Overall Ratings Slowly Getting Revealed! More to come...

...each time @2KSports receives a thousand new followers. Player Ratings will be released on a most asked for basis, 3 at a time.

So, if you're that curious about overall ratings and aren't following 2K Sports on Twitter yet, you can do so now.

We'll make sure to accumulate any revealed ratings in this post.

'00-'01 Allen Iverson: 95 overall
Kevin Durant: 95 overall
Kobe Bryant: 93 overall
Scottie Pippen: 92 overall
Carmelo Anthony: 92 overall
Rajon Rondo: 90 overall
Kevin Love: 89 overall
Andrew Bynum: 87 overall
Blake Griffin: 87 overall
Tyreke Evans: 81 overall
Anthony Davis: 80 overall
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist: 78 overall
Harrison Barnes: 75 overall
Jared Dudley: 75 overall
Thomas Robinson: 75 overall
Chris Paul: 94 overall
Austin Rivers: 67 overall
Amar'e Stoudemire: 84 overall
Steve Nash: 87 overall
Danny Granger: 84 overall
Kenneth Faried: 76 overall
Josh Smith: 87 overall
JaVale McGee: 74 overall
Kemba Walker: 78 overall
Evan Turner: 75 overall
Kendall Marshall: 65 overall
Pau Gasol: 87 overall
Marc Gasol: 83 overall
Serge Ibaka: 81 overall
Eric Gordon: 85 overall
Aaron Brooks: 77 overall
Manu Ginoili: 86 overall
Devin Harris: 77 overall
Ray Allen: 80 overall
Marshon Brooks: 73 overall
Paul Pierce: 83 overall
Caron Butler: 81 overall
Zach Randolph: 84 overall
Lamar Odom: 71 overall
Al Jefferson: 84 overall
Dirk Nowitzki: 85 overall
Luke Walton: 66 overall
Nick Young: 72 overall
Jason Terry: 77 overall
LaMarcus Aldridge: 86 overall
Damian Lillard: 70 overall
Stephen Curry: 83 overall
DeAndre Jordan: 73 overall
Al Jefferson: 84 overall
Kris Humphries: 75 overall

Kobe, Melo and Rondo were revealed today:

Kobe Bryant: 93 overall
Carmelo Anthony: 92 overall
Rajon Rondo: 90 overall

Kevin Durant, Blake Griffin and Harrison Barnes' ratings have all been made known in the past couple of weeks. I've updated the first post with a complete list so far.

Looks good so far except that i'm confused as to how Melo can be as high as a 92 with Kobe being only 93? Also 75 seems high for a rookie like Barnes but it really depends on what their individual attributes are.

Twitter turned on them after they released that Kobe rating, lol. They were saying the signature skills still make him deadly though.

raising bets for a 99avg Lebron again ....

Hmmm... I dont know about kobe. Melos rating is a little too overrated for me, especially since i am a melo fan, i think he should Be around 88 like last year. Maybe theyre basing him off of his olympic performance

Couldn't care less about overall ratings. I never base any of my trade/signing/rotation decisions based on overall ratings. The skills and abilities breakdown, even on non-scouted players, is a much better indication of what a player's strengths and weaknesses are. Would you sign a center because he's a 75 if he's crap at all that matters for a center?

Give me players that play like their real-life counterparts, that have similar strengths and weaknesses, and that have the right signature skills, and I'm all set.

If 2K wanted to do something useful, they could give us the Skills breakdown for each player (Inside, Outside, Athleticism, Basketball I.Q., Rebounding, etc.) Overall is just a gimmick to give people something to fight over until the game is released. And the reactions they've got already are quite revealing.

Couldn't care less about overall ratings. I never base any of my trade/signing/rotation decisions based on overall ratings. The skills and abilities breakdown, even on non-scouted players, is a much better indication of what a player's strengths and weaknesses are.

Second that. It's kinda amusing how after all these years a lot of people still miserably fail to understand that the overall rating alone doesn't tell you much of anything about the player and how good he'll really be to use. A guy with 50 overall can be very useful if, for example, he's a great 3-point shooter and has a quick release (while, very likely, being really cheap if you're playing Association). A guy with 70-75 overall can be mediocre at everything, not really able to do anything well and therefore worse than a 50 overall player. I don't get how the overall can be the only thing someone would care about when it comes to ratings/attributes and post things like:

"WTF 2K HOW COME KOBE ISN'T A 99 OVERALL U GUYS SUCK I'M BUYING LIVE THIS YEAR U KNOW NOTHING ABOUT BASKETBALL"

Seriously, guys. It doesn't hurt to think.

