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Re: SCOREBOARD- CSN TV v1.2 Released !!! ESPN preview

Postby DW0911 on Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:19 pm

I like TNT 2012 the most, because I can play with every team without replacing logo files...... :D
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Re: SCOREBOARD- CSN TV v1.2 Released !!! ESPN preview

Postby Mario Salame on Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:44 am

PLEASE BRO! Can you please give me the link address to download the new 2013 TNT scoreboard you created!? PLEASE?! I really want to play with that scoreboard!
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Re: SCOREBOARD- CSN TV v1.2 Released !!! ESPN preview

Postby exrxixxx on Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:56 am

Mario Salame wrote:PLEASE BRO! Can you please give me the link address to download the new 2013 TNT scoreboard you created!? PLEASE?! I really want to play with that scoreboard!


you're welcome. It was on the frst post.
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Re: SCOREBOARD- CSN TV v1.2 Released !!! ESPN preview

Postby Mario Salame on Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:27 am

THANK YOU SOOO MUCH BRO!!
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Re: SCOREBOARD- CSN TV v1.2 Released !!! ESPN preview

Postby exrxixxx on Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:28 am

Seems the plans have to be changed. It is very difficult to move bottom texts to desired position. because there are over 150 texts which has no clear names, just text001, text002, etc. so you never know what you want to move.
Even more... moving cooridnates are not so simple. Let's say we want to move Player First name and then Player Second name - moving proportion for the first line is 195 with percentage of 75 , while for second it could be proportion 66 with percentage 21.
Before editing in game it looks like that:

LEBRON
JAMES

If we want to move few inches to the right, we can change decrease/increase percentage let's say for 20 points. But as proportions are different for both lines the final result will be

. ......LEBRON
......................................JAMES

But as I said, the worst thing is there are so many objects without desciption which are very difficult to test as slideout with total rebound can appear only after 40 min of play..., so it will be impossible to put everything precisely in grey part of the scoreboard.
Furthermore - there are no font sizes for these object (or at least I did not find, but I looked everywhere already).


So basicly I will have to lower them down and make more center orientaded.

Therefore there are some room for improving scoreboard's bottom part graphics. We can think how to make it

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Re: SCOREBOARD- CSN TV v1.2 Released !!! ESPN preview

Postby exrxixxx on Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:40 am

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Re: SCOREBOARD- CSN TV v1.2 Released !!! ESPN preview

Postby Rangez on Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:44 am

Looks nice, Cant wait for the finished version! :)
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Re: SCOREBOARD- CSN TV v1.2 Released !!! ESPN preview

Postby daninoz on Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:45 am

So what you are saying is that if you want to make the perfect scoreboard, you have to edit a lot of texts one by one, without knowing what are you editing and without any idea of how to test it?

There is any way that you can move just the box to a center position, and just edit that?
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Postby bigh0rt on Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:48 am

What is the black box in the top right hand corner of the scoreboard?

Also, I think the solution you've some up with for the pop out stats, etc. is the best idea. Just have them align with the scoreboard and call it a day.
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Re: SCOREBOARD- CSN TV v1.2 Released !!! ESPN preview

Postby exrxixxx on Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:52 am

bigh0rt wrote:What is the black box in the top right hand corner of the scoreboard?

Also, I think the solution you've some up with for the pop out stats, etc. is the best idea. Just have them align with the scoreboard and call it a day.


Black box has to turn to red colour sometime later
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Re: SCOREBOARD- CSN TV v1.2 Released !!! ESPN preview

Postby exrxixxx on Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:58 am

daninoz wrote:So what you are saying is that if you want to make the perfect scoreboard, you have to edit a lot of texts one by one, without knowing what are you editing and without any idea of how to test it?

There is any way that you can move just the box to a center position, and just edit that?


Information slideout consists of logo shape, logo area text shape, vertical yellow shape, several layers of background, bacground shape, a picture in the background, texts, etc... and every part has hundred of lines for coordinates, diffusion colours, slideout coordinates and many more information that than be edited form let's say 5F2658FCCAA256625 to A2565FDDDFF33C - that is it. Only when you switch the game you see the result. There are no software to help for this part of scoreboard. And in total there few thousand lines of 16 bytes in each line for this part.

