again," said team physician Brian Cole, who performed the surgery. "If you look at the reasons athletes do or do not get back to their pre-injury level of play, there's no question the psychological point is part of it. But because we know that, that's something we focus on."

Cole set Rose's return to action at anywhere from eight to 12 months and slightly longer before he's able to perform at a pre-injury level, but the key talking point in the press conference at the Rush University Medical Center Orthopedic building was the mental aspect that Rose must now go through after this procedure

June 21, 2012
Chicago Bulls guard Derrick Rose is "ahead of schedule" in the rehabilitation process on his torn left ACL, according to Dr. Brian Cole, who performed surgery on the former MVP last month.

March 9, 2013
Derrick Rose's doctor has cleared the Chicago Bulls' star to play, a team source said, but his long-awaited return to the lineup won't occur until he can confidently dunk off his left foot, Rose has told the team.

"He's been cleared to do everything that there is, but before he makes the final step, everyone has to get together and sign off and that hasn't happened yet," Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau said before the game.

The source said the team has been assured by Rose's doctor that there is no more chance of the former MVP getting injured upon his return than anyone else and that the doctor told the Bulls that physically "he can play now." Rose is now dealing with the psychological side of trusting his body.

Rose has taken part in 5-on-5 scrimmages, beginning on Feb. 18.

The importance of the mental aspect of return to play after an ACL surgery should not be underestimated. Adrian Peterson was able to return to the Minnesota Vikings seven months after ACL surgery and almost broke the single-season rushing record. On the other hand, Derrick Rose was unable to return to competitive basketball even one full year after his ACL surgery.

Both of these athletes are young, extremely athletic, and have incredible work ethics. They both had enough time to allow for graft healing and hundreds of hours of physical therapy. Then why the difference in their ability to return to play? When Derrick Rose was recently asked why he hasn’t returned, he said that he ‘didn’t feel confident.’

This feeling of confidence isn’t anything that you can teach or get from more hours in the rehab gym. It’s something that is individual-dependent and depends on many factors. Some athletes regain their confidence quicker than others. Regardless of how long it takes, the athlete will not be able to return to their sport if they don’t have the confidence to do so.

Doctors will tell you that once a player no longer is in danger of re-injury, only time and work in live competition can get a player from 70 or 80 percent to 90, on up to 100.

Like the others, Rose would return with a minutes limit, gradually increasing his workload and almost necessarily being less than the player he was when he got hurt.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/sports/c ... 89445.html
http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/ ... ng-surgeon
http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/ ... ource-says
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/spor ... rehab.html
http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2013/02/2 ... ck-motives

What info do you have...?

if you only know how to read

hopeless to expect some semblance of logic from you because you're just a rabbit-hole of stupidity that goes deeper and deeper.

What info do you have...?

[NovU]

You are one piece of work.



Referring to my very initial post...

Let Rose come back whenever he thinks he's ready. Media and idiots will continue to make up retarded reasons like he's not competitor, he's a coward, silly stuff like that once again this year.

What do you have against this?

So you believe he was 100% even when himself said that he wasn't? I told you. It's the media wankfest that's influenced you to be a wanker. Why do you insist it was the best thing in the world for him to get back on the court and play against LBJ and his own will? This is the problem with your ideology from being a fanatical.

Lastly...

it's media that's eagerly trying to vilify Rose and make assinine hero out of Kobe's stupid attempt to comeback early (which ofc failed). What Rose's done may not have been the best course of action(depending on perspective) but at least it was an understandable one. It's hilarious how you always suck Kobe's cock though. It's amazing.

You actually fit the description quite well. You're that asswipe(just not media). No wonder you were upset from my initial post which had pretty much nothing to do with point you're trying to get across.

[Mandich]

[shadowgrin]

Let Rose come back whenever he thinks he's ready. Media and idiots will continue to make up retarded reasons like he's not competitor, he's a coward, silly stuff like that once again this year.

What do you have against this?

None.
It's your stupid comparisons and assumptions that make no sense...

continue to rack up their fantasy stories how Rose's a coward and Kobe/Westbrook are heroes. I say Rose's unfortunate but smart, while other two dumb and reckless

So you believe he was 100% even when himself said that he wasn't? I told you. It's the media wankfest that's influenced you to be a wanker. Why do you insist it was the best thing in the world for him to get back on the court and play against LBJ and his own will? This is the problem with your ideology from being a fanatical.

know how to read

it's media that's eagerly trying to vilify Rose and make assinine hero out of Kobe's stupid attempt to comeback early (which ofc failed). What Rose's done may not have been the best course of action(depending on perspective) but at least it was an understandable one. It's hilarious how you always suck Kobe's cock though. It's amazing.

