Chicago Bulls Thread

[Andrew]

Another great performance by Noah in his "point centre" role. Looking at franchise history, he's in some good company with those assist numbers and the triple doubles he's racking up.

reports says that Derrick is able to run now so, I reckon, there's still a possibility that he'll comeback this year if the Bulls get deeper into the playoffs...

lol not this again, same story last year.

The Bulls themselves seem to be handling it a little bit better this year, not seemingly keeping the door open like they did last year when they announced that he'd been cleared to play. Personally, I'm going to assume he'll be out until next season as initially expected.

All the same, good to hear that he's progressing well.

[Moz]

Well he did say earlier that he doesn't rule out a possible return on the playoffs... anyway, what a minger that game was... hope the raptors in sync with the bulls so that this 3rd seed race is still alive...

[NovU]

Where are all those people now who were raving how great Kobe and Westbrook are, compared to Derrick Rose, because they came back early from their injury just because they're superior human beings. "OH ITZ KOBE, HE BE BACK BY SEASON START! OH ITZ ONLY TORN ACL, NO PROB FOR WESTBROOK!" Bunch of idiots. Even though Kobe and Westbrook felt fine to come back themselves, they still got shit injured again for being idiots.

Let Rose come back whenever he thinks he's ready. Media and idiots will continue to make up retarded reasons like he's not competitor, he's a coward, silly stuff like that once again this year.

[shadowgrin]

I like how Rose took his sweet time in coming back from his injury last season and yet he still got injured when he returned this season.

[NovU]

That's the thing. Rose's got fragile body and didn't want to push his comeback. But ofc idiots like to continue to rack up their fantasy stories how Rose's a coward and Kobe/Westbrook are heroes. I say Rose's unfortunate but smart, while other two dumb and reckless.

[shadowgrin]

I wouldn't call it smart when you don't follow the doctor's advice to start playing again so the rehabilitation process will speed up and your body gets used to rigorous physical activity much earlier but instead you wait it out and your body overcompensates for it to your other leg and increasing the chances of it getting injured too, like a torn meniscus.

Westbrook's recent injuries isn't even him being a moron. The first complication was a result of the loose stitching when his meniscus healed so it could be the doctor's fault. The second recent injury was a result of the check-up procedures being unable to detect the potential problem in advance, could be doctor's fault, the equipment, or science's fault because science can be a liar, sometimes.

Kobe is just Kobe and also old.

Simply put Rose was still a moron for what he did last year.

[NovU]

Both Kobe and Westbrook beat timetable by miles. Oh docs, you guys are wrong. I'm a super human and I can come back way sooner. Feb/March? Fuck that I'm Kobe, I come back season start, wait... till christmas. Nvm I will just see you next season! Fucking idiot. OH, I come back 2 weeks after season start, look I'm young and awesome, I was supposed to miss 1/4 season at least. NVM, let me come back bit later. Fucking idiot #2.

It's not Rose's fault that he didn't feel comfortable with his own body. OH your team doc said ok, so go play to your death! Errm, no thx?

It's a media wankfest. Why should Rose come back and risk all of sudden just because fans and media want him against LBJ. It's beyond stupidity if you really believe that was a dumb move whilst what Kobe/Westbrook did was smart thing only because team doc cautiously said ok because of their ego and media hype. BTW other docs said it's medically not smart thing to do, even Ken Jung said that despite people's experts Stephen and Skip Bayless were predicting Kobe's heroic early comeback, lol. YEAH! It's Kobe! .....fucking idiots.

[shadowgrin]

When did I say what Kobe and Wetbrook did was smart or idiotic?
I only stated the facts that I know with the injury.

lol I like how your argument for Rose is supposed to be your argument against Kobe and Westbrook...

'Kobe and Westbrook felt fine about their own bodies so they ignored doctors orders and came back early!'

'Rose is not comfortable with his own body so he ignored doctor's orders to come back even though it's fine and a requirement for his body to come back with that physical activity!'