I'm going to guess LeBron is a 97.

Would you sign a center because he's a 75 if he's crap at all that matters for a center?

Well, overall ratings are based on their position. So for a center to be rated 75 overall then he'd HAVE to be good at what matters for a center otherwise he wouldn't be rated that high. I.e. if a PG had the exact same attributes as the proverbial 75 rated center then he'd probably be 58 overall.
But i see your point, and i agree, overall ratings are nothing but a vague reflection of their attributes.

Still, sometimes overall ratings are a pretty accurate reflection, so it's surprising to see Melo at 92 and Kobe at 93.

Nick, even so, overall is just one rating, and tells you almost nothing about the player, other than a vague evaluation. I mean, are you just trying to sign a "good player" at Center? Or are you trying to fill a specific need your team has, like someone good at defending the paint, or at fighting for boards, or someone with a great offensive post game? It's all down to how much thought you put behind things like that. People that just look for good players may care about overall. Me? I sort by the skill category first, check out the Skills and Abilities tab, and then take a look at overall as well.

I wouldn't get as excited or as disappointed as what I'm seeing the overall reaction being (bam!). I don't care what the overall is for one of my favorite players, don't care even if it's lower than another player's. It's how these players play themselves and against each other on court, in the actual gameplay, that matters to me. And then there's new stuff like Signature Skills to think about.

I completely agree that the OVR means little, I believe it's meant just to be a general gauge of talent. For example 90+ are Superstars, 85+ All-Stars and so on. For example Tony Parker and Stephen Curry are roughly the same rating, though depending on your playstyle, one could clearly be dramatically more effective than the other because their strengths and weaknesses are very different. And that's what it always comes down to, user playstyle, always the biggest and often least accounted for variable.

But I do agree, Melo does seem high. Kobe and Melo comparison is difficult due to SG/SF, but even 3 points between Melo and Durant seems a little generous in Melo's favor, considering they're both scoring SF's at heart.

The @NBA2KInsider twitter account posted a summary of the ratings so far, asking which players are rated too high and too low. I guess 2K wants to show they're going to value community involvement more than previous years.

You can reply to the tweet with your opinion on the subject here:
https://twitter.com/NBA2KInsider/status ... 2299561984

First post has also been updated with the newly revealed overall ratings of Scottie Pippen, Kevin Love and rookie Anthony Davis.

EDIT: Monta Ellis, Dion Waiters, & Andre Igoudala coming soon, as @2KSports gets another 1K twitter followers.

3 More players revealed...

Andre Iguodala - 87
Monta Ellis - 86
Dion Waiters - 71

^ They seem about right to me

Nick, even so, overall is just one rating, and tells you almost nothing about the player, other than a vague evaluation.

Don't get me wrong, i agree with this point of view.

Can you imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth if I was in charge and the overall ratings were hidden?

Can you imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth if I was in charge and the overall ratings were hidden?

Yes but then what variable ranking would you use to summarize each players' overall ability?

Brandon Roy had a 78 rating as default in 2K12 a couple week ago. When I changed his primary position to PG in order to play CAL mode with him his overall rating went down to 72 or 74. So there.

Allen Iverson, Jarey Dudley, and rookie Thomas Robinson coming shortly.

I'm guessing 74 for Duds.

Added AI, Duds and rookie T. Robinson to first post.

They're very generous with their rookie ratings. Thomas Robinson and Harrison Barnes are gonna end up being superstars a few years into 2k13's Association mode, probably. (Which aint gonna happen in the NBA!)
I can't wait to go through the rookie players' individual ratings in 2k13 and compare them to my 2k12 draft class.

Nice of them to overrate Iverson just like they used to on the Dreamcast.

Pre-order cancelled.

The overall ratings are meaningless for this reason and this reason only: You can adjust them any way you like.
Please raise a ruckus for something that matters, like give us the F NBA 2K11's Blacktop Mode already!

I was wondering here, why is it so important for most of you to know the ratings before the game comes out?

To most of them, just to bitch and moan.

But then comes 2K with its NBA 2K Insider asking the users' opinion on the revealed ratings, which, supposedly, could be early feedback for a zero-day roster update.

But is "how is that player's overall rating?" a valid question? If users say it's too low, what would you increase? Makes more sense to complain about specific parts of a player's game that aren't realistic, rather than say "OHMIGOSH THAT PLAYER IS OVERRATED EVEN THOUGH I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THAT APPLIES TO THIS YEAR'S GAME".