What info do you...you have no info about them...then you're no different from the stupid media that you're ranting about for engaging in the the idiocy of making up assumptions with no basis.

What info do you have...?

What info do you have...?

What info do you have...?

No wonder you were upset from my initial post which had pretty much nothing to do with point you're trying to get across.

None.
It's your stupid comparisons and assumptions that make no sense...

Not upset, just surprised that your aversion to reading is worse than expected that simply put it can't be considered a mental disability but willful stupidity.
You're like an onion where each layer of skin reveals a different level of idiocy or a driver who keeps on driving with only one wheel in the car and a broken steering wheel, that level of utter stupidity.

[NovU]

See how you don't have concrete point again? You started your usual bitching and your conclusion only revolves around your inferiority complex issues with me. Bitch please.

Yeah keep trying to hide your ignorance through massive trolling, but you're exposed. You're worthless almost in any discussion. I told you this, you have no point and have weak and nonsensical support all the time. "OH TEAM DOCS IS 100% RIGHT SO ROSE IS A MORON", fucking idiot, have a nice day.

[SoF'nAwesome]

This thread be hilarious

Some thoughts, if one is calling Rose a moron, then he should call Westbrook and Kobe morons as well. It's the same cycle. No matter what their doctors said, they wouldn't be playing if they felt that it was unsafe. It's their body, not something that will get healed by the media reports. But one could diss Rose more because he made his return too dramatic(don't say media, what about #TheReturn?) and it resulted in horseshit. While Kobe & Westbrook(injury duration, not a FULL SEASON) had a better result. And it played out how they wanted it to for their team. And come on, everybody knows that Mamba mentality. It's the deadliest, and something that Rose and the other players in the NBA(except the best player in the NBA after MJ: King James-/Ibaka) don't have.

And it was harsh of NovU to completely ignore the beautifully organized news articles that grin quoted

Finally, the onion reference is old. Come with something better like "bitch king".

[Andrew]

anyway, what a minger that game was... hope the raptors in sync with the bulls so that this 3rd seed race is still alive...

Agreed, a rather ugly loss after some rather more impressive performances. Hanging tight in the fourth spot in the depleted East, which at least now has six teams at .500 or better.

[shadowgrin]

See how you don't have concrete point again? You started your usual bitching and your conclusion only revolves around your inferiority complex issues with me. Bitch please.

always the first one to mention out of nowhere with no relation to the discussion that he's being persecuted on a personal level looooooool.
Oh woe is NovU. Please share a tear for him to help him cope with his mental anguish.

Yeah keep trying to hide your ignorance through massive trolling, but you're exposed. You're worthless almost in any discussion. I told you this, you have no point and have weak and nonsensical support all the time. "OH TEAM DOCS IS 100% RIGHT SO ROSE IS A MORON", fucking idiot, have a nice day.

I don't know what's more pathetic and sad, your pride in your inability to read or 'hiding your ignorance' through your massive stupidity. So sad.

Even that other Heat fan has better reading comprehension or at least exerts the effort to read and he's supposed to be the 'slower' one compared to NovU.
The brain train has left NovU at the station again like the numerous times it happened and will happen again. So sad indeed.


Time to get out of this rabbit-hole, it's pointless to even ask a person to read anymore because reading is apparently too hard for the brain that it hurts when doing it that the only possible way to deal with it is to cry and start with the self-persecution...

there's no reasoning with you and hopeless to expect some semblance of logic from you because you're just a rabbit-hole of stupidity that goes deeper and deeper.

Apologies to Bulls fans that had to endure this, it's just sad that one of the better threads in the NBA Talk had to be infected by stupidity from people that are allergic to reading and proud of it too. Illiteracy is indeed so sad.

[Moz]

I apologize in behalf of everyone for reporting Derrick Rose's rehab status...

[shadowgrin]

[NovU]

anyway, what a minger that game was... hope the raptors in sync with the bulls so that this 3rd seed race is still alive...

Agreed, a rather ugly loss after some rather more impressive performances. Hanging tight in the fourth spot in the depleted East, which at least now has six teams at .500 or better.

IMO 3rd or 4th won't make much difference. Chances are it's either the NETS or WIZARDS in the first round and HEAT or PACERS in the second.