You're blaming Kobe and Westbrook as idiots for assuming that they didn't follow doctor's orders so they came back early while saying that Rose is not an idiot for not following his doctor's orders to play and help his body adjust faster as a requirement for his proper rehabilitation... ...that kind of reasoning is as idiotic as the ignorance about both situations.

iirc Rose wasn't advised to play to his 'death', there was the intent of limiting his minutes if he came back last season.

Last time I checked Rose didn't exactly go to medical school or related health sciences to know about the proper way of rehabilitating injuries even if it is his own body.
Unless he self-diagnosed himself with the use of the internet and concluded he was dying so he took his sweet time until he felt he was cured from death to come back.

[NovU]

What is this bitching all over again?

It's obvious my beef was with this stupid culture where you are supposed to vilify Rose endlessly on stupid assumptions whilst clamouring about Kobe/Westbrook's comparably awesome comebacks when it's really more about stupid media hype and non existent heroic deeds.

It's stupid to be calling Rose a moron for what he did while being entirely ok with what others did. It's fucking idiots with their fucking wankfest. Expect them to be wanking once again in this season's playoffs with Rose. Go figures.

[Moz]

I do agree with NovU here with the Westbrook and Kobe ego thing and I reckon in some ways the Rose saga last year played a role on their decisions... I reckon they would've take it easy if not with the amount of criticism Derrick received with his decision... though you can't blame those people who criticized Derrick since doctors/medical staff are the experts and as usual people believe/rely on what the experts will say..

[shadowgrin]

The info I read about Rose is enough for me to call him a moron. Not following doctor's advice on proper rehabilitation can safely be assumed that the person is a moron.
Unless he's Adrian Peterson, then fuck doctors.

As for Kobe and Westbrook the info I know aren't yet sufficient for me to call them a moron or doing the right thing in the long run.

Deal is your beef with the media/people who display their ignorance about the situation doesn't help when you yourself display the same ignorance that they have about the situation. It's a circle jerk of ignorance even if you are opposed against a particular side/group.

It's like supporting to eradicate AIDS/HIV by supporting to eradicate gay people.

[NovU]

Deal is your beef with me on personal level but that's fine. I take it as illegitimate tax for being a NLSC citizen kinda like IRS to americans.

[shadowgrin]

Yet you wonder why you're treated as moron for always indulging in your imagined self-prosecution that people are out to get you on a personal level instead of realizing that there's only a limited amount of stupidity people can tolerate.

[NovU]

I care not if infamous bitch king considers me a moron. This mysterious mindset that your input's however is very valuable to me is kinda moronic anyway.

Shush now, carry on with your wanking about Rose being a moron.

[shadowgrin]

Yet here you are crying again because you feel persecuted like always.

[NovU]

Thank goodness you see that as crying and caring. In your mind, I'm a caring person. That's good... for a fucking idiot lol

[shadowgrin]

Yet you wonder why you're treated as moron for always indulging in your imagined self-prosecution that people are out to get you on a personal level instead of realizing that there's only a limited amount of stupidity people can tolerate.

[NovU]

Big deal, bitch king's opinion who also calls Rose a moron. What a moron... sigh

[shadowgrin]

[Mandich]

Novu you're taking this comeback stories way too seriously. Kobe is old and doesn't have a lot of time to play so it isn't really that surprising he went on the floor as soon as possible( chasing MJ record so Kobe fans can say he is the greatest ever)

The thing with Rose is he already paused a whole season due to injury, which was supposed to prevent, or just minimize injury chances, and yet ih happened. That's the thing. You never know when you're going to get injured ( just ask Ellis, Oden and Bynum) . Taking all the necessary cautions is great, but there is only so much you can do.

I feel really bad for Rose. Altough incredibly overrated in my opinion, these injuries must have messed up his mentality. Doubt he'll ever be back to his undeserving MVP season form.

[NovU]

Rose was clearly not the best player in his MVP season but we all come to accept that it's not always the best player that must win MVP. Rose was one of the best players in the league at the time and he was on the best team.