And I am 99,5% sure there is no option to move the whole text with a single coordinate to center.
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Re: SCOREBOARD- CSN TV v1.2 Released !!! ESPN preview

Postby daninoz on Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:46 am

The scoreboard looks great but I don't like that I have to change the logos for just a background color. Anyways, I never liked ESPN scoreboard, I always use TNT scoreboard.
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Re: SCOREBOARD- CSN TV v1.2 Released !!! ESPN preview

Postby exrxixxx on Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:54 am

daninoz wrote:The scoreboard looks great but I don't like that I have to change the logos for just a background color. Anyways, I never liked ESPN scoreboard, I always use TNT scoreboard.


There is no other way to have team colors. NBA2K13 does not have 3d shape for 3d colour. NBA2K12 overlay has this shape, but 2013 roster does not has this option.
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Re: SCOREBOARD- CSN TV v1.2 Released !!! ESPN preview

Postby daninoz on Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:58 am

exrxixxx wrote:
daninoz wrote:The scoreboard looks great but I don't like that I have to change the logos for just a background color. Anyways, I never liked ESPN scoreboard, I always use TNT scoreboard.


There is no other way to have team colors. NBA2K13 does not have 3d shape for 3d colour. NBA2K12 overlay has this shape, but 2013 roster does not has this option.


I know. Thats why I will wait for a TNT scoreboard without the team colors. I know that it's not perfect but at least is something.
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Re: SCOREBOARD- CSN TV v1.2 Released !!! ESPN preview

Postby buddaking on Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:03 am

what up exrxixxx..ok i just tested out your espn scoreboard in a 5 minutes quarter game and honestly i don't see anything wrong with it...in my opinion i think it looks perfect..with the violatioin pop out being on top and the stats/etc infomation being on the bottom...it a brilliant idea for you to come up with that..i suggest not moving or rotating anything else for now..if any other ideas come to your mind later on or so..you can just alway release a version 1.2 to make up for any error you believe you have done in your first release..the only thing i will remove is that doris burke image and the spirte meter image as well..they conflict with the scoreboard due to the popping up while stats are showing..but other than that im happy with the result..
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Re: SCOREBOARD- CSN TV v1.2 Released !!! ESPN preview

Postby exrxixxx on Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:11 am

buddaking wrote:what up exrxixxx..ok i just tested out your espn scoreboard in a 5 minutes quarter game and honestly i don't see anything wrong with it...in my opinion i think it looks perfect..with the violatioin pop out being on top and the stats/etc infomation being on the bottom...it a brilliant idea for you to come up with that..i suggest not moving or rotating anything else for now..if any other ideas come to your mind later on or so..you can just alway release a version 1.2 to make up for any error you believe you have done in your first release..the only thing i will remove is that doris burke image and the spirte meter image as well..they conflict with the scoreboard due to the popping up while stats are showing..but other than that im happy with the result..


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Doris burker face is already removed. Leaving the text "Reporter Dorris Burke" is optional. So far I will center it down.


Dunk intenstity meter - I also think it has to be disabaled as it looks like from other world and this kind of information is quite childish. Maybe later will make visible only a circle with numbers at the corner
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Re: SCOREBOARD- CSN TV v1.2 Released !!! ESPN preview

Postby exrxixxx on Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:13 am

Did you find a scoreboard in the centre of the screen?
For me it first comes left orientated, I have to go to desktop and return back to see normal. But this I experience with all scoreboards of 2013, even with default 2K
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Re: SCOREBOARD- CSN TV v1.2 Released !!! ESPN preview

Postby buddaking on Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:13 am

exrxixxx wrote:
buddaking wrote:what up exrxixxx..ok i just tested out your espn scoreboard in a 5 minutes quarter game and honestly i don't see anything wrong with it...in my opinion i think it looks perfect..with the violatioin pop out being on top and the stats/etc infomation being on the bottom...it a brilliant idea for you to come up with that..i suggest not moving or rotating anything else for now..if any other ideas come to your mind later on or so..you can just alway release a version 1.2 to make up for any error you believe you have done in your first release..the only thing i will remove is that doris burke image and the spirte meter image as well..they conflict with the scoreboard due to the popping up while stats are showing..but other than that im happy with the result..


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Doris burker face is already removed. Leaving the text "Reporter Dorris Burke" is optional. So far I will center it down.


Dunk intenstity meter - I also think it has to be disabaled as it looks like from other world and this kind of information is quite childish. Maybe later will make visible only a circle with numbers at the corner




oh okay..cool bro!..thanks for the information
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Re: SCOREBOARD- CSN TV v1.2 Released !!! ESPN preview

Postby bigh0rt on Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:29 am

exrxixxx wrote:
daninoz wrote:The scoreboard looks great but I don't like that I have to change the logos for just a background color. Anyways, I never liked ESPN scoreboard, I always use TNT scoreboard.