I am thinking Wizards -> Pacers is bit more friendlier path for the Bulls? Which teams would you guys prefer to face in 1st and 2nd?

[Andrew]

Well yeah, as it stands their chances of going a long way are slim to say the least and it's six of one, half a dozen of the other as far as second round opponents go. I don't really have a preference; I think either way they have a pretty good shot of getting out of the first round, where they'll likely end up taking a game from their second round opponent (at best) before being sent home.

[Moz]

It's alright whether they'll have Wizards or Nets on the first round and I reckon they have a better chance of advancing facing the Pacers over the Heat on the 2nd... I just hope when they got the Pacers they will have the same inconsistency they showed last year against the Knicks...

Another triple double for Noah (2nd in 3 games) and aside that, what else is more inspiring seeing Taj's aggressive and improving post plays (with his reliable 15 footers) and Jimmy's wits and quickness on the passing lane... though they got their ups and downs on the first 3 quarters it's a good forget-that-and-move-on game...

[Andrew]

Noah is getting ridiculous with the assists and triple doubles. Fine performance by Augustin, too.

[NovU]

Kinda poor man's triple double 10-11-11 but with 2 blk and efficiency. This is quite amazing for a more of defensive oriented center anyway.

[Moz]

Being a center and not a post threat, not inviting double teams, and he did most of his assists through backdoor passes what else do you want?

[erudain]

As we were discussing last night at blogs.bulls....how odd this team and season is.....your center is your best passer, your SG is your best rebounder and the top scorers come from the bench....SMH....

[Moz]

As we were discussing last night at blogs.bulls....how odd this team and season is.....your center is your best passer, your SG is your best rebounder and the top scorers come from the bench....SMH....

adding to that is their highest paid active player is benched in the 4th quarter... it's indeed like Galapagos...

[Mandich]

adding to that is their highest paid active player is benched in the 4th quarter... it's indeed like Galapagos...

My thoughts exactly. I really like the passion Noah and a couple of other Bulls players are playing. Bull pride.

Kinda poor man's triple double 10-11-11 but with 2 blk and efficiency. This is quite amazing for a more of defensive oriented center anyway.

How do you have a "poor mans triple-double". A triple-double can't be poor, it's a testimony of a players all-rounded play. And given the fact Noah passes brilliantly that game, making the right decisions play after play on a underrated and overlooked Bulls team.

Being a center and not a post threat, not inviting double teams, and he did most of his assists through backdoor passes what else do you want?

[NovU]

That's why I stated "but" and went onto compliment the kid.

Has anyone heard of poor man's double double? Tristan Thompson earns that title quite often with bare minimum 10-10 double double with no other stats like blk / stl. Simply apply the same logic.

As we were discussing last night at blogs.bulls....how odd this team and season is.....your center is your best passer, your SG is your best rebounder and the top scorers come from the bench....SMH....

Team identity remains pretty much the same from last season though, no offense but defense only.

With healthy Rose playing at high level in 2011 season, the Bulls were top 5 in offense as well (2nd in defense). Rose gone, the offense suffered, from top to bottom literally, but defense sustained. I don't think the Bulls' future is all that bleak unless Rose officially becomes kneeless. Both Noah and Rose are superstar caliber assets that complements each other pretty well (hardest to find). You have 2 compatible superstars, then add one all star & avg starters & 1 splendid 6th man(or impact) that can start on half the teams in league, you have all the standard championship team ingredients.

[Andrew]

As long as everyone can stay healthy, of course.

[Moz]

Beside the fact that the shots are not falling this night for the Bulls, the Grizzlies made a great work neutralizing their frontline... with Miami, San Antonio, Houston, and OKC covering 4 of their 5 games, it's easy to assume that the Raptors will have the 3rd seed for now with their slightly friendlier set of 5 games...

[Andrew]

Yeah, that was a tough one to watch. So many decent looks down the stretch but they were ice cold and couldn't complete a final run. Hey, at least no one got injured!

[Moz]

What a game! As expected the Bulls got their spinach intake doubled for this game... Both DJ and Kirk had great shooting night but this game belongs to Jimmy and Joakim... they did a great job keeping Lebron at bay all night and their overall defensive efforts are superb (same thing can be said for Andersen) ... Taj though got another mediocre game offensively...

[erudain]

shit..this early games on weekend are a lost case for me....I suffer from the crippling desease called "social life".
But I guess is a great start for everyone in Europe or further. So how was the game overall? fun? or was a nailbite for 48mins + ot?