Kobe is old and doesn't have a lot of time to play so it isn't really that surprising he went on the floor as soon as possible( chasing MJ record so Kobe fans can say he is the greatest ever)

Problem is that ignorant people like grin still want to label him a hero and Rose a moron for the weirdest reasons in this world. He's exactly one of those idiots who raves how lame Rose is for not coming back early and how great Kobe is for coming back early, following blindly media's foot step. Otherwise this idiot shouldn't have had any problem with my initial comment. But then... he's got this weird obsession with me so he just went on to bitch. This cunt is predictable.

[shadowgrin]

I like how you make up a story about me saying Kobe is great for coming back early when if you only know how to read you'll see none of your imagined crap you're assuming on me about Kobe's return on this thread.
You run out of crap arguments to spew that you resort to making up lies and stories in your desperation not to look like an asshat, that's a new low for you. Here I thought you couldn't get any dumber.

Whether he returns early or not Kobe is already great. FACT!

Rose is a moron for not following doctor's advice on his proper rehabilitation. That simple.
How hard is that to understand? Don't make up lies about me if you're angry about your reading comprehension or your inability to read. There are schools for that for people like you, don't be mad at your mental disability.

Says he doesn't care about what is said about him and yet he's always the first one to mention out of nowhere with no relation to the discussion that he's being persecuted on a personal level looooooool.
Oh woe is NovU. Please share a tear for him to help him cope with his mental anguish.

[NovU]

Bitch confirmed.

So Kobe and Westbrook are even more morons because they didnt follow millions docs advise(aka common sense) and ignored appropriate timetable.

U bitch never have a solid point. I told u. Rose is less at fault here but itz ur kind of wankers and media that want to exploit whatever necessary in purpose of trolling. Bitch.

[shadowgrin]

The only advice Kobe and Westbrook should follow are their own doctors' advise (and maybe a second and third opinion from other doctors) and not the 'millions' of doctors who don't have Kobe or Westbrook as patients or who didn't get to diagnose them personally.
Every injury and rehabilition is different for each patient and without proper and personal diagnosis those 'millions' of doctors opinions are merely that, opinions, and not the treatment required that should strictly be followed because those 'millions' of doctors have no idea of the extent and damage of that particular injury because they are not Kobe and Westbrook's doctors.

What info do you have that Kobe and Westbrook ignored their doctors' advise?
If you have no info about them disobeying doctors orders then you're no different from the stupid media that you're ranting about for engaging in the the idiocy of making up assumptions with no basis.
Unlike Rose where it had been known that his doctors cleared him for play because it was a required part of his full rehabilitation and conditioning of his body, which he didn't do.

Rose not following his doctor's advise to play as a requirement for his complete rehabilitation is not a reasonable point to call him an idiot?
You, who have no info about the advise given by Kobe and Westbrook's doctors and the way you are making up assumptions with no basis against their early return is not a reasonable point to call you an idiot like the media you loathe?

If that's the case then there's no reasoning with you and hopeless to expect some semblance of logic from you because you're just a rabbit-hole of stupidity that goes deeper and deeper.

[NovU]

The only advice Kobe and Westbrook should follow are their own doctors' advise (and maybe a second and third opinion from other doctors) and not the 'millions' of doctors who don't have Kobe or Westbrook as patients or who didn't get to diagnose them personally.
Every injury and rehabilition is different for each patient and without proper and personal diagnosis those 'millions' of doctors opinions are merely that, opinions, and not the treatment required that should strictly be followed because those 'millions' of doctors have no idea of the extent and damage of that particular injury because they are not Kobe and Westbrook's doctors.

This is the proof that you lack common sense (or just a troll). Kobe neither Westbrook weren't 100% enough to come back. Being cleared to play does not mean it's an advise for you to go ahead and play. Don't be confused. Coming back early was obviously moronic decisions as the result depicted. And don't derail off from my point that it's media that's eagerly trying to vilify Rose and make assinine hero out of Kobe's stupid attempt to comeback early (which ofc failed). What Rose's done may not have been the best course of action(depending on perspective) but at least it was an understandable one. It's hilarious how you always suck Kobe's cock though. It's amazing.

Try providing me with evidence that Rose was 100% healthy enough to come back. And how was playing against LBJ in the playoffs all of sudden was the best course for the rehab? You can't. It's just your opinion and wankfest.