There is no other way to have team colors. NBA2K13 does not have 3d shape for 3d colour. NBA2K12 overlay has this shape, but 2013 roster does not has this option.

any chance you, when all is said and done, can release a version that just doesn't have team colors and has a default gray or red or whatever color?
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Re: SCOREBOARD- CSN TV v1.2 Released !!! ESPN preview

Postby daninoz on Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:43 am

Hey exrxixxx, I just tested the 2013 TNT scoreboard and it looks good. but there are a couple of things that don't convince me.

First, I don't care about background colors if to make it work you have to change the logos. So, for me, black background is great.

Second, is too big. It doesn't look good when a panel shows up. You can see this here:

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(BTW, it says Sideline Sample in the Doris Burke panel).

It would be great if you can change the size to be more close like the 2012 TNT scoreboard. I know that the 2013 one is much bigger, but I always prefer something that looks good in game than something that try to be exactly like the real one. Maybe you can move it a little to the right, so you can give it more size.

I hope it doensn't bothers you. Saludos.
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Re: SCOREBOARD- CSN TV v1.2 Released !!! ESPN preview

Postby bigh0rt on Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:00 pm

The Knicks are on TNT right now. The scoreboard is huge. If anything, the pop outs need to be moved further left out of its way. It definitely doesn't need to be smaller. If anything, actually bigger. It's really really big this year.
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Re: SCOREBOARD- CSN TV v1.2 Released !!! ESPN preview

Postby daninoz on Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:26 pm

bigh0rt wrote:The Knicks are on TNT right now. The scoreboard is huge. If anything, the pop outs need to be moved further left out of its way. It definitely doesn't need to be smaller. If anything, actually bigger. It's really really big this year.


I know is bigger. In game is even smaller that in tv. But again, if it looks almost the same as in TV but when a panel appears it looks bad, then I prefer less size.

The best solution I can think right now is finding a way to move all the panels to the left, so the panel can look like this:

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If you give the hex positions to Leftos, maybe he can make a tool to edit the panel's position with an easy interface and not with just an hex editor.
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Re: SCOREBOARD- CSN TV v1.2 Released !!! ESPN preview

Postby exrxixxx on Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:29 am

daninoz wrote:
bigh0rt wrote:The Knicks are on TNT right now. The scoreboard is huge. If anything, the pop outs need to be moved further left out of its way. It definitely doesn't need to be smaller. If anything, actually bigger. It's really really big this year.


I know is bigger. In game is even smaller that in tv. But again, if it looks almost the same as in TV but when a panel appears it looks bad, then I prefer less size.

The best solution I can think right now is finding a way to move all the panels to the left, so the panel can look like this:

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If you give the hex positions to Leftos, maybe he can make a tool to edit the panel's position with an easy interface and not with just an hex editor.


Sorry, but question is not correct (but I always happy to meet you there and others people too). Speaking about stats slideouts It does not change anything if I give hex coordinates, because there is no information to which coordinate belong an element, and there about 150 of them. The hardest parts is testing what you have moved and where. If you want to move team rebound statistic, you have to wait maybe till the 4th quarter till this slideout will apear.

Continuing... I don't need any tool, it can't help by any means. Even if we would have a tool that for exmpl. would increase the size of text, this would be a poor decision anyway, because there more factors which way you want to choose to increase the size of the font - a standard by just giving bigger value, or maybe increasing it with diffusion collor, or maybe by increasing an inside values of 3d shape, or maybe you just want to skew it sides to makes it wider. Don't forget the font can have capitals and small leters, shades, collors, addition layers on the collors, fonts, orientation to center, left or right, inside space for text how much width it can occupy, how far it can slidout and slide in, etc... etc... And this is only for a sing text like MIA or LAL. And there are hundreds of 3d shapes....
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Re: SCOREBOARD- CSN TV v1.2 Released !!! ESPN preview

Postby exrxixxx on Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:36 am

I have spent a lot of time with stats panel. So far will forget it and release a version with not finished violation panel. After will continue with stats panel

The biggest achievement so far is I had to redraw some 3d structures and I am happy I was able to assigne new color for the newest 3d object's verticles :)))))
It was an object of 420 verticles and exactly 6 of them were responsible for a small part which now serves us for shot clock background.
From yelowish to redish...

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Re: SCOREBOARD- CSN TV v1.2 Released !!! ESPN preview

Postby daninoz on Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:43 am

Do you know what is the hex position for the Sample text in the doris burke panel